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dutchie · 19 October 2012

IFocus said:
Quote of the year from Abbott if Australia cannot beat Luxembourg the goverment should give up.

Guess who came second beating Finland, guess what Abbott knows about diplomacy......0........turn back the boats really.

From: http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2012/10/18/267480/5-new-states-awarded-unsc-seats/

Non-permanent seats on the United Nations Security Council (UNSC) are awarded to five new countries for a two-year-long stint.

On Thursday, Rwanda, Argentina, Australia, South Korea, and Luxembourg each won a seat on the 15-member council for the January 2013-December 2014 term, AFP reported. Cambodia, Bhutan, and Finland were denied.

Rwanda had won 148 votes, Australia 140, Argentina 182, South Korea 149, and Luxembourg 131. At least 129 votes were needed from among the 193 UN General Assembly member states for a country to win a Security Council seat.

Australia 140 votes Luxembourg 131 votes

In mathematics speak 140>131

Yes, real bad call Tony

pixel · 19 October 2012

I wonder what the Labor-bashing brigade would've said if a Lib/Nat gov'mint had succeeded.
FFS - give our elected government some credit for increasing Australia's recognition Internationally!

Sure, they've made some blunders, most of them brought about by nutters and do-gooders on the Utopian fringe. But if you want representative democracy, you have to accept that a sufficient number of Australians voted for Milne, Hanson-Young, Katter, Joyce... and not enough for rational leaders of either persuasion.

So, take a bow, Australia; the UN may not be as relevant and effective as it could and should be, but it offers the ability to publicly present our views. Given that the tenure extends well past the next election, I hope that our next government won't make a mess of the opportunity.

Miss Hale · 19 October 2012

Aussiejeff said:
According to Bob Catarrh on ABC news radio this am, Australia won the seat based on it's fair and peaceful society, wonderful cities, etc etc. Call me cynical, but maybe it was spending AU$25M that got the job done?

So, based on Catarrh's reasoning, that's why Rwanda also got a seat, eh? Fair & peaceful society & wonderful cities too huh? http://www.aljazeera.com/news/africa/2012/10/20121018175059955706.html

Can anyone tell me how much the peace loving Rwandans spent on bribing the UN compared to our wonderful Bob Catarrh's bid?

Oh well, AU$25M for a temp 2 year jump seat at the UN circus. A snip at the price. LOL

Wonder how much it will cost to get another 2 year gig after that? Gotta love our pollies. So much responsibility shown.

Sounds more like FIFA than the UN

Calliope · 19 October 2012

By Gillard's high standards The Indian Prime Minister is a misogynist.

IFocus · 19 October 2012

dutchie said:
From: http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2012/10/18/267480/5-new-states-awarded-unsc-seats/

Australia 140 votes Luxembourg 131 votes

In mathematics speak 140>131

Yes, real bad call Tony

AAh think the Luxembourg number is from a 2nd round against Finland (there are only 193 members) that makes Abbott's call even further below par still with his track record its what we will get when he is PM

IFocus · 19 October 2012

pixel said:
I wonder what the Labor-bashing brigade would've said if a Lib/Nat gov'mint had succeeded.
FFS - give our elected government some credit for increasing Australia's recognition Internationally!

Sure, they've made some blunders, most of them brought about by nutters and do-gooders on the Utopian fringe. But if you want representative democracy, you have to accept that a sufficient number of Australians voted for Milne, Hanson-Young, Katter, Joyce... and not enough for rational leaders of either persuasion.

So, take a bow, Australia; the UN may not be as relevant and effective as it could and should be, but it offers the ability to publicly present our views. Given that the tenure extends well past the next election, I hope that our next government won't make a mess of the opportunity.

Regard less of the tasteless politics (particularly about the cost) having a seat at the big table is very important as China expands its muscle with our Asian neighbours and we get sucked into Afghanistan type wars.

dutchie · 19 October 2012

IFocus said:
AAh think the Luxembourg number is from a 2nd round against Finland (there are only 193 members) that makes Abbott's call even further below par still with his track record its what we will get when he is PM

I think you might be right, Luxembourgs' 131 forward,somersault, twist in the Pike Position beats Australias' 140 easily.

Even if Abbott gets 999 out of 1000 decisions wrong it will still be a vast improvement over the wankers running the country at the moment.

Julia · 19 October 2012

I can't actually think of too many negatives for Australia having a temporary seat at the UN.

Does anyone know how it actually works? Do we presently have an ambassador to the UN who will fill the role?
Is someone new appointed? Is this the role our Kev has been angling for? Would it compensate him for not regaining the PM position?

McLovin · 19 October 2012

Julia said:
Does anyone know how it actually works? Do we presently have an ambassador to the UN who will fill the role?
Is someone new appointed?

Yes. The current Australian Ambassador to the UN will continue in that role and represent Australia at the UNSC.

