The Gillard Government

joea · 29 March 2012

Well it was just a matter of time before the "worlds greatest treasurer", had to get out his calculator and see how the dollars were adding up.
We will have a little excitement with the local elections, then it will be over to Wayne with his May budget.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...ax-take-crumbles/story-fn59nsif-1226312971041

In the meantime he has been to a new optometrist, for another pair of "magic glasses"
to make the figures balance. If they do not, it will be Tony Abbott's fault, or even faulty batteries(in the calculator).

Can somebody contact Wayne please and refer him to Tech/a, so that he could get second opinion by VSA on the bar graph associated with the above link.
Or am I being premature, because Julia will be back soon and she will be full of answers to do "the right thing for Australia".

joea

Garpal Gumnut · 29 March 2012

IFocus said:
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Federal Labor have a secret weapon..........Abbott

IFocus,

No, I won't disillude you. You would then I take it, wager that the ALP will win the next election?

sails said:
Oh dear - that's what Qld alp thought about Newman...

Do you lefties ever learn from your mistakes?

The don't sails, mate. The ALP are so bereft of fresh blood that when some old timeserving fart like Bob Carr comes up with a mantra to reinforce the delusion, they run with it.

dutchie said:
Dear Federal Labor party please listen to this man - he knows what he is talking about.

Parts of the electorate that don't like Tony Abbott

1. Females
2. Male homosexuals (lesbians already covered in 1.)
3. Male Greens (females covered in 1.)
4. Young (but of voting age) males jealous of how Tony looks in budgie smugglers.
5. Male union members (female members covered in 1.)
6. All male non milllioniare's (female members covered in 1.)
7. All male non owners of any sort of business (female members covered in 1.)

This should ensure a landslide win for the Labor party as there are not many left to vote for Tony.

Conclusion - there is no need to change anything!

I was down in Sussex St. last week and that is their belief. Then again they never venture much past the Marina or the suburbs, and rarely see regional or rural Australia.

Listening or watching the ABC is not good preparation for assessing the mood of the electorate with a Federal Election about to be called.

Tony has been seen person to person by a significant percentage of the population on his nationwide visits.

gg

Logique · 29 March 2012

If we're to have the discussion about the supposed misogyny behind criticism of Julia Gillard, then let's have it in parallel with a full and frank disclosure of the rationale behind 'Abbott, Abbott, Abbott' chanting of Labor-Greens, repeated ad nauseam, though never fully explained.

As for me, I think Australian women have powers of critical thinking, analysis and deduction. They got it right on Anna Bligh, and they'll get it right on Julia Gillard.

IFocus · 29 March 2012

Garpal Gumnut said:
IFocus,

No, I won't disillude you. You would then I take it, wager that the ALP will win the next election?

gg

No I think they will be comprehensively beaten at the next poll but I would hope their numbers are such that they can mount an effective opposition unlike Queensland which now have all their eggs in one basket.

Thats a basket that comes very much unproven.

Most of the commentary I have read says Campbell Newman wont really make a whole lot of change in Queensland you simply don't have the means but some will at least feel good for a short time.

Look at WA where we have a Liberal / Nat government where living costs are going through the roof to a point where people earning $90K are winging about meeting the bills.

Garpal Gumnut · 29 March 2012

IFocus said:
No I think they will be comprehensively beaten at the next poll but I would hope their numbers are such that they can mount an effective opposition unlike Queensland which now have all their eggs in one basket.

Thats a basket that comes very much unproven.

Most of the commentary I have read says Campbell Newman wont really make a whole lot of change in Queensland you simply don't have the means but some will at least feel good for a short time.

Look at WA where we have a Liberal / Nat government where living costs are going through the roof to a point where people earning $90K are winging about meeting the bills.

I'm no expert on WA, so am unable to comment but can I comment on the ALP "wipeout".

In Queensland the state election in 2009 was stuffed up by the conservatives and the ALP got back in. We quickly became further disillusioned with the ALP, their sleazy bits and their selling off assets supposedly safe from sale.

So at this election we needed to make quite sure that the LNP got in. which we did.

