The lunatic right
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There is even a special place in hell for centrists, according to both the left and the right (which iI now no longer know what the **** means)
Kind of ends up that you get called both a commie and a fascist
Well that's the problem when dealing with ideologists of both sides, they just don't accept that no ideology is right all the time, policies have to be made on evidence and conditions existing at the time. That's why we now have one of the biggest debts of all time , because a Conservative Party went Leftist !
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What's that got to do with the price of fish ?
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Nothing.
I messed up my quotes as I was in the middle of responding to something else.
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Really...you think if Labor was in power throughout this pandemic that we would not have one of the biggest debts of all time? In any event, do you honestly think whatever government was in power that they should have said to hell with everything we just want to come out of this with no increase in debt? So what, we are in debt is that really such a bad thing...I mean is it really that bad?
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Well, you might like to ask those in the Liberal Party who drove 'debt buses' around the country the last time the 'Lefties' were in power.
I don't disagree with what they did, but neither do I disagree with investments in infrastructure like the nbn which was panned by the Libs onthe grounds that it increased debt.
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I know and that is very funny. But on a serious note, I have no doubt that Labor would have also gone on a massive spending spree and we would be in a similar debt situation. I'm not here to say the LNP is better than the ALP. I just think your prior comment about the "conservatives" and our massive debt is disingenuous given the major problems we've had over the past few years. Anyway, I'm not here to point score as I couldn't give a rats arse about either the LNP or the ALP as they are all sad sacks of ****.
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My comment was tongue in cheek as I said I didn't disagree with what they did. But anyway, the debt is there and will h ave to be paid off somehow, we will see what differences there are between the Parties as to how they are going to do that.
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Wages growth--not so sure the facts look good for either of the major parties.
The Howard government certainly presided over some serious wage growth but poor old Kevin Dudd and his band of sycophants was just incapable of keeping the momentum going and ushered in the era of wage decline. Good old ScoMo was happy to keep Dudd's legacy of wage decline going and as achieved an all time record of the lowest wage growth.
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Have you heard of the Global Financial Crisis ?
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Yup, that's that thing Wayne Swan keeps trotting out as the excuse for everything
I'm not sure if you're being tongue in cheek again--but you can't throw rocks at the LNP for bringing us massive debt then go trotting out the GFC as an excuse for Kevin Dudd and his band of fools. Facts are the facts and you can make all the excuses you like, but the ALP track record on wage growth is?
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You can blame the Workchoices policy for the wage growth decline because despite what so many people think, the majority of Workchoices is still there.
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Yes, the GFC is a fact, and you can't just wish it away.
It had an effect on the global economy like it or not.
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Same logic applies to Covid and the impact it has had on the global economy, but somehow I suspect you will not give the ScoMo circus the same leave pass you'll give Kevin Dudd?
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I have to ask:- if you don't give a rats, why are you advocating tit for tat? It's not like you care if one or both are dissed.
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I’m not advocating tit for tat (how so) and I couldn’t give a rats toss bag about one party or the other being ridiculed. However, the hypocrisy and irony from those claiming the ALP or the LNP is somehow better than the other is infuriating to say the least. I’m merely highlighting the fact both the major parties are useless and lost the plot long ago. You know, it is just possible that because you point out the failings of one party that you are not a supporter of the other party.
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My apologies then. You came across as very defensive of the LNP that's all.
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I don’t mean this personally, but your assumption is exactly what is wrong with a large part of the current political discourse. Slag off at one party and you’re automatically assumed to be a raving mad supporter of the other party. This is why everything in politics these days is so polarised and a proper debate cannot be had
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Polarised by calling people "disingenuous" perhaps?
