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SirRumpole said:
Linda Birney just said in Parliament that her life expectancy is 8 years shorter than the Deputy Leader of the Opposition.

Based on what ?

A well fed, well nourished Aboriginal person has the same life expectancy as anyone else in the country.

If not, the difference must be genetic
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The reality that so many are unable to reach this simple, straightforward conclusion on a whole range of issues is behind much of society's current circumstances I think.

There's an awful lot of first order thinking going on from people who ought be capable of far better. :2twocents
 
Smurf1976 said:
In theory I agree.

But when I look at the mess that's been made in other areas, over an extended period, it seems that finding the truth can take an extremely long time.

To the point that a child born the day the issue commences may well be retired by the time it's resolved and I mean that quite literally. We certainly have other areas where we're still sorting out issues from decades ago.

Therein lies the problem. It gets sorted eventually but most will be more concerned about what happens in their own lifetime and these things can move incredibly slowly. :2twocents
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It sounds like you agree with Prime Minister Albanese that we have had 122 years and now the time has come “This change isn't about detracting from the 122 years of our democracy. As the Solicitor-General in his written advice says clearly; it enhances that system.”

I'm a bit more optimistic and think that when things need to get done most people get on with it and sort things out. Of course, there will always be dawdlers, procrastinators, and the daft, but they are usually the minority.
 
It's a very contentious issue, but look at Kgari/Fraser island in Qld for eg, 3 tribes owned it in 3 individual sections, and they all feuded over territorial rights back in the day. So at one point, they stole land from each other or the rights to hunt and live on it, are they going to reimburse the land they've stolen from the other tribes now? The government has also only consulted with one tribe over the current name change but there were actually multiple tribes that used the island, even tribes from the mainland during fishing seasons.

I don't have any problems with helping first nation people as long as the funding goes to a good cause, like education and helping underprivileged people get their lives back on track, not like what you see in a lot of mining towns.
 
We have got to stop referring to indigenous as "first nation".

Notwithstanding their original occupancy on this continent and various demarcations between various tribes and groups, there was nothing about that, that resembled anything like a "nation" in the modern concept... not even in the American indigenous paradigm

I order to accurately reflect "reconciliation" we really should recognise that, rather than imposing European national concepts.

**Musing
 
Has anyone investigated Thomas mayo?
Interesting that it's a bunch of communists pushing the voice.
 
JohnDe said:
It sounds like you agree with Prime Minister Albanese that we have had 122 years and now the time has come
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The way I see it, Australia faces many serious problems of an external or global nature and that being so, we really need to get these "internal" matters sorted once and for all then move on.

Whether the Voice is the answer or not I really don't know but we need it sorted and done. :2twocents
 
moXJO said:
Has anyone investigated Thomas mayo?
Interesting that it's a bunch of communists pushing the voice.
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Commo's .....You mean the likes of BHP RIO Woodside CBA???

I find it interesting the way when, articulate Black Australia starts speaking that there's a quick clutch for the pearls by the insecure whitey's and every ridiculous tenuous denigration.
 
orr said:
Commo's .....You mean the likes of BHP RIO Woodside CBA???

I find it interesting the way when, articulate Black Australia starts speaking that there's a quick clutch for the pearls by the insecure whitey's and every ridiculous tenuous denigration.
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I've seen dirt bag communists use black communities for a while.
I ain't a "whitey". Communism is just a sht Ideology when applied to the real world.
It's also a destabilising force for society.
 
moXJO said:
I've seen dirt bag communists use black communities for a while.
I ain't a "whitey". Communism is just a sht Ideology when applied to the real world.
It's also a destabilising force for society.
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Oh God communists.... rubbish.
 
moXJO said:
You think blm hasn't been causing untold sht amongst the city community.

Beyond ignorant.
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You have NFI seriously there hasn't been an active commo since the 60's I met the remnants early 70's none were active in Australia long dead and buried confirmed long ago by Australian security forces unlike your extreme RWNJ who suck the likes of you into their rabbit holes it just really really stupid seriously.
 
moXJO said:
You think blm hasn't been causing untold sht amongst the city community.

Beyond ignorant.
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Speaking of the US, I gather some of our indigenes are watching with great interest the whole California reparations cash grab crusade.
 
StockyGuy said:
Speaking of the US, I gather some of our indigenes are watching with great interest the whole California reparations cash grab crusade.
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I expect there will be a tax on all passed by the voice straight after they take your house and land .....
 
IFocus said:
You have NFI seriously there hasn't been an active commo since the 60's I met the remnants early 70's none were active in Australia long dead and buried confirmed long ago by Australian security
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Ummm

Communist Party of Australia

The Communist Party of Australia believes there is a way to overcome Australia’s economic and social problems. | Find out more...
cpa.org.au cpa.org.au
 
IFocus said:
You have NFI seriously there hasn't been an active commo since the 60's I met the remnants early 70's none were active in Australia long dead and buried confirmed long ago by Australian security forces unlike your extreme RWNJ who suck the likes of you into their rabbit holes it just really really stupid seriously.
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You are out of touch. Look into Thorpe's family, mayo, Marcia Langton where is she sitting right now.
You have nfi who the players are.
You want to call it 'new age communism' go ahead. But don't feed me sht about it "not existing". How many outside influences have been pushed towards which community?

It's constantly blasted out on social media.
I know which racial group doesn’t fair well from that idiot Ideology in the real world.

This is separate from the voice debate. This is me disliking the current reds popping up.
 
IFocus said:
You have NFI seriously there hasn't been an active commo since the 60's I met the remnants early 70's none were active in Australia long dead and buried ..
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.. clearly not a subscriber to Jacobin.

????

"Greens housing spokesman Max Chandler-Mather has acknowledged his opposition to the government’s $10 billion social housing fund is motivated by fomenting broader civil dissent against the growing wealth gap, prompting Anthony Albanese to label him and his party as policy frauds.

In a series of increasingly testy exchanges caused by the Greens’ refusal to pass the Housing Australia Future Fund legislation, the Prime Minister quoted an article by Mr Chandler in the socialist Jacobin magazine in which he said refusing to pass the HAFF Bill was “the only immediate leverage” the Greens had to force action on rents.
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They're watermelons, mate.
 
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