Hey GG
That's the Brisbane named after Thomas Brisbane, the one time Governor of New South Wales.
Long may Queenslands Capital live under the name of a New South Wales Governor.
It's like Waterloo; but in reverse.
Hey GGPssst.
Hey.
You fellas come closer.
Albo set up the Referendum on The Voice to fail.
The year 2023 has headlines so guaranteed to convince most Queenslanders to vote NO that a high charging Advertising outfit would be hard put to compete.
Tonight at Mackay airport, a city which rarely returns a win for the ALP federally.
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It’s not Mundines quote actually has nothing to do with him.
It’s a very well known book…sigh
I don't know I think the answer will be different for all here is a link from a Mundine for an insight to some thinking not saying its for all
It’s not Mundines quote actually has nothing to do with him.
It’s a very well known book…sigh
Yes. Xavier Herbert wrote well. An absorbing work at a number of levels. Have re-read a few times. I had a look at the edition I have. Bought it in 1979. It was first published in 1975 not 1977. Won the Miles Franklin Literary award in 1976.
That's another false statement from you!
There was a requirement to consult and this was given short shrift by the government of the day.
If you had read anything and understood it you would stop making rubbish comments about the Voice.
Not as frightening as wilful ignorance displayed in this thread.
I thought it was a flight to China.Hey GG
That's the Brisbane named after Thomas Brisbane, the one time Governor of New South Wales.
Long may Queenslands Capital live under the name of a New South Wales Governor.
It's like Waterloo; but in reverse.
Albo can't take all the credit, he's just not that smart, but he, along with all the other bad faith actors have probably destroyed any chances of true reconciliation for generations.I still cant see the logics behind a recognition in the constitution and that is probably the root cause for the trepidation.
There is a Federal minister and ministry for aboriginal affairs, there is a State minister for aboriginal affairs, they have been well funded and now we are saying the aboriginals have not got a voice.
Yet there are daily examples of them actually having a very effective voice, with land rights, with banning the climbing of Uluru, with the outrage against Rio for mining above a cave (Juukan Gorge).
So to say they don't have a voice doesn't quite resonate, but it is causing a lot of diversion, from some very serious economic issues.
It will be interesting to see how it pans out, it may well be master stroke or a massive stuff up, time will tell.
I certainly hope Albo has played it well, or he has put the Aboriginal plight back a long way IMO.
The last thing Albo isn't is smart, he hasn't survived this long in politics, with no charisma and a speech impediment and risen to PM if he wasn't smart.Albo can't take all the credit, he's just not that smart, but he, along with all the other bad faith actors have probably destroyed any chances of true reconciliation for generations.
Whether Australia is stupid enough to vote yes or not, we will be more divided than ever for decades.
Job well done, Labor.
Rat cunning <> intelligence.The last thing Albo isn't is smart, he hasn't survived this long in politics, with no charisma and a speech impediment and risen to PM if he wasn't smart.
Trust me Albo is smart, just has way too many things happening at the same time and not many are making sense.
Unless some start and make sense the voters will revolt badly, the cheaper power is starting to look like an after pay app, where the power price goes up and the Government uses your tax to give it back to you, so you can pay your power bill.
We have taxpayers paying paying coal miners to dig up coal and sell it to overseas owned coal generators, so that we keep them going, because the renewable revolution isn't happening.
It is all becoming a big juicy brain fart, it wont smell nice in the end.
Someone in Government needs to just stop flying around like a fart in a bottle and just settle down and take one issue at a time IMO.
No one will be able to throw the advisory panel out, we've already seen the outcome of the likes of Deloitte and PWC advising governments.I still cant see the logics behind a recognition in the constitution and that is probably the root cause for the trepidation.
Recognition is not a matter of logic. It's a matter of respect. No other nation has a culture that is as long lived.I still cant see the logics behind a recognition in the constitution and that is probably the root cause for the trepidation.
It has been well explained that systemic structural disadvantage has continued to thrive under existing arrangements.There is a Federal minister and ministry for aboriginal affairs, there is a State minister for aboriginal affairs, they have been well funded and now we are saying the aboriginals have not got a voice.
Yet there are daily examples of them actually having a very effective voice, with land rights, with banning the climbing of Uluru, with the outrage against Rio for mining above a cave (Juukan Gorge).
It might not resonate with you, a white male, but it does with a majority of indigenous people who saw it as a possible way to improve on what we have now.So to say they don't have a voice doesn't quite resonate, but it is causing a lot of diversion, from some very serious economic issues.
That makes no sense.I certainly hope Albo has played it well, or he has put the Aboriginal plight back a long way IMO.
The Voice is an element of "recognition" of first nations peoples.No one will be able to throw the advisory panel out, we've already seen the outcome of the likes of Deloitte and PWC advising governments.
Yes. Xavier Herbert wrote well. An absorbing work at a number of levels. Have re-read a few times. I had a look at the edition I have. Bought it in 1979. It was first published in 1975 not 1977. Won the Miles Franklin Literary award in 1976.
No, you can't see the difference between recognising a historical fact( which in my opinion would pass overwhelmngly) and entrenching a permanent bureaucracy to give advice that current Ministers can get if they went out and asked the people on the ground.The Voice is an element of "recognition" of first nations peoples.
You appear unable to see a difference between an historical fact and short-lived, self-serving for profit companies.
Your racism is so obvious it's now comical.No, you can't see the difference between recognising a historical fact( which in my opinion would pass overwhelmngly) and entrenching a permanent bureaucracy to give advice that current Ministers can get if they went out and asked the people on the ground.
Because the Voice is the embodiment of recognition. Furthermore, it moves beyond mere symbolism into a practical realm.So why has 'recognition' and the voice not been split into separate questions ?
They are already recognised and respected as the first inhabitants, that is why they have land rights and their culture is already recognised that is why they had the right to stop people climbing Uluru. So to infer that their isn't already recognition is false.Recognition is not a matter of logic. It's a matter of respect. No other nation has a culture that is as long lived.
That said, explain how recognition affects you if you suffer trepidation.
Therefore the processes of the departments of aboriginal affairs and ATSIC need to be sorted out, putting another level of Government in the chain doesn't fix it, the chain is still as weak as the weakest link. So in reality what exists needs to be fixed not added to.It has been well explained that systemic structural disadvantage has continued to thrive under existing arrangements.
That is an emotional argument without substance, there are just as may aboriginals saying it isn't the right move, as there are saying it is. So you as white male have really no more credibility than I as a white male, in making overreaching statements about what the majority of indigenous people want.It might not resonate with you, a white male, but it does with a majority of indigenous people who saw it as a possible way to improve on what we have now.
You actually substantiate my comments, that the aboriginal affairs departments both Federal and State need a clean out, as you rightly say the status quo will remain.That makes no sense.
If the "no" vote prevails then white Australia keeps the lid on ATSI progress as the status quo is a proven failure.
And to suggest it has anything to do with Albo is also nonsensical as his one vote is equal to every one else's.
Who is going to pay for the advisory panel? It won't be immune to corruption. Albanese told the public we would not be voting for recognition, we're voting on whether or not we want "the voice". The same voice that has awarded native title claims, the same voice that's changed the names of islands back to indigenous names, the same voice that has blocked the public from using indigenous sacred land, yet you all say that you don't have a voice.The Voice is an element of "recognition" of first nations peoples.
You appear unable to see a difference between an historical fact and short-lived, self-serving for profit companies.
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