The West has lost its freedom of speech

[qldfrog]

The question was rhetorical quacker, to illustrate a point... A bit subtle for you I guess.

Not the right answer wayneL, you clearly went over the line here in my opinion

 

[Tink]

Good on these politicians that have come forward and rocked the boat.

Freedom of speech sometimes means people will be offended.
The right not to be offended should never trump the right to express your views

Freedom of speech is an important social good.

Well done, we need more brave politicians to speak out on important matters like this.

 

[cynic]

Not the right answer wayneL, you clearly went over the line here in my opinion

In my opinion, the main error was a misjudgment of the ability and/or willingness of the target audience to recognise the hypothetical context and intent of the post.

 

[wayneL]

In my opinion, the main error was a misjudgment of the ability and/or willingness of the target audience to recognise the hypothetical context and intent of the post.

You are exactly correct.

IMO The Chasers were out of order and I used two hypothetical statements to illustrate the difference between the Senator's statement and the Chasers.

They tried to use irony, but the logic was fallacious.

I apologise for assuming such abilities/willingness.

 

[wayneL]

Incidently, bas outright called me stupid the other day. Interesting the luvvies didn't call him out on that.

Also interesting that it was (correctly) assumed that I didn't need Komrades to leap to my defense.

 

[Value Collector]

Freedom of speech sometimes means people will be offended.
The right not to be offended should never trump the right to express your views

.

Hahaha, this coming from the member of an organisation that wants laws against blasphemy, Laws that are designed to protect their all powerful imaginary friend from words that might hurt his feelings, and an organisation that has probably banned more books and films than any other in history, oh the hypocrisy is strong in this one, lol.

 

[Tink]

You mean the organisation that set up Western Civilization, and what you enjoy today.
Our biblical worldview.

The Western Culture that you are trying to destroy?

You have no idea about Christianity and its history.

 

[luutzu]

Incidently, bas outright called me stupid the other day. Interesting the luvvies didn't call him out on that.

Also interesting that it was (correctly) assumed that I didn't need Komrades to leap to my defense.

Awww... did that big bad lefty commie tree hugger hurt your feelings Sifu?

There there, no body is stupid. They just say stupid things sometimes, and some time too frequently

 

[Value Collector]

You mean the organisation that set up Western Civilization,
.

No, I am talking about the catholic church, you know the one that used to behead, burn or shoot people that spoke out against it, the one you are still a member of, the one that thinks blasphemy should be a crime.

You have no idea about Christianity and its history

I know that although you claim the right of freedom of speech, you want to put your religious concepts in a special box protected from the words of others, you want to be able to say what you like when you like, but hate that people might tell you that you are speaking rubbish, you hate the idea that other groups are finally getting on an equal footing and claim that when they have an equal say, it some how reduces your rights.

 

[luutzu]

You mean the organisation that set up Western Civilization, and what you enjoy today.
Our biblical worldview.

The Western Culture that you are trying to destroy?

You have no idea about Christianity and its history.

Round 5000.

Fight!

 

[wayneL]

Awww... did that big bad lefty commie tree hugger hurt your feelings Sifu?

There there, no body is stupid. They just say stupid things sometimes, and some time too frequently

You didn't read my post, Grasshopper, did you?

This is possibly the reason that in general, your logic becomes so tortured. In English, my fallacious friend, words are used and ordered to convey precise meanings.

It appears that once again, I have overestimated the abilities or willingness of at least some of my audience to comprehend that.

Tsk, standards are indeed slipping.

 

[basilio]

You didn't read my post, Grasshopper, did you?

This is possibly the reason that in general, your logic becomes so tortured. In English, my fallacious friend, words are used and ordered to convey precise meanings.

It appears that once again, I have overestimated the abilities or willingness of at least some of my audience to comprehend that.

Tsk, standards are indeed slipping.

Indeed it isn't really hard to work out what you are saying Wayne is it ?

Always... crystal clear. We understand you perfectly..

 

[ghotib]

You didn't read my post, Grasshopper, did you?

This is possibly the reason that in general, your logic becomes so tortured. In English, my fallacious friend, words are used and ordered to convey precise meanings.

Yeah, like Donald Trump. Frankly Wayne, over the years your logic has become as bogus as a Liberal right winger's understanding of 21st century civilisation.

 

[wayneL]

Yeah, like Donald Trump. Frankly Wayne, over the years your logic has become as bogus as a Liberal right winger's understanding of 21st century civilisation.

It seems only those on the left have trouble with my logic. Because of the agenda perhaps.

I mean ghotib, you do see an intrinsic difference between those two statements, don't you? Surely.

Or do you just want to join the cacophony of the perpetually offended?

 

[wayneL]

Indeed it isn't really hard to work out what you are saying Wayne is it ?

Always... crystal clear. We understand you perfectly..

You tell me what you think Im saying bas.

Cynic got it, but you of the howling Orwellian left seem to be having a little trouble.

 

[Tisme]

Round 5000.

Fight!

LOL


https://www.myinstants.com/instant/round-one-fight/

 

[basilio]

You tell me what you think Im saying bas.

Cynic got it, but you of the howling Orwellian left seem to be having a little trouble.

I said everything that needs to be said Wayne.

You are totally understood on this forum.

 

[qldfrog]

You tell me what you think Im saying bas.

Cynic got it, but you of the howling Orwellian left seem to be having a little trouble.

As I found your entry out of wack, not to say immature, if only in term of well behaved standard, I so seem to be dumped into the "Orwellian left " which believe me is offending in itself for someone like me.
Julia would be crying...
I hope the Orwellian right can do better

 

[wayneL]

As I found your entry out of wack, not to say immature, if only in term of well behaved standard, I so seem to be dumped into the "Orwellian left " which believe me is offending in itself for someone like me.
Julia would be crying...
I hope the Orwellian right can do better

Okay let's analyse this Mr Frog.

Bas posted this, along with the Chasers video

Ah what a very, very special person we have in the Honourable Senator Leyonhielm. I wonder how he might take some pretty pointed very funny comments about his good self? Like to see
Check it out. Edgiest 3 minutes you'll in a long time.

So Bas was concurrently reviling the slogans (which I agree are in poor taste), but condoning the escalation of those slogans into personal insults on Leyonhielm. I saw a hypocrisy in that and posted this:

Consider the difference netween these two statements:

1/-Climate fantastists are loons

2/ basilio is a loon.

Notice anything?

Though topical, note I did not endorse those statements, put up as hypothetical examples, using basilios name to make the point particularly to him, as it was his post.

I was not directly insulting basilio at all.

I also highlighted basilios propensity for direct insult.

Now there is nothing immature or out of line in what I said, but as is the custom of the Komrades, you must feign extreme outrage to deflect a point which I must say is well made.. Note that none of you have addressed the actual point, just employed the epidemic of becoming offended by trifles.

So a serious question Mr Frog, dont you think it is actually you that is being puerile?

And how can you feign offense a at being lumped in with the Orwellian cultural vandals, when you are so ready to employ their sociopathic MO?

 

[basilio]

Are you for real Wayne ? Do you actually believe what you are saying ?

Truly mate stick to accusing Hilary Clinton of being a Stalinist totalitarian and Hannibal Lector a better choice than her as Prez. They have to make more sense and have more integrity than that convoluted nonsense.