TLS - Telstra Corporation

[MrBurns]

With the likelihood of rates falling further it may keep rising.

And it has

up another 3% today.

 

[HarryH]

I don't pay tax at present, get a nice refund though

LOL you only earn only about $16,000? (ie $6000 + low income offset) each year? I'm sure you would have made 50k buddy .

 

[MrBurns]

LOL you only earn only about $16,000? (ie $6000 + low income offset). I'm sure you would have made 50k buddy .

I'm sure there's plenty of reasons why tax is minimised, I leave it to the accountants.

 

[Julia]

LOL you only earn only about $16,000? (ie $6000 + low income offset) each year? I'm sure you would have made 50k buddy .

Mr Burns might be in pension phase of his Super in which case no tax is paid.
Maybe consider various circumstances before you dismiss the accuracy of what someone says.

 

[MrBurns]

Mr Burns might be in pension phase of his Super in which case no tax is paid.
Maybe consider various circumstances before you dismiss the accuracy of what someone says.

Not actually in pension mode Julia but I am running a business which has been making losses for a while as it builds.

 

[Julia]

Not actually in pension mode Julia but I am running a business which has been making losses for a while as it builds.

I wasn't actually suggesting you were. Just making the point that there can be various circumstances in which no tax is payable.
Good luck with the business.

 

[McLovin]

Not actually in pension mode Julia but I am running a business which has been making losses for a while as it builds.

How will the carbon tax affect your power plant?

 

[MrBurns]

I wasn't actually suggesting you were. Just making the point that there can be various circumstances in which no tax is payable.
Good luck with the business.

Thanks Julia, actually I've got no real idea how he does things but I seem to get enough back to pay his ridiculous bill each year .......co incidentally

How will the carbon tax affect your power plant?

It's involved with the ACTU and they've given me a credit card to take care of that problem

 

[Frank D]

TLS Monthly & Weekly Cycles


After reaching my Primary target of 3.58, but following the Break and Extend
pattern from the April highs into the MAY highs....

TLS will be at a critcal level next week, as the Weekly lows @ 3.47 have
the potential to form support (next 5-days) until the start of the following
month (June).

That's when the next support patterns come in, which could push TLS back
towards the highs.

However, anything below 3.47, and the trend bias is down into the 3-month lows
after reaching the Yearly highs @ 3.58, which is something to be aware of
as previously mentioned.

 

[Boggo]

A follow up to my previous posts here -
https://www.aussiestockforums.com/f...t=4270&page=59&p=692578&viewfull=1#post692578
and and comment below from here -
https://www.aussiestockforums.com/f...t=4270&page=63&p=701885&viewfull=1#post701885

Typical Wave 5 is in the range 3.68 to 3.76. Both TS4's (ABC corrections) have been spot on.
It has played by the rules nicely so far, a nice correction would provide an opportunity to overlap another run up when it does run out of steam.

Sometimes they do play by the rules and that is when you need to be there (with an exit plan just in case). Where to from here is the next question, it will get my attention if (when) it breaks out again.

 

[starman45]

Tls: beautiful climb. Now the stock is in the area of strong resistance 3.6. This is an area of ​​target. I think you have to wait for their first wins to go long, or wait for a retracement, but is more risky because it could turn into a good opportunity for sellers.
Good weekend to all!

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The retracement was a good opportunity to get long, but after more than a month, we are still in the same area. 3,6 is a strong resistance.

 

[Bintang]

The retracement was a good opportunity to get long, but after more than a month, we are still in the same area. 3,6 is a strong resistance.

