The impact of technology on future jobs

[tech/a]

I'll try and find it thanks.

Me to
This will be an
Inevitability.

Constant change to the point where most wont find a job and those jobs available for those who choose to work will be very hard to find.
They will be valued.
I’m sure that money will not be the main motivation.
Being able to work will be the biggest to fight boredom and to have a sense of worth.

In my field Building and civil works ( sewers,drainage,roads,earthworks) are already seeing change
Kit form housing in modules and in Europe I saw an 11 story apartment block built in 3 weeks
Amazing but only 1/3rd of trades.

Our kids kids will need to look very differently at life and it’s challenges.

 

[wayneL]

Musk may be something of a false messiah but... I agree that we need to be proactive in regulating this before things get out of hand. Humans are too irresponsible to act ethically as a race generally and looking back at the disasters of capitalism we have had leaded petrol, asbestos, cigarettes among others just in the last century, and it seems like "it's different this time" is everyone's favorite warcry.

How might have socialism precluded these?

 

[qldfrog]

Just read the perth company brick laying robot can do 1000 bricks an hour(24/7);
enter the design and let the robot go, and the brickie's jobs go as well

 

[tech/a]

It’s fine in a straight line
Setup take ages when you turn a corner
Programming is individual not blanket.
Needs a stack of room to operate.
Get 8 ft off the ground and that’s a problem

But there are possibilities for long runs.

 

[CanOz]

Just read the perth company brick laying robot can do 1000 bricks an hour(24/7);
enter the design and let the robot go, and the brickie's jobs go as well

Yes, i heard the same thing or similar about the dunny house cleaner, or was it the grave digger? Surely death is near for all of us! errr...after mass unemployment that is!

Use your mind Frog, not your emotions!

 

[tech/a]

Can what’s up mate
Never seen you confrontational?
Ducks and Frogs on the list?

 

[qldfrog]

Yes, i heard the same thing or similar about the dunny house cleaner, or was it the grave digger? Surely death is near for all of us! errr...after mass unemployment that is!

Use your mind Frog, not your emotions!

just look at the number of employed vs overall population, use figures not your emotions, brick layoing /sparkies/plumbers will be the last to go, beware your white collar job well before ; you do not work in a bank, accounting, media are you?, or IT?

 

[CanOz]

just look at the number of employed vs overall population, use figures not your emotions, brick layoing /sparkies/plumbers will be the last to go, beware your white collar job well before ; you do not work in a bank, accounting, media are you?, or IT?

Nah, i run a snackfood plant on the weekends....

My point is mate, everything evolves. The Zerohedge doom and gloom doesn't work on me, I hold much too much hope for humanity to overcome obstacles, as proven by history.

 

[qldfrog]

Nah, i run a snackfood plant on the weekends....

My point is mate, everything evolves. The Zerohedge doom and gloom doesn't work on me, I hold much too much hope for humanity to overcome obstacles, as proven by history.

as proven by history? On long term maybe but as they say in finance past performance.....
have a quick honest look at the "progress of mankind" in the last 50y mate...
real technology: aka how long to go: drive/fly from A to B, actual yield in agriculture vs input, etc ; human and societal;
joke as much as you want but I was facing a far better future as a 20y old than my son has at 20;
ooohh I forgot, we got netflix, FB and smartphone and social media.
Jobs are disappearing fast in the west and have been since the 80s; as a result real income falls US/europe but I am sure you will be smarter than everyone (or any AI).

 

[Tisme]

.....t I was facing a far better future as a 20y old than my son has at 20;
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It is certainly a more hectic lifestyle than what it used to be. Now our physicality has plateaued and about to decline due to stress, indolence, obesity, etc it doesn't bode well for pursuant generations being capable of comparable performance to mechanisation and automation.

If you want to see civilisation prime for a fall, just look at "NBC Today" on 7 in the mornings = obese women with the same hair styles, salivating down their double chins over the fatty sugary foods rather than spending their time upskilling and exercising.

Your son will look forward to the real prospects of changing jobs every 2 or 3 years, being sicker than the boomers, competing for third world wages and conditions, being childless, wifeless, being a perpetual renter and dare I say, due to lack of peer group cohesion and lone wolf necessity:- less ubiquitously erudite and overtly unhappy.

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[SirRumpole]

It is certainly a more hectic lifestyle than what it used to be. Now our physicality has plateaued and about to decline due to stress, indolence, obesity, etc it doesn't bode well for pursuant generations being capable of comparable performance to mechanisation and automation.

If you want to see civilisation prime for a fall, just look at "NBC Today" on 7 in the mornings = obese women with the same hair styles, salivating down their double chins over the fatty sugary foods rather than spending their time upskilling and exercising.

Your son will look forward to the real prospects of changing jobs every 2 or 3 years, being sicker than the boomers, competing for third world wages and conditions, being childless, wifeless, being a perpetual renter and dare I say, due to lack of peer group cohesion and lone wolf necessity:- less ubiquitously erudite and overtly unhappy.

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There really needs to be some government awareness and action on the future jobs situation.

The "market" is leading us into the mess, and shows no signs of being able to fix it.

 

[CanOz]

Listen to you lot....

 

[SirRumpole]

Listen to you lot....

What's eating you ?

 

[Tisme]

What's eating you ?

A box of bah humbugs?

There is a reason good bosses never call their employees over the xmas period. .. the chance of being told insulting things is high as are resignations.

 

[dutchie]

Lack of jobs will not be our downfall. But laziness will.

 

[Smurf1976]

Looking at the long term trend it seems pretty clear to me that lower skilled jobs are diminishing and we’ve now got people far more highly qualified relative to what they’re doing.

A couple of generations ago if you didn’t have a job but needed one then just put your name down with a few factories and pretty soon at least a basic manual job would be offered. Or join the public service if you wanted an office job. If all else failed then at least taxi driving was still considered a reasonable, respectable job and paid enough to live on.

Very different now when even a degree doesn’t guarantee anything in terms of employment.

There are jobs available certainly but the trend is pretty clear in my opinion.

 

[SirRumpole]

Very different now when even a degree doesn’t guarantee anything in terms of employment.

That's because universities keep offering degrees even when there is an oversupply of graduates for those courses. The only alternative for a lot of graduates is to seek work overseas which is obviously not good for us as it's a waste of our investment. I'm not sure if they even have to repay their HECS if they are working OS.

 

[SirRumpole]

Getting sacked by a robot, without your boss knowing about it.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-08-14/ibrahim-diallo-man-who-was-fired-by-a-machine-law-ai/10083194

 

[CanOz]

Times are a changing...oh wait, they always have changed....

 

[SirRumpole]

Times are a changing...oh wait, they always have changed....

Not always for the better...