TLS - Telstra Corporation

[wavepicker]

Hi Kennas,
Tls...one of my few loooong-term pattern trades... trading a potential cup on the weekly... unfortunately can still fall a long ways and remain valid ..
Cheers
Kauri

Hello Kauri, hows things?

Great chart, I actually have been looking at the daily chart of this the last few weeks, the struggling move up in that timeframe appears to be and EW Ending Diagonal (ED). Moves away from such patterns(in this case it would be down) can be quite abrupt. These are terminal patterns of a particular "degree" of trend. Whether it is the larger trend in this case remains to be seen, but this was easily spotted from weaks ago

Cheers

 

[ROE]

Why let an American Comedian Amigos treat Australian Workers and Australian company this way???? Share holders vote him out.

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,21929990-2,00.html

 

[YELNATS]

Disappointing results today from a disappointing company.

When will the Mexi-Yankees start to perform or leave? They're on a high enough and increasing stipends aren't they?

Isn't it time they stopped blaming the regulatory landscape in this country and started to perform to the max within it's accepted boundaries and restrictions?

"Hello guys, Hello, ..... wake up, this isn't the USA.

Surely your honeymoon period is over and you need to perform quick smart or quit."

I can't remember the last time this company pleasantly surprised the market.

I'm Peeved. YN

 

[UMike]

Disappointing results today from a disappointing company.

When will the Mexi-Yankees start to perform or leave? They're on a high enough and increasing stipends aren't they?

Isn't it time they stopped blaming the regulatory landscape in this country and started to perform to the max within it's accepted boundaries and restrictions?

"Hello guys, Hello, ..... wake up, this isn't the USA.

Surely your honeymoon period is over and you need to perform quick smart or quit."

I can't remember the last time this company pleasantly surprised the market.

I'm Peeved. YN

I'm more than peeved.
These Mexi - Yankees have no idea about how to deal in Australian environments.

I wouldn't recommend these guys to run my Mother in laws company.

 

[Ken]

TLS to go under 4.00 as it goes EX dividend on Monday.

If you're looking for yield stocks, TLS is as good as any.

 

[ROE]

TLS to go under 4.00 as it goes EX dividend on Monday.

If you're looking for yield stocks, TLS is as good as any.

TLS ex-dividend yesterday or this Coming Friday?
Comsec said Friday and news.com.au reported yesterday ?????

I think news got it wrong.

not touching TLS until it trades below $4 that how much I think it's worth.

 

[ROE]

Disappointing results today from a disappointing company.

When will the Mexi-Yankees start to perform or leave? They're on a high enough and increasing stipends aren't they?

Isn't it time they stopped blaming the regulatory landscape in this country and started to perform to the max within it's accepted boundaries and restrictions?

"Hello guys, Hello, ..... wake up, this isn't the USA.

Surely your honeymoon period is over and you need to perform quick smart or quit."

I can't remember the last time this company pleasantly surprised the market.

I'm Peeved. YN

I never seen a company waste so much time fighting the government instead of putting effort in running the company and run it well.

this to show these guys cant manage but love raging war and in war no one wins.

 

[Awesomandy]

TLS ex-dividend yesterday or this Coming Friday?
Comsec said Friday and news.com.au reported yesterday ?????

I think news got it wrong.

TLS ex-date is (was) 20 Aug. If you are desperate for the dividend, buy it on the New Zealand exchange, where the ex-date is 27 Aug.

 

[Sprinter79]

Suffer in your jocks!!! My next G phone even cuts out in my office in West Perth.

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=59377

ACCC forces Telstra Next G ad changes
Friday Aug 24 13:08 AEST
Telstra has changed a series of television advertisements promoting its Next G mobile telephone network after the consumer watchdog raised concerns that they could be misleading.

Australian Competition and Consumer Commission (ACCC) chairman Graeme Samuel said Telstra had agreed to remove the taglines "Everywhere you need it" and "Get the coverage you need" from the ads.

"The ACCC had particular concerns about Telstra's unqualified use of the taglines 'Everywhere you need it' and 'Get the coverage you need' with Telstra's Next G network, when the whole of Australia is not covered and coverage is not always available where consumers need it," Mr Samuel said in a statement.

The ACCC was also concerned the ads conveyed the impression that call interference and drop-outs would not occur on the Next G network, which was set up to replace the old CDMA network in the bush.

"All traders must ensure that claims about the performance and quality of goods and services can be substantiated," Mr Samuel said.

