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Apparently in Victoria they have no problems about naming suspects.

A CROSS-DRESSER alleged to have committed an indecent assault is being sought by police.

Images of 20-year-old Reservoir man Graeme Austin dressed as a woman have been released by police, who have requested public assistance to locate him.

Austin is wanted for interview in relation to twelve separate alleged offences including indecent assault, thefts and obtaining property by deception.

He is alleged to have committed the offences between May 12 and yesterday in the northern suburbs of Melbourne.

Anyone with information is asked to contact Crime Stoppers on 1800 333 000 or visit crimestoppers.com.au
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http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/la...indecent-assault/story-fni0fee2-1226656380810
 
Remember this guy; he killed six kids in Mildura when he was speeding etc in 2006. Six kids, all aged below 18. They are dead, he will be out next week. Unbelievable ... crash happened in 2006. Works out at about 1 year per teenager killed.

- Thomas Towle, who killed six teens in hit-run outside Mildura, is set for prison release ...

For the record, here are their names - lest we forget and RIP. A tough, tough day for their parents:

'Killed in the accident were brother and sister Shane, 16, and Abby Hirst, 17, Stevie-Lee Weight, 15, and Cassandra Manners, Cory Dowling and Josephine Calvi, all 16.'
 
Bushman said:
Remember this guy; he killed six kids in Mildura when he was speeding etc in 2006. Six kids, all aged below 18. They are dead, he will be out next week. Unbelievable ... crash happened in 2006. Works out at about 1 year per teenager killed.

- Thomas Towle, who killed six teens in hit-run outside Mildura, is set for prison release ...

For the record, here are their names - lest we forget and RIP. A tough, tough day for their parents:

'Killed in the accident were brother and sister Shane, 16, and Abby Hirst, 17, Stevie-Lee Weight, 15, and Cassandra Manners, Cory Dowling and Josephine Calvi, all 16.'
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and he'll probably go into hiding at our expense :mad:
 
If there is such a law of not being able to release the name of someone charged with rape then how come Stephen Milne (the AFL footballer) has been publically "outed" today? Seems to contradict the rest of this thread. :confused:
 
Bushman said:
Remember this guy; he killed six kids in Mildura when he was speeding etc in 2006. Six kids, all aged below 18. They are dead, he will be out next week. Unbelievable ... crash happened in 2006. Works out at about 1 year per teenager killed.

- Thomas Towle, who killed six teens in hit-run outside Mildura, is set for prison release ...

For the record, here are their names - lest we forget and RIP. A tough, tough day for their parents:

'Killed in the accident were brother and sister Shane, 16, and Abby Hirst, 17, Stevie-Lee Weight, 15, and Cassandra Manners, Cory Dowling and Josephine Calvi, all 16.'
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It really is tragic when these things happen, to a degree it is due to peoples ignorance of the fact a car is as serious a weapon as a gun.
It is still a projectile whether it is fired out of a cylinder, or you are sitting in the projectile.
This belief, to a certain extent is due to our conditioning, where bad people fire guns and cool, exciting people drive cars recklessly.
It is a hard one to call, however I think if that person re offends in any way that can be percieved as reckless, they should be throw back in jail for double the initial time.

For the families of the victims, it is a lifetime of hurt, the victims you hope didn't suffer too much.
We really do worry too much about the welfare of the perpetrator, while the victim is quickly forgotten.
 
It takes a lot of speed and recklessness to kill 6 people in one go, he should have got longer.
But this is the land of "no worries mate" if rapists with 20 convictions can roam the streets to eventually kill someone (Jill Meagher) anything goes.
 
dutchie said:
Why should this thug be offered manslaughter. It should be murder no questions asked.

Send a strong message to others who think they can king hit others with no consequence. The victim is dead. His family has lost their son for life.

Kieran Loveridge, the man who fatally king hit Thomas Kelly, pleads guilty to manslaughter

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-06-18/thomas-kellys-attacker-pleads-guilty-to-manslaughter/4762208
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The offence of murder is one in which one person kills another with the intention to unlawfully cause either death or serious injury.

