The ScoMo Government

Not a surprise...do you prefer receiving money or helping your boss
The surprise is 48pc still understand that when all businesses are closed, there is no pie left to share.
Then the spiel turn into taxing foreign corporation
Well rehearsed speech...how can labour even loose...

basilio said:

Do you mean right now or in 20 years time ? (If your still around.)

I would fear for anyone in their 50's who has been made redundant and is trying to get a job in a job market that is very competitive and focused on youth. There are only so many jobs available at Bunnings.

"Once upon a time" when factory workers lost their jobs in their 50's and particularly if they wern't that skilled. the Government quietly allowed them to go onto disability pensions. It isn't a huge amount (same as old age pensions) but it kept people under a roof and not totally suicidal. And this policy tacitly recognised that with the decline in manufacturing there would be few new jobs suitable for such people . It also recognised that perhaps younger people would be better served with those opportunities.

That option has now been lost. Disability pensions provisions have been tightened right down. Your 50's unemployed worker has to spend all their savings then go on Newstart and apply for 20 BS jobs a month to keep alive.

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At retirement age.......probably 30 years by then

Toyota Lexcen said:

Sounds like the chinese plasterers on cbd towers that are Union backed.

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Last time I checked the union didn’t issue visas
Unions stand up for working people regardless where your from.

How about before the City council approves new buildings the builders have to employ a certain amount of apprentices before getting a green light
It was done before for government contracts were issued
Canberra is full of lawyers who have no concept of the real world

They support the companies on there sites to get union fees.

Like the farce of a 36hr week.

Humid said:

If your in your 50s self funded and the abolishment of the franking credits is going to be your downfall.....get a bloody job

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That would first require employers to be willing to employ such people.

I’ve seen enough of it to know the truth indeed fear of that outcome is the primary reason I’ve saved and invested throughout my working life thus far.

Much the same reason I willingly worked 7 days a week when I had the option.

If you end up over 50 + out of work then you’re on the scrap heap unless you’re incredibly lucky. It happens to a hell of a lot.

Toyota Lexcen said:

They support the companies on there sites to get union fees.

Like the farce of a 36hr week.

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More delays more pays

Toyota Lexcen said:

They support the companies on there sites to get union fees.

Like the farce of a 36hr week.

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https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...women-have-a&usg=AOvVaw3WvpFOh4hmfWLm5k_Ugv-G

What

Humid said:

More delays more pays

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What do you mean?

Thousandso of people missing out on jobs, greedy few.

Lets talk about the the dying days of this diseased government.
I do love First Dog on the Moon. He has perfected a new political comic strip that slices and dices some of the most ridiculous sorts of political BS into neat, flushable pieces.

Because in the end much of this BS should be flushed. It's odious, spiteful, lying rubbish.
So check out his take on how" lying, conning refugees are pushing hardworking, decent Aussies off hospital waiting lists ".
Peter Dutton and the dumb, cruel lie
First Dog on the Moon
It’s the really obvious barefaced, pants down, bum out the window lies that get me

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/mar/01/peter-dutton-and-the-dumb-cruel-lie

Looking at the contradictions of the governments new plans to deal with CC. (Or at least the perceptions of the "soft Libs" )

Coalition is struggling to handle the heat of its own bonfire
Katharine Murphy
The party finds itself caught up in contradictions in its rushed measures to tackle climate change

https://www.theguardian.com/austral...uggling-to-handle-the-heat-of-its-own-bonfire

basilio said:

Lets talk about the the dying days of this diseased government.
I do love First Dog on the Moon. He has perfected a new political comic strip that slices and dices some of the most ridiculous sorts of political BS into neat, flushable pieces.

Because in the end much of this BS should be flushed. It's odious, spiteful, lying rubbish.
So check out his take on how" lying, conning refugees are pushing hardworking, decent Aussies off hospital waiting lists ".
Peter Dutton and the dumb, cruel lie
First Dog on the Moon
It’s the really obvious barefaced, pants down, bum out the window lies that get me

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/mar/01/peter-dutton-and-the-dumb-cruel-lie

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Just wondering if you will keep up the vitriol for Shorten and co., Bas?

wayneL said:

Just wondering if you will keep up the vitriol for Shorten and co., Bas?

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Labor is not in government , yet.

If they stuff up as much as the Coalition the heat will be on them.

SirRumpole said:

Labor is not in government , yet.

If they stuff up as much as the Coalition the heat will be on them.

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They are a shoe-in IMO, Horace.

No doubt they will cop a spray, but as bas is the most prolific regurgitator of anti centre right propaganda (some most certainly deserved btw), I'm wondering if he'll maintain the rage with Labor.

I suspect not and that will be instructive.

wayneL said:

They are a shoe-in IMO, Horace.

No doubt they will cop a spray, but as bas is the most prolific regurgitator of anti centre right propaganda (some most certainly deserved btw), I'm wondering if he'll maintain the rage with Labor.

