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The Voice

When your threat backfires, deny & blame someone else

 
Yes.and we would have a genocide day but no other problem and billions extra on the budget.
You asked.....
Very seriously, this us what happened in the Caribbean islands: full wipe out of the native or in parts of Chile/ Tasmania.
Tasmania is a "funny case" as we do have aborigines paymentd, land title claims etc while at the same time have a shameful history of having the killing the last aboriginese there early in settlement time
I would not advocate this as having been better obviously...
But based on the colonial powers the approach were very different, the Spanish and Belgium kingdoms probably the worst..
 
Sir R as i have mentioned once or twice before, why bother to gain employment, or try to better themselves when the Australian Govt cash cow is so available.
 
Sir R as i have mentioned once or twice before, why bother to gain employment, or try to better themselves when the Australian Govt cash cow is so available.
And it is valid for every creed..but in Australia, anyone claiming to have some remotely Aboriginal blood..if it is not the definition of racism. , is entitled to freebies by the wagon as well as a specific favoured treatment by police.
Wait for someone brandishing figures about over representation in n jail etc..one of the dummiest argument ever but repeated nevertheless ad nauseum
And the Voice wants to worsen that.
Welfare forever is the doom of anyone, and is already a nightmare for our aboriginese communities .
Too many pigs feeding in the trough, aborigineses or not, for this to change..
If anyone was truly caring for all Australians .inc Aboriginals, it would stop free hands out, establish work for the dole at minimum and attach any hand out to a duty toward the local community be it work, training, move to a place in need of workers..
How the hell can we cry for backpackers to farm pick and have our remote communities blaming unemployment for their woes..
And we have people complaining of the state of public housing in settlement..grab a hammer and wake
So the voice is the answer? Seriously, to believe this , you need to have your brain checked to paraphrase a famous personality
But you can support the Voice by hypocrisy, direct interest or political advantages..not to firget hidden bribes: Qantas coming in mind as the most blatant recent case...
And division is the way to rule for our real masters...
 
Ah Mr Frog so well put. Plenty of abour available but the handouts are far too generous. For those that cannot work I have no issue with giving a helping hand, but work for the dole has been part of my mantra for a long time.
 
Well early in the thread, I did say this could be Albo's blow your feet off moment, I still think that's the case.
Pizz poor planning, pizz poor presentation= pizz poor outcome.
Now Albo has to some how extricate himself from the issue and jump ship IMO.
Today from a left leaning paper.

Support for the Indigenous Voice has slumped to 43 per cent after the opening week of the formal campaign for the referendum, with NSW and Victorian voters shifting against the proposal and putting it on track for defeat on October 14.

Voters have swung against the Voice for the fifth month in a row and are backing the No case in every state except Tasmania, despite a forceful campaign by Yes supporters to assure sceptical voters they had nothing to fear from the change.

An exclusive survey also shows that Labor has lost core support and Prime Minister Anthony Albanese has suffered a fall in his net performance rating to minus 7 per cent, driving this measure into negative territory for the first time since the election.

The survey, conducted for this masthead by Resolve Strategic, shows that 35 per cent of voters support the Voice and 49 per cent oppose it when asked about the government proposal for change, with another 16 per cent undecided.

The number of voters who say they would “definitely” vote No has increased from 33 to 37 per cent over the past month, while those who say they would “probably” vote No is steady at 12 per cent.

When asked a second question that only allows a Yes or No answer akin to the referendum, and using the exact wording put forward by the government, 43 per cent support the change and 57 per cent are opposed.
 
Welfare forever is the doom of anyone, and is already a nightmare for our aboriginese communities .
Two towns in western NSW come to mind - Wilcannia and Cobar.

Wilcannia has a somewhat pleasant natural setting beside the Darling River and there's also a lake close by.

Cobar is hot and surrounded by barren land in the middle of nowhere.

Having been to both as tourists passing through, we had a far more pleasant experience in..... Cobar yes. The difference being Cobar has productive industry, people have jobs, there's apparent pride in the town with everything looking neat and well kept, they've made some effort to cater for tourists and so on. Whilst not a major tourist destination, it's worth stopping and having a wander around if your passing through or looking for somewhere to stop overnight.

Versus Wilcannia where despite the theoretically more pleasant environment the whole place just feels decidedly uncomfortable. A population with no work, no reason for being, and here's us white people wandering around and clearly standing out. Let's just say we left very rapidly when trouble started with a fight outside the pub at ~11am on a weekday.

My point isn't to say the town's crap but simply to point out that communities where there's no real reason for being just don't work. If we're going to fix the situation for those living in them then it's either create some real opportunity there, or it's move the people to somewhere else and wipe the town off the map. Just handing out money simply perpetuates the situation, it means it never gets fixed.
 
But but Mr Smurf what about's people's rights. !!!!
Stop the drip feeding dollars to them and just perhaps some may just go and find legitimate employment.
But I guess it's our "land", our "heritage" and the pub is always there.
 
What the??



Indigenous Australians and First Nations people from across the globe are being offered ticket discounts of up to $170 under new “Mob Tix” concessions launched by the nation’s elite ballet, musical, arts, cultural and sporting bodies and institutions.

Special mob discounts of up to 80 per cent for Aboriginal, Torres Strait Islander, Maori, Pacific Islanders and other First Nations people have been established in the run-up to the October 14 referendum to enshrine an Indigenous voice advisory body in the Constitution.

No proof of eligibility is required to access the tickets and those who identify as a certain race or ethnic group will have their details kept confidential.

Amid plunging support for the voice referendum across multiple polls and concerns inside Labor ranks that a heavy defeat could drag support for the ALP, Anthony Albanese issued a defiant call to arms for Australians to support his marquee Indigenous policy.

The five-week campaign officially began on Monday after Governor-General David Hurley issued the writ for the referendum, which will cost as much as the 2022 federal election to hold.
 
Some of these organisations may find themselves on the wrong side of history.

I wonder how their loyal customers may react later on.
 
 
You'll find that many of them won't want to move, ancestral land, family, and other cultural stuff. Most of the small towns in NT are pretty much like this, with indigenous and non-indigenous. On the human rights front, I don't think you could deny an indigenous group from living as close as possible to cultural ways, but they need to pick a distinctive side. When you introduce alcohol and other drugs use into all of these things it gets bad quickly. Remember the outroar when one of the senators in WA tried to disperse the Indigenous housing communities?
 
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