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qldfrog said:
The coalition..lol. .even in their dream, they are not at 60%
Yes. You have to drill this in
Australians as a large whole rejected that shameful apartheid Referendum.
You know, the deplorables, the toothless, the working people..
How surprising they were not keen to be legally declared as second class citizens and milk cows...
What a shock it must have been.
How dare they?
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Just to add to this, I looked the other day at how many Australians are living under the poverty line and the figure was around 3 million. Now considering there are 1 million indigenous and not all are living under the poverty line what does this say about 3% of selfish Australians wanting special treatment to bridge the gap?

https://www.missionaustralia.com.au/what-we-do/ending-homelessness/what-is-poverty-and-does-it-exist-in-australia#:~:text=Does poverty exist in Australia,poverty line, including 761,000 children.
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IFocus said:
It was written by white conservative's so no power was given, yet you and others think otherwise ?
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I'm fascinated.

Who actually wrote this?

Chapter IX Recognition of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Peoples

129 Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice

In recognition of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples as the First Peoples of Australia:

  1. There shall be a body, to be called the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice;
  2. The Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice may make representations to the Parliament and the Executive Government of the Commonwealth on matters relating to Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples;
  3. The Parliament shall, subject to this Constitution, have power to make laws with respect to matters relating to the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice, including its composition, functions, powers and procedures.
 
Sean K said:
I'm fascinated.

Who actually wrote this?

Chapter IX Recognition of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Peoples

129 Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice

In recognition of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples as the First Peoples of Australia:

  1. There shall be a body, to be called the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice;
  2. The Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice may make representations to the Parliament and the Executive Government of the Commonwealth on matters relating to Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples;
  3. The Parliament shall, subject to this Constitution, have power to make laws with respect to matters relating to the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice, including its composition, functions, powers and procedures.
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And nowhere does it state that it's an advisory (only) body.
 
Sean K said:
I'm fascinated.

Who actually wrote this?

Chapter IX Recognition of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Peoples

129 Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice

In recognition of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples as the First Peoples of Australia:

  1. There shall be a body, to be called the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice;
  2. The Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice may make representations to the Parliament and the Executive Government of the Commonwealth on matters relating to Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples;
  3. The Parliament shall, subject to this Constitution, have power to make laws with respect to matters relating to the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice, including its composition, functions, powers and procedures.
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Your fu(king kidding... surely?
 
Sean K said:
I think the 'make representations' words are the 'advisory only' bit, but it's very loose language. One of the reasons they failed to sell it.
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'Representation' and 'advisory' have 2 different meanings, the latter is what they tried to sell to everyone in the mainstream media but it's funny how it wasn't stated in the constitutional changes. There's no doubt that if they used the word 'advisory' in the documentation to change the constitution then it would hold as they had no interest in anything other than giving advice, the devil is in the detail.
 
TimeISmoney said:
'Representation' and 'advisory' have 2 different meanings, the latter is what they tried to sell to everyone in the mainstream media but it's funny how it wasn't stated in the constitutional changes. There's no doubt that if they used the word 'advisory' in the documentation to change the constitution then it would hold as they had no interest in anything other than giving advice, the devil is in the detail.
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Yes, such a simple tweak might have made a difference. From my understanding, the constitutional lawyers recognised this and advised the government to change the wording, but the architechs said no. Albo just backed the Uluru crowd. They had an agenda and he didn't get it. Maybe he underestimated Langton and Mayo, et al? Marxists are cunning beasts after all.

There were a couple of other last minute things that might have defeated this.

1. Albo saying he had not read the Uluru Statement, IN FULL. 'Why would I?'
2. Ray Martin. I think that clip destroyed any chance for the Yes mob.
 
orr said:
You wish by any chance, Rumpole, to enlighten us to your critque of the efforts of Prof Peter Yu ? or any knowledge of him? ...didn't think so.

Trawler should be well aquanted with his, PeterYu's, work, being from WA'n all... I wonder what was it like back in the day Trawler voting for a party the had Iron Bar Tucky as rep? do you still feel unclean? I tradgically never had the chance. What do your indigenious mates think about your cuddling up to old Wilson's team?
And Trawler quote the first ten or so words of my post that has your knickers in a twist... go on: And then tell me what percentage of Mrs Price's indigenious constituents she represents on the voice issue; and the next couple ? Our military man here would know the parlance (Or should) it's called 'a shot over the bow' .... And anything you'd like to add about that non-elitist John anderson ... and tell the forum who is it that funds the IPA?? .... give you a hint she's big she's a bad poet and she's from WA..... and she has many pearls to clutch; So just like you Trawler. And her dad liked the idea of chemically castrating probably a few of your indigenious mates.

'Heh Makkarata'
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Sean K said:
The Lefties heads will explode by me putting this clip up, but :p.

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Monday afternoon, ABC Radio National discussed this with an indigenous leader, he was asked why the document was not signed and who the author or authors are. The interviewer was berated for asking, made it sound like some sort of sacrilegious travesty was being committed for asking, and he should know better. I can't find the program on ABC Listen
 

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