The ScoMo Government

[Knobby22]

Religious freedom, really.

Giving the PM's mates and pedophilic organisations more rights than the rest of us, priortised over cleaning up their own act

Disgusting.

Religions deserve to practise freely and deserve some protection to hire who they want etc.
Scomo has deliberately waited to now to pass this as he is going to try to wedge Labor on it! Clever tactics to win the religious immigrant population.

Also, I note the Libs have put back all the money they cut back from the ABC to stop Labor wedging them (with the country voters in particular).!

From the Australian

Coalition gives ABC a pre-election funding boost​

The Morrison government has given the ABC a pre-election pay rise, committing to a $3.28bn support package and scrapping its indexation freeze on the broadcaster’s budget.

 

[Knobby22]

New Zealand newspaper in a joke in Parliament 1873 having a go at an American politician!

He brought in the Provincial Loan Bill, declaring that, if the House did not accept it, he was prepared to adhere to his original proposal. It was something like the American legislator — “Them’s my principles; but if you don’t like them — I kin change them!

The joke went on through the years and then Groucho Marx went for the comedy gold.
These, gentlemen, are my principles, but if you do not like them I can change them.

 

[wayneL]

When Bolt calls it a day on ScoMo, it definitely is time to move on.
Josh Frydenberg is my guess as next leader of the Libs, Dutton is as unelectable as Shorten.

Frydenberg would be no change at all, deck chairs on the Titanic and all that.

And apart from anything else, Dutton has more of an authoritarian Impulse than anyone else in the Liberal Party. that would be a welcome shift to the right, but in my opinion not the right sort of right.

The Liberal party needs a Tony Abbott without the gaffs... And it just doesn't have one of those right now.

 

[SirRumpole]

Frydenberg would be no change at all, deck chairs on the Titanic and all that.

And apart from anything else, Dutton has more of an authoritarian Impulse than anyone else in the Liberal Party. that would be a welcome shift to the right, but in my opinion not the right sort of right.

The Liberal party needs a Tony Abbott without the gaffs... And it just doesn't have one of those right now.

Well, they may sort it all out in 3 years.

 

[sptrawler]

The Liberal party needs a Tony Abbott without the gaffs... And it just doesn't have one of those right now.

Yes, Abbott was another one that couldn't think on his feet, the media ran rings around him.
When he had time to think out the issue he usually came up with the goods, but with the 24/7 in your face media who have google at their fingertips, time to think about answers is something politicians don't get anymore.
Abbot certainly performed better in a reactionary role, than in a proactive role.
It's going to be interesting to see how Albo goes, it will either make or break him IMO.

 

[PZ99]

Abbott = LOL

Work till 70, no dole for under 30's, zero penalty rates, higher taxes on super for low income earners.

Yep, bring him back... Albo would get 3 terms... too easy

 

[Investoradam]

Not a LNP government deserving of re-election, and Albo can start choosing rhe curtains ar the Lodge.

Yes ALP bot!

actually none of them are both parties are the same now days and do the opposite that is for the Australian people

for how hopeless the LNP are people forget how useless the ALP are!
The so called workers party sold Australian sovereignty from the Australian people in the mid 70s under the oxygen thief of Gough Whitlam and been pleasing the globalist over lauds since!
I mean why else to Laud a dud at best that was sacked after 3 odd years

 

[Investoradam]

For sheer amusement, I'd love to see UAP horse trading with the majors to form a coalition.... That would be funny

Doesn’t that trigger the lefties. If the UAP were to do that it would push the greens out and watch how desperate they get with there usual gutter trash tactics

 

[sptrawler]

Abbott = LOL

Work till 70, no dole for under 30's, zero penalty rates, higher taxes on super for low income earners.

Yep, bring him back... Albo would get 3 terms... too easy

Well if you're going to drag out fails, let's do a few Labor ones:
Wages accord, drop in real wages.
Tariff removal, loss of Manufacturing.
Using the military and overseas scab labour, to strike break.
Raising the retirement age from 65-67, not just talking about it, actually doing it.
Increasing qualification requirement for disability.
Removing tax advantage from established homes, give it to new builds and a bonus payment for the rich.
Higher taxes on low income earners, by removal of franking credits, from low income earners. But billionaires can keep theirs.
That's actually spread across most of labor's recent terms in office, so not just one leader, hopefully Albo doesn't continue the track record. ?

 

[SirRumpole]

Religions deserve to practise freely and deserve some protection to hire who they want etc.

By all means let them hire and protect homosexual pedophile priests while telling the rest of us that homosexuality is a mortal sin.

 

[sptrawler]

Religions deserve to practise freely and deserve some protection to hire who they want etc.

You probably find that most religions can do all of the above, these days it's only the Christians that can be put to the sword, the others already are protected species in Australia IMO.
Anyone can say anything they like about Christians, try doing the same with the Muslim religion. ?