I suspect not and that will be instructive.

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We'll see in six years I suppose.

SirRumpole said:

We'll see in six years I suppose.

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Perhaps not, perhaps only approved opinions may be posted by then.

wayneL said:

Just wondering if you will keep up the vitriol for Shorten and co., Bas?

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That will depend on the performance i'd say. The way they support the coal industry and the clearing of natural habitats for timber the social justice fight will continue. Hope at least there is some empathy for well qualified 60 yo women who cannot get a job and are living out of their cars.

But this is where our govmint is at ATM:-

"
Australia is the only developed country that allows climate change funding to be used to upgrade coal-fired power plants, green finance experts say.

Experts say allowing Vales Point coal-fired power station to register with the Morrison government’s emissions reduction fund, re-badged this week as a “climate solutions” policy, puts Australia out of step with the World Bank, Europe and the US, which have all rejected using climate financing for coal power retrofits. The World Bank has issued US$13bn in green bonds since 2008 to stimulate spending to combat global warming.

China has used green bonds to help build new coal-fired plants to replace older, dirtier stations on the grounds it reduces nitrogen-based emissions causing the country’s oppressive air pollution. But it announced in December it would no longer consider “clean coal” plants which still emit significant amounts of greenhouse gas as investments in green technology.

“If you were committed to meeting the goals of the Paris climate agreement, which the Australian government says it is this is just lunacy,” Sean Kidney CEO of the London-based Climate Bonds Initiative,says. “No investors in the western world will accept any green bonds that incentivize anything like coal station retrofits. From an investor’s perspective, coal is a dead duck.” Private-sector capital is increasingly looking for low carbon and de-carbonization opportunities, it would seem to be swimming against the tide to put taxpayer funding into these [coal] activities,” Herd says.

Emma Herd, chief executive of the Investor Group on Climate Change, says Australia is moving across the trend by considering giving taxpayer support to coal. In addition to the potential support through the climate solutions fund, the government is considering underwriting the cost of building new coal-fired power stations.

In the past fortnight, mining giant Glencore has said it will cap coal production in response to pressure from shareholders, while Rio Tinto stressed it was the only large mining company with no fossil fuel investments, having sold its final coal assets to Glencore last year. From an investor’s perspective, coal is a dead duck.

Last year the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change said that limiting global warming to 1.5C – a goal referenced in the Paris climate agreement – would require coal use for energy to fall 59-78% below 2010 levels by 2030.

The Global Carbon Project found global emissions were likely to have hit a new high in 2018, in part due to an increase in coal burning in China. It bucked a global decline in emissions from coal in 2015 and 2016."

Out of discussions today with an alternative direction to help our planet in The Greens.

wayneL said:

No doubt they will cop a spray, but as bas is the most prolific regurgitator of anti centre right propaganda (some most certainly deserved btw), I'm wondering if he'll maintain the rage with Labor.

I suspect not and that will be instructive.

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I think Dutton is lower than a snakes belly. The spray he ( and ScoMo) scored from First Dog on the Moon was right on target. The Aslyum seekers are in serious health difficulties as a direct consequence of the vindictive behaviours of the current administration. They have steadfastly refused to treat the problems until overwhelming urgency is apparent. Shame that is too late most of the time..

Our public medical system, built for 25 million people, would cope with a few aslyum seekers. It just would as it attempts to do for the wide range of illnesses and problems it faces.

And in any case Wayne (as FDOM points out) the challenge of our public health system is a consequence of a Liberal government that has cut billions of dollars from the system - while spending billions of dollars making nightmare camps that destroy peoples lives in the name of national security. Figures doesn't it ?

Yep Dutton is a priceless, nasty piece of merda. Looking forward to seeing him drummed out of Parliament.

basilio said:

Our public medical system, built for 25 million people, would cope with a few aslyum seekers.

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I agree with the principle of what you are saying but I see rather a lot of evidence that our medical system isn't coping with 25 million and would probably struggle with 20 million.

Elderly people left literally lying on the floor in WA, ambulances queued outside hospitals for hours in SA, waiting lists for surgery in Tas. Not sure about the other states but those 3 at least already have issues.

We should of course be able to afford this stuff. Just stop the waste and special deals for very special mates and spend the money on useful stuff instead.

Smurf1976 said:

I agree with the principle of what you are saying but I see rather a lot of evidence that our medical system isn't coping with 25 million and would probably struggle with 20 million.

Elderly people left literally lying on the floor in WA, ambulances queued outside hospitals for hours in SA, waiting lists for surgery in Tas. Not sure about the other states but those 3 at least already have issues.

We should of course be able to afford this stuff. Just stop the waste and special deals for very special mates and spend the money on useful stuff instead.

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Yes, and whose watch has this happened under ?

Hence the call by the opposition for more health spending funded by the NG and franking rebates,