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I don't think $3.60 is 'resistance' longer term. TLS has a long way to go upwards yet.
Consider this: "Why would anyone buy shares in Singapore Telecoms at around $2.35, which gives an unfranked dividend yield of around 5.2% instead of buying shares in Telstra for around $3.60, which gives a fully franked dividend yield of 7.8%. Obviously someone does. But then again in the last 12 month period to date TLS is up 20%and SGT only up 5%."
I will confess to having a large position in TLS which I acquired in the price range $2.55 to $3.10 thanks to the financial geniuses at the Future Fund. Oh how I wish the Future Fund was still offloading TLS shares so I could continue to buy them ultra cheap. I have read lots of criticism about the TLS dividend not growing but some simple net present value calculations will show that even at $3.60 per share TLS is a good deal if it generates a constant dividend of 28 c/share. Even if I thought the dividend would drop to 21c per share I would still buy TLS at $3.60 in prefernence to many other alternatives, eg SGT or term deposits or an investment property etc.

 

[MrBurns]

As things get worse people are fleeing to the safety of TLS, by not buying in when I should have I have lost the equivalent of a very nice Mercedes, I just shouldn't look at the stock any more.

 

[ROE]

history is on your side if you buy stock that has reasonable cash flow that got beaten down so bad that people either hate or outright pissed off about it plus compounding of bad news this is where it trades at its lowest level.

I buy such stocks always

 

[MrBurns]

About a month ago I guess I saw the guaranteed return was excellent and interest rates were about to go down again, it looked too good to be true, I didn't trust my own judgment and paid the price, but it's all on the merry go round after all.

 

[Bintang]

About a month ago I guess I saw the guaranteed return was excellent and interest rates were about to go down again, it looked too good to be true, I didn't trust my own judgment and paid the price, but it's all on the merry go round after all.

MrBurns at today's closing price of 3.86 TLS is still a good buy. Its fully frank yield (7.25%) is still better than the major banks. And if you buy now you will get 14 cents per share dividend paid into your bank account around 22 September. Let's see (0.14/3.86)*12/2.5= 17.l4%. Gee, that's like have money in the bank at 17.4% annualised interest for the next 2.5 months, except its better than that because bank interest will get gouged by the taxman

 

[MrBurns]

MrBurns at today's closing price of 3.86 TLS is still a good buy. Its fully frank yield (7.25%) is still better than the major banks. And if you buy now you will get 14 cents per share dividend paid into your bank account around 22 September. Let's see (0.14/3.86)*12/2.5= 17.l4%. Gee, that's like have money in the bank at 17.4% annualised interest for the next 2.5 months, except its better than that because bank interest will get gouged by the taxman

Thanks Bintang, I'm feeling bullish all of a sudden.

 

[Bintang]

MrBurns at today's closing price of 3.86 TLS is still a good buy. Its fully frank yield (7.25%) is still better than the major banks. And if you buy now you will get 14 cents per share dividend paid into your bank account around 22 September. Let's see (0.14/3.86)*12/2.5= 17.l4%. Gee, that's like have money in the bank at 17.4% annualised interest for the next 2.5 months, except its better than that because bank interest will get gouged by the taxman

And when the future fund was selling down TLS at prices under $3.00 the above type of calculation was even more compelling. I have to hand it to those guys at the Future Fund. Pure genius of them to sell down the Future Fund's telstra shares. Did me a huge favour and also everyone else who bought when they were selling. Would be intersting to know how many of the Future Funds TLS shares went to overseas buyers. I think Australia got fleeced on this one. But for me personally a big thank you to the Future Fund.

 

[MrBurns]

At some stage when alll the good news dries up and the return guarantee is close to finishing people will start to get out, how long away is that ?

 

[sammy84]

MrBurns at today's closing price of 3.86 TLS is still a good buy. Its fully frank yield (7.25%) is still better than the major banks. And if you buy now you will get 14 cents per share dividend paid into your bank account around 22 September. Let's see (0.14/3.86)*12/2.5= 17.l4%. Gee, that's like have money in the bank at 17.4% annualised interest for the next 2.5 months, except its better than that because bank interest will get gouged by the taxman

You haven't factored any ex-div top in your calculation. Will drop at least 10c on ex-div date.