 

[Humid]

Well if you're going to drag out fails, let's do a few Labor ones:
Wages accord, drop in real wages.
Tariff removal, loss of Manufacturing.
Using the military and overseas scab labour, to strike break.
Raising the retirement age from 65-67, not just talking about it, actually doing it.
Increasing qualification requirement for disability.
Removing tax advantage from established homes, give it to new builds and a bonus payment for the rich.
Higher taxes on low income earners, by removal of franking credits, from low income earners. But billionaires can keep theirs.
That's actually spread across most of labor's recent terms in office, so not just one leader, hopefully Albo doesn't continue the track record. ?

More a removal of a tax break for people who don't pay income tax
What do you reckon Iraq cost us and for what

 

[mullokintyre]

Iraq, Afghanistan, Timor, PNG, Solomons, patrolling the straits of Homuz, you name it, all a waste of money.
Mick

 

[sptrawler]

More a removal of a tax break for people who don't pay income tax

Lots of people have tax breaks or welfare payments, or lower personal income tax than what other generations had. If it helped keep people off welfare, it is doing a service.
As I said at the time, what is the logic in taking it of a grandmother that gets $2,000 say, yet giving it as a tax break to reduce someone in the top tax bracket tax bill by $200million in offsets?
Weird logic, the reality was it was intended to force SMSF into industry funds, then you kept your franking credits. I don't like that sort of deviousness and most of Australia agreed.
Albo sounds much more sensible IMO.

What do you reckon Iraq cost us and for what

Lots as all wars do, I was lucky conscription stopped a couple of years before I was going to have to put my name down for Vietnam.
I'm not a fan of war, protecting your own Country is one thing, going overseas to fight a war that isn't our business I'm dead against.

 

[wayneL]

By all means let them hire and protect homosexual pedophile priests while telling the rest of us that homosexuality is a mortal sin.

Point of order: notwithstanding the fact that some of this abhorent stuff has happened, that is not actually the practice of the religion at all. That is *people being total @ssholes. (and the reason that even though I call myself a Christian, I stay well the fark away from churches... In fact I find myself in open conflict with all of my local churches... I am giving them sh¹t)

But let's not blame the religion, let's blame the people.

 

[sptrawler]

Point of order: notwithstanding the fact that some of this abhorent stuff has happened, that is not actually the practice of the religion at all. That is *people being total @ssholes. (and the reason that even though I call myself a Christian, I stay well the fark away from churches... In fact I find myself in open conflict with all of my local churches... I am giving them sh¹t)

But let's not blame the religion, let's blame the people.

I'm an atheist, so don't really care one way or another, but as you say it boils down to weird people.
The reason they got into religion, is the same reason they gravitate toward clubs like the boy scouts, there is a supply of what they want.

 

[SirRumpole]

Point of order: notwithstanding the fact that some of this abhorent stuff has happened, that is not actually the practice of the religion at all. That is *people being total @ssholes. (and the reason that even though I call myself a Christian, I stay well the fark away from churches... In fact I find myself in open conflict with all of my local churches... I am giving them sh¹t)

But let's not blame the religion, let's blame the people.t

Yes sure, but we are talking organisations as employers who want to discriminate, not individuals.

 

[wayneL]

I'm an atheist, so don't really care one way or another, but as you say it boils down to weird people.
The reason they got into religion, is the same reason they gravitate toward clubs like the boy scouts, there is a supply of what they want.

It's abuse of position and power for self gratification... and that transcends, in a negative way, one's purported beliefs, one way or the other.

The corollary of which, is that even as a Christian, I don't give a crap whether someone is atheist, agnostic, or any of a number of religions... Just don't care.

And I doubt the (assuming there is one) creator gives a crap.

The immutable truth is that our actions affect other people and we have a choice whether those actions are positive or negative.

None of us are perfect in this regard, but at least we should have the best intentions.

This is where, perhaps we can be judgemental?

 

[wayneL]

Yes sure, but we are talking organisations as employers who want to discriminate, not individuals.

Joe biden seeks to discriminate by appointing the next supreme court judge as both female and black.

Let's suppose that I have children, which I don't, and wish them to have a certain religious education (whatever that may be). Should I consider a radical Mudjahad Muslim

Yes sure, but we are talking organisations as employers who want to discriminate, not individuals.

Should I hire a Wiccan priestess to teach my children Catholic values?

Disclaimer: Nothing against Wiccan priestesses. I would break bread with them in an instant.

 

[SirRumpole]

Joe biden seeks to discriminate by appointing the next supreme court judge as both female and black.

Let's suppose that I have children, which I don't, and wish them to have a certain religious education (whatever that may be). Should I consider a radical Mudjahad Muslim
Should I hire a Wiccan priestess to teach my children Catholic values?

Disclaimer: Nothing against Wiccan priestesses. I would break bread with them in an instant.

If a school hires a maths teacher it doesn't matter wbat relgion they are.