When I read this post bellenuit, I thought that perhaps you were underestimating the capacity of those with opposing views, for engaging in fallacious reasoning and argument.
Why is Ricky grinning from ear to ear?
I reckon it is because he knows his analogy won't quite fit:
You can choose your religion, even if your parents have given you a particular one in your genes. Once old enough, and especially with the benefit of a Western-style education, you should be able to step from Stone Age beliefs into the Here and Now. But no matter how well educated you are, you'll find it impossible to beat cancer with rational thought.
That doesn't mean the "hatred" argument isn't valid: Hating a person for an affliction visited upon them is stupid, especially if they caught it involuntarily. Feeling pity for the innocent victim would be more appropriate.
On the positive side though, Ricky's pointed comment that "even the dumbest should understand" can be appreciated as a kind of humorous caricature, not unlike a Charlie Hebdo cartoon.
No one is "suggesting" you did anything. It's been clearly stated, written down, in this forum by you and company.
How do you call it reasoning when you said Muslims and Islam is this and that, all of them... and somehow not all, not even most, of them do what you say they'll do. And yet you still believe it.
Anyway...
You are obviously trying to tell me something...but I haven't got a clue what it is.:dunno: While you persist in fallacious reasoning, your posts will continue to be nonsense.
Yes, a monumental difference that so many fail to see or don't want to see. Ricky Gervais puts it in terms even the dumbest should understand.......
View attachment 61197
You are obviously trying to tell me something...but I haven't got a clue what it is.:dunno: While you persist in fallacious reasoning, your posts will continue to be nonsense.
Maybe if I agree with you, then mine and your nonsense will become sensible.
Earlier today, I exposed as circular reasoning the "proof" for God's existence or the Qur'an being Allah's word. Your and Calli's redefinition of Muslim appears to me as following a similar fallacy. The essence of what you're saying is "All Muslims are bad radicals; anyone who has been brought up a Muslim and is not bad and radical, can no longer be called a Muslim. Therefore, all Muslims are bad radicals. q.e.d."
It is a common feature of posters whose arguments are going up a blind alley to ascribe this sort of twisted inference to the statements of those who do not agree with them.
None of the above nonsense bears any relationship to anything I have said...and you know it. It is a deliberate distortion.
Where is the distortion?
Pixel nailed your position on “muslims” to a T, and you don't like it?
Where is the distortion?
Pixel nailed your position on “muslims” to a T, and you don't like it?
With selective reading of the posts on this subject I can see how this conclusion might be reached. But just because you and pixel think it is circular reasoning that does not make it so. It is a matter of mutually exclusive terms under Islamic doctrine.
As I said Mac; "It is a common feature of posters whose arguments are going up a blind alley to ascribe this sort of twisted inference to the statements of those who do not agree with them".
You are the worst offender. However keep it coming, you are my biggest fan, and you give me plenty of laughs.
Where is the "selective reading"?
You said "It is simply that muslim and moderate muslim are mutually exclusive and it is the Qu'uran that has made it this way.
Therefore, you are concluding that a true muslim can not be a moderate, therefore all muslims are radicals.
Saw this...
Agree or disagree??
The end of the South Park episode 201 was censored. Here it is! It's message is all the more relevant today - [0:52] (youtube.com)
Just saw this on Reddit. I don't watch SouthPark, but this is so true at the moment!
Especially the last statement, "The only true power is violence" and in the West we try to fight it with the power of political correctness and the gradual suppression of our freedom of speech". What a bunch of dummies we are.
You do know that our troops are fighting ISIS in Syria don't you ?
We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:
Do you accept cookies and these technologies?
We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:
Do you accept cookies and these technologies?