The charge of murder is usually downgraded to manslaughter because the thug will usually be acquitted of murder.
In a similar case to this a few years ago in Queensland they made the mistake of charging the guy with murder...and he was acquitted.

All the thug has to say is "I hit him Judge, but I didn't mean to kill him" and he will be restored to the bosom of his adoring family.

Such is the law.:rolleyes:
 
dutchie said:
Why should this thug be offered manslaughter. It should be murder no questions asked.
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The Crown has one bite at the cherry. If they go for murder and can't prove it then that's that. It would be hard to prove that someone punching someone in the head intended to kill them.
 
McLovin said:
The Crown has one bite at the cherry. If they go for murder and can't prove it then that's that. It would be hard to prove that someone punching someone in the head intended to kill them.
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Calliope said:
The offence of murder is one in which one person kills another with the intention to unlawfully cause either death or serious injury.

The charge of murder is usually downgraded to manslaughter because the thug will usually be acquitted of murder.
In a similar case to this a few years ago in Queensland they made the mistake of charging the guy with murder...and he was acquitted.

All the thug has to say is "I hit him Judge, but I didn't mean to kill him" and he will be restored to the bosom of his adoring family.

Such is the law.:rolleyes:
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Yes I understand the current law. I propose that the mandatory charge is murder and that the onus is upon the thug to prove that it was not. This proof should be as difficult as possible to do. " I did not mean to kill him" should not be a defense!
 
dutchie said:
Yes I understand the current law. I propose that the mandatory charge is murder and that the onus is upon the thug to prove that it was not. This proof should be as difficult as possible to do. " I did not mean to kill him" should not be a defense!
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What about 2nd degree, do we have that here ?
 
dutchie said:
Yes I understand the current law. I propose that the mandatory charge is murder and that the onus is upon the thug to prove that it was not. This proof should be as difficult as possible to do. " I did not mean to kill him" should not be a defense!
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No thanks. If someone wants to accuse another of doing something, then it's up to the accuser to provide proof. Otherwise we may as well go back to star chambers.
 
McLovin said:
It would be hard to prove that someone punching someone in the head intended to kill them.
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dutchie said:
Yes I understand the current law. I propose that the mandatory charge is murder and that the onus is upon the thug to prove that it was not. This proof should be as difficult as possible to do. " I did not mean to kill him" should not be a defense!
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I agree with McLovin. Dutchie, there would be plenty of instances where the same punch by the same person would have entirely different effects, dependent on underlying factors with respect to the victim.
 
In other news...

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...years-non-parole/story-e6frg6nf-1226666134662

So...agree 100% with the sentence...murder should always cop a HEFTY life imprisonment. But I can't feel that just because this girl was 'somewhat' famous (was she really even?) then the guilty party got a fair whack with the book.

Our murder cases with 2 apparent 'commoners' get probably 20 years with parole after 15...with their crimes being no less heinous. What a slight on the system I say.
 
Agree, and makes me angry too, dutchie, they should have the full extent of the law, why are they punching people anyway?
A majority of the time they have a criminal history.
I can feel a restlessness brewing in society regarding these cases.
 
Everyone knows that if you king hit someone they may die from the blow.

Everyone knows that if you king hit someone they may fall over and hit their head on the pavement (or some hard object) and that kills them.

Therefore any person who decides to king hit someone may kill that person - that is premeditated murder.
 
That gives anyone license to king hit anyone and plead manslaughter if the happen to kill them......the justice system needs a big overhaul or frankly people will take the law into their own hands.
 
If we apply that standard and ignore the element of intent and instead apply something along the lines of "has the possibility however remote of causing death", it follows that punching someone should result in a charge of attempted murder (how many State of Origin players would be facing a judge tomorrow morning?). As should pushing someone over, tripping someone....the list goes on and on.
 
However if such an assault causes death the charge should be 2nd degree murder or similar, manslaughter should be reserved for accidental death caused by negligence, ie: lack of concentration while driving.
 

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