Julia · 19 October 2012

Thanks, McLovin

Mr Gary Quinlan
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Ambassador and Permanent Representative to the United Nations, New York
Biography

Since 2007 until his current appointment as Ambassador and Permanent Representative to the United Nations, Mr Quinlan was the Senior Advisor to the Prime Minister on Foreign Affairs, Defence, and National Security.

Mr Quinlan joined the then Department of Foreign Affairs in 1973 and has served in several senior positions in the Department in Canberra including First Assistant Secretary, Consular, Public Diplomacy and Parliamentary Affairs Division (2007) and First Assistant Secretary, Americas and Europe Division (2000-01). He was Head of the Australian Delegation to the Law of the Sea Preparatory Commission from 1987 until 1988.

Mr Quinlan's overseas assignments have been as Deputy Head of Mission, Australian Embassy Washington DC (2005-07); High Commissioner to Singapore (2001-05); First Secretary, Australian Mission to the United Nations, New York (1981-85); Australian Deputy Permanent Delegate to UNESCO, Paris (1979-81); and Second Secretary in Dublin (1974-77). He was attached to the Economic Development Institute, World Bank in Washington D.C. (1984).

Mr Quinlan also served as Chief of Staff to the Minister for Trade (1993-94) and to the Minister for Industry, Science and Technology (1994-96).

Mr Quinlan was educated at the University of Newcastle and holds a Bachelor of Arts degree with honours. He also holds the honorary degree of Doctor of Letters (Hon DLitt Newc, 2007).

noco · 19 October 2012

Julia said:
I can't actually think of too many negatives for Australia having a temporary seat at the UN.

Does anyone know how it actually works? Do we presently have an ambassador to the UN who will fill the role?
Is someone new appointed? Is this the role our Kev has been angling for? Would it compensate him for not regaining the PM position?

Julia, our Kevvie had his eye on the UN Secretary General's job until Banki Ki Moon decided to extend his term for another 5 years.

Rudd would not have been able to accept the UN Secretary General's job had he been Prime Minister.

I leave you to figure out the rest. Yes, it all went from bad to worse with he and Gillard.

joea · 19 October 2012

I will accept the criticism that I said that I would not contribute to this forum anymore.!
However I do read it.
I could not help myself.
If KRudd was given the job on the UN, then Jules has used $25 million of taxpayers money to
get rid of Kevin for her second shot at the title.!!!!!
Gee, you are so slow!!!
joea

MrBurns · 19 October 2012

joea said:
I will accept the criticism that I said that I would not contribute to this forum anymore.!
However I do read it.
I could not help myself.
If KRudd was given the job on the UN, then Jules has used $25 million of taxpayers money to
get rid of Kevin for her second shot at the title.!!!!!
Gee, you are so slow!!!
joea

The rest of us work our guts out while these parasites live the high life.

Rudd would love to be at the UN he could write essays and generally wallow in his own perceived importance at our expense.

joea · 19 October 2012

MrBurns said:
The rest of us work our guts out while these parasites live the high life.

Rudd would love to be at the UN he could write essays and generally wallow in his own perceived importance at our expense.

You got it right Mr. Burns
joea

IFocus · 19 October 2012

joea said:
I will accept the criticism that I said that I would not contribute to this forum anymore.!

No criticism from me Joea, fire away....... welcome back

Julia · 19 October 2012

joea said:
I will accept the criticism that I said that I would not contribute to this forum anymore.!

What criticism? I don't remember reading your announcing that you would not contribute any more.

McLovin has advised that the role at the UN will be taken by our present Ambassador to the UN who (on reading his bio) seems well qualified for the position.
Hard to imagine that he would suddenly resign and the role be assigned to Mr Rudd, though I guess if they could do it to Harry Jenkins they can do it to a career diplomat.

sptrawler · 19 October 2012

Julia said:
What criticism? I don't remember reading your announcing that you would not contribute any more.

McLovin has advised that the role at the UN will be taken by our present Ambassador to the UN who (on reading his bio) seems well qualified for the position.
Hard to imagine that he would suddenly resign and the role be assigned to Mr Rudd, though I guess if they could do it to Harry Jenkins they can do it to a career diplomat.

Yes it's a bit like a scene from the "Pirates of the Carribean" just put Julia in the place of Davey Jones, on the 'Flying Dutchman'.
Throw them overboard, for the greater good.LOL

Well, that is unless you have some dirty underwear, then we keep you onboard. Lest you expose ours.LOL

drsmith · 19 October 2012

And how much taxpayers money was bribed as charity to other nations to buy this temporary seat on the UN ?

sptrawler · 20 October 2012

drsmith said:
And how much taxpayers money was bribed as charity to other nations to buy this temporary seat on the UN ?

Who cares, as long as it deflects the public eye from the main issues.

Ves · 20 October 2012

sptrawler said:
Who cares, as long as it deflects the public eye from the main issues.

Yeah, still waiting for the prophecy to come true and for the world to end. Perhaps it will happen when the Mayan calendar ends and Abbott will look like a genius?

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