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The state of the economy at the street level

Which IMO is exactly what is meant to happen, productivity is at an all time low, improving productivity requires workers to be more motivated, what you described above is an exercise in increasing motivation.
The trick is not to be blamed for it, Hawke did well landing it, Keating wore it, Albo learnt from the school of hard knocks.
He is doing ok, people are stitched up to the eyeballs, they can't kick up because immigration is supplying a ready replacement for the disgruntled worker and a new norm is being cast where owning a home isn't going to be for the working class.
Intergenerational loans will soon be suggested IMO.
But in the Govts defence, there isnt many options, doing business in Australia is extremely high.
 
Which IMO is exactly what is meant to happen, productivity is at an all time low, improving productivity requires workers to be more motivated, what you described above is an increase in motivation.

In the past, yes. Today there are too many people on the government welfare teat.

And when more voters are reliant on government subsidies and assistance they vote for the same. While the high income earners become fewer and taxed higher.

We have a few more years of the same before we see any significant change.
 
Thats very true, but you have to start somewhere, our economy can't sustain our welfare system long term, so slowly they have to make adjustments.

At the moment they are increasing the population, to increase the insecurity in the workforce, which makes them less receptive to moving jobs and more compliant to increasing productivity.

The big elephant in the room is how to increase productive investment, we don't have any advantage on that front, power is expensive, labour is expensive, work conditions are expensive, red tape is expensive, green tape is expensive, rehabilitation of habitat is expensive, transport costs are expensive, port costs are expensive.
Let's be honest, Australia is going to have to find a balance between social conscience and what is actually sustainable

I posted a thread years ago Australia should sell W.A to China, at that time it was a bit of a quip, but in reality it may end up closer to reality than some think.
 
"Thats very true, but you have to start somewhere, our economy can't sustain our welfare system long term, so slowly they have to make adjustments."
No..they do not
Last 30 years of France politics and economics will show you it can go on and on.
The population get replaced by migrants , the economy collapses, and the ALP will remain in power at every election promising 60% of the voters whatever remains untaxed in the other 40%
A few political changes with soft right..with roughly same program
Et voila Macron 2024 /australia 2044...
Think about that post in 20y
 
We are about to undergo our second week of forced shutdown in Production. Due to lack of work.

I had to attend a meeting of an EBA working group. So depressing the workers act like privileged morons.

A week ago I got an offer from the companies Thai manufacturing arm to set up a production line there. After the meeting I signed to offer and emailed it to them.
Another adventure.
But Australia is missing out.
 
@UMike No 1 must always come first UMike.
 
Good luck, Thailand is an interesting country, with a nice future ahead.
All the best and keep us posted
 
LOL The wife doesn't think so.

It's actually really struggling on the Street and political level.
You will learn more there, plenty to visit around with a cheap flight, even europe trip becomes cheaper less daunting.
I like northern Thailand.
But sad that Australia can not offer you these opportunities.
My startup had to be China based for similar economic conditions
Thailand will be a breeze...
 
LOL The wife doesn't think so.

It's actually really struggling on the Street and political level.
You just need air con for the hot months, Thailand is on the up, as frog said there will be a lot of opportunities there.
We for the foreseeable future, are on the slide, so lucky you opportunity knocks enjoy the voyage.

 
Our so called leaders' have lost the plot. Australia a gas rich country is going to import gas because our governments don't want to extract gas so that we can get to net zero emissions.

But it didn't start with the current crop this goes all the way back to the Rudd/Gillard years and hasn't stopped. We can't put all the blame on political class. Blame must be equally proportioned amongst the citizens that have allowed this to happen with blasé attitudes during our wealth growth period from the early 2000's. We got lazy while the elites and business leaders ran their own agenda, and we coddled a generation that believe the world is heading for destruction and money comes from government printers.