 

[ROE]

Next G is a shocker compared to 3. I dump next G and went with 3.
there are going to be a lot of disappointed next G customers in the next few years, you can see that in 3 rise in subscription.

I got 3 phones and 3 Broadband plan, NICE!

$29.95 for 3 Broadband plan 1G limit is awesome...more quota than I need
to play with stock in a month anywhere that has 3 coverage.

 

[vishalt]

I don't understand this company..

it makes money.

But its declined for years, its crazy, what the hell is it gonna make it go into an uptrend?

Anyway but I think it seems like a good daytrading stock as it lacks intraday volatility. Will buy if it breaks $4.45, or supports at $4.15 - with 18c stops.

 

[ROE]

I don't understand this company..

it makes money.

But its declined for years, its crazy, what the hell is it gonna make it go into an uptrend?

Anyway but I think it seems like a good daytrading stock as it lacks intraday volatility. Will buy if it breaks $4.45, or supports at $4.15 - with 18c stops.

Good company with good assets and good cash flow it just really badly manage and do stupid things which can be corrected , with an overhaul of the whole board and senior management..It has huge monopoly advantage on its side but don't know how to use it to their advantage instead of waging war with the government.

 

[Sprinter79]

The bosses are complete tools and have absolutely no subtlety about them. They have no repore (sp) with the common Australian, who see them as arrogant Americans who have come over here to tell them how to do things.

 

[Rainmaker2000]

I get a giggle reading all these posts about Tls....you guys are all day traders and dividend strippers......you wonder when the line will trend upwards and you want to analyse the personalities of these crazy US imports.....has anyone of you actually had a look at Tls fundamentals, business model or even its earnings.....would it be too simple to suggest that the price will trend up when Tls increases its earnings and vice versa....well derr, you want to know how and when......heres a hint, all parts of the tls business except for one very lucrative part is growing earnings impressively.....would it be fair to say that once they stem the bleeding in this one area, the growth from the other areas will flow straight to the bottom line...when will this happen....you guys like graphs, have a look at the graph in their presentation...its as plain as an azure sky...for the record Tls is a massive buy and Macquarie bank would bid twise its current price to financially engineer it, gear it up, break it up and sell it to ignorant retirees

 

[reece55]

I don't understand this company..

it makes money.

But its declined for years, its crazy, what the hell is it gonna make it go into an uptrend?

Anyway but I think it seems like a good daytrading stock as it lacks intraday volatility. Will buy if it breaks $4.45, or supports at $4.15 - with 18c stops.

Vishalt
The answer is simple - whilst it's a cash flow machine, it is expensive valuation wise and won't grow profits for years to come. So, at present, from a valuation perspective, you are probably loosing money each year you invest in Telstra until it starts to find new ways to make $$ in a declining fixed line market, once you factor in the yeild et.

I still don't understand why they don't split Telstra up - one entity would be the infrastructure paying investors a yield based return and the balance the wholesale business and Sensis, etc. Watch the EV appreciation if that were to occur.

Bloody Ziggy and his tech investments in the dot com boom!!!!

Cheers

 

[Bluebeard]

I dont like the way TLS is being managed either, not in terms of attacking government regulation, but clearly the shareholders could get bigger returns if Telstra itself does to itself what private equity would do to it if and when they decide to have a go at Telstra.

 

[Rainmaker2000]

Its tough to say Telstra has a stretched valuation, especially in this market..maybe if you only looked at PE..in this market you have no asset businesses like fund managers and retailors selling at PE20.....Tls has hard assets and its infrastructure quality recurring cashflow...it also has some compelling consumer franchises like foxtel and Sensis which are only starting their growth really...throw in the possibility of fibre to node and you can see why the instalment receipt is still a valued commodity....I'm just amazed that everybody hates this management so much that they totally don't believe their 2010 targets.....Shareholders seemed to like Ziggy a lot more with his penchant to just waste shareholder funds and give in to the government....the Telstra business is actually performing exceptionally well if you believe the reported stats, especially compared to other fixed line dependent telcos....I must confess I believe in the assets and just the franking credits alone are putting my kid through college

 

[gregcourageous]

Time for a bounce??? What do you think? Still heading below $4????
This chart seems to point to a bounce

 

[vishalt]

Can I ask why you guys trade in Telstra?

Just curious as I think there are so many more/better/solid/liquid stocks out there than this permanent downtrend scum lol.

 

[juw177]

Potential break out here. It has broken out of horizontal range by smashing $4.45 let's see if it holds.