More worrying is that such a dismal result has been on the cards since before the Covid-era because of our dire productivity, especially in the public realm, over half a generation.
The cost of policy inaction from both sides of politics is now in plain view and we’re going to have to borrow more to simply stand still.

 
Exactly John, blame is often put on politicians etc..but as long as vote is representative of voters and i still think it is here and in the EU/UK zone..less so in the US.
So the reason i do not cry for France, or now Australia..we got what we deserve.
I obviously did not vote for that so try to apply to one of the few rights left..to not work, and to get out...
The blame is on me if i am still in Australia in 24.
My wife's choice but i still agreed so my responsibility.
I live on the sunny coast and my usual cafes/ shopping runs are in touristy areas: mostly domestic travel and NZ wintering.
I have the feeling it is less busy..but just recently..a month or so ago for the start
Will have to wait for school holidays to confirm.
And RE in the hinterland definitely cooling for prices..
 

"full employment stagflation" I think we will see more of this type of wording soon, unless the government can quickly get productivity improvements out to small businesses and the working class.

While household spending rose by just 0.5 per cent in the year to June, recurrent government spending was up by 4.7 per cent. GDP per capita has fallen in each of the past six quarters.
This has been described by many as a recession, but that is not the right term.
In classic recessions – including those we had in the 1980s and ’90s – aggregate demand and employment fall off a cliff, resulting in mass unemployment, a tsunami of business failures and financial market panic. Today, in contrast, unemployment remains at close to historical lows and our sharemarkets remain buoyant (if volatile). While it’s true business insolvencies are rising, many parts of the corporate sector remain profitable.

 
I'm still seeing mixed messages over here in Perth. Real estate still seems to be insane.

One of the pubs I go to seems to be very very quiet, yet another one seems to be busier than normal.

Also I have a fair few clients in the mining industry (who doesn't in Perth? lol) and hearing of quite a few layoffs.

I do feel that the cost of doing business (and cost of living of course) is really *starting to bite.
 
Rising interest rates have soften the economy... I am shocked.

Government cost of living handouts (even mining have their hand out) and emigration are keeping the boat afloat just, maybe.

Contradictions of demanding handouts while wanting tax cuts, reduced government spending, etc.

Importing gas because of market forces not sovereign requirements points to the madness.
 

Luckily, we have fairly low interest rates at the moment compared to others.

If people were able to keep more of their income and the rate of inflation was lower, and the cost of power and gas at reasonable levels, the government wouldn't have to give so many handouts.

Handouts and high taxes increase inflation and lower productivity.

Yes, it is total madness when governments block the access of our gas, forcing companies to import gas to meet demand.

 
IMO not that lucky , i estimate a Central Bank need a 5% rate to give it room to move to help a distressed economy in a meaningful way

having the similar rates as the EU is an ominous sign ( considering the current 'healthy ' state of the EU )
 
"Rising interest rates have soften(sic) the economy"

The question is - rising from where and to what. Interest rates are still not anywhere near the long-term average, and could be argued that are still negative in real terms. (Depending on what figures we actually believe and their effect upon the economy)

It reveals the real state of the economy and in addition one should examine the Cantillon effect with regards to the same.

It is moronic in the extreme to truncate interest rate history back to zero interest rates and without regard to projecting interest rate policy forward.

If I can draw a metaphor from my own profession, given a particular pathology I can fiddle with the biomechanics to extend the working life of the animal, however the ultimate result, even though extending the working life, is ultimately calamitous. It would have been far better for the owner of the animal to employ a preventative protocol, even though that initially it may have been more expensive.
 
With Bill gone, can the Labor government control itself? I don't think so. If Labor wins the next election and continues down the road it has taken, we could see the biggest and most dramatic changes in history.

The former Labor leader’s thinking began to coalesce this idea more recently, with colleagues saying he was dismayed at the direction Labor was going on a range of issues.

Those still loyal to him in the caucus say he was one of the last sensible heads left in the Labor cabinet.



 
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