Now federally we have a similar package. A result in 2010 that has the ALP/Green coalition.

You can bet your bottom dollar that everyone in Queensland will vote to ensure the worst result for the ALP and Greens in the next Federal election.

And given the lead that NSW and Queensland have given, I would not be surprised if the rest of the country votes similarly.

That is the democratic process.

The ALP will be history for a generation.

gg

sails · 29 March 2012

Garpal Gumnut said:
...The ALP will be history for a generation.

gg

IMO, it is entirely possible that Katter's party could be the next federal opposition as they could take votes from disillusioned labor and greens.

Julia · 29 March 2012

Garpal Gumnut said:
I'm no expert on WA, so am unable to comment but can I comment on the ALP "wipeout".

In Queensland the state election in 2009 was stuffed up by the conservatives and the ALP got back in. We quickly became further disillusioned with the ALP, their sleazy bits and their selling off assets supposedly safe from sale.

So at this election we needed to make quite sure that the LNP got in. which we did.

Now federally we have a similar package. A result in 2010 that has the ALP/Green coalition.

You can bet your bottom dollar that everyone in Queensland will vote to ensure the worst result for the ALP and Greens in the next Federal election.

And given the lead that NSW and Queensland have given, I would not be surprised if the rest of the country votes similarly.

That is the democratic process.

The ALP will be history for a generation.

gg

I hope so.
On Peter Costello and his appointment to audit for the Qld government, I see today he has also come out and roundly criticised Wayne Swan's determination to see a budget surplus, mocking Swan in the way he used to.

Can we maybe hope that he has been sitting back, watching the national situation, and is now judging the time to be right to start making a political come back?
It's a bit over a year to the Federal election. This would be about right for him to continue sniping from the sidelines. Then the pollsters start once again asking the electorate "who would you want as Prime Minister: Gillard, Abbott, Costello?"

I reckon there would be a big part of the electorate who would plump for Costello:
Tony Abbott is unlikely to ever become really popular, so wouldn't the Libs be up for having another go at persuading Mr Costello to return as Leader?

Campbell Newman has demonstrated that one can become leader from outside of the parliament.

Maybe this is just wishful thinking on my part.

drsmith · 29 March 2012

IFocus said:
Look at WA where we have a Liberal / Nat government where living costs are going through the roof to a point where people earning $90K are winging about meeting the bills.

Are they the same bills that Labor kept artifically low while in office, such as electricity ?

Also, who divided Western Power into 4 or 5 different whatevers with all the administrative cost of creating that many bureaucracies from what was originally one ?

Actualy IF, I feel sorry for you.

How are you going to watch the federal ALP ship slowly sink over the next year or so and keep that bottom lip up ?

Ferret · 30 March 2012

Julia said:
Maybe this is just wishful thinking on my part.

I'll dream along with you, Julia.

As far as Swan goes, I actually feel some pity for him over this. He was probably stupid to ever promise the surplus, but if he backed away from it now he would be crucified by the opposition. Politics - bah!!!

joea · 30 March 2012

Ferret said:
As far as Swan goes, I actually feel some pity for him over this. He was probably stupid to ever promise the surplus, but if he backed away from it now he would be crucified by the opposition. Politics - bah!!!

I hear on the grape vine that Labor have popped down to Bunnings and purchased a tonne of "Damp Rid" to help prevent soaking up the carpets and window curtains, for Wayne Swan's media speeches on the lead up to, and the Budget disclosures.

joea

rumpole · 30 March 2012

Ferret said:
As far as Swan goes, I actually feel some pity for him over this. He was probably stupid to ever promise the surplus, but if he backed away from it now he would be crucified by the opposition. Politics - bah!!!

It was Costello that stuck us with the multi billion dollar black hole called the baby bonus. That's the first thing Swan should get rid of.

IFocus · 30 March 2012

drsmith said:
Are they the same bills that Labor kept artifically low while in office, such as electricity ?

Also, who divided Western Power into 4 or 5 different whatevers with all the administrative cost of creating that many bureaucracies from what was originally one ?

Actualy IF, I feel sorry for you.

How are you going to watch the federal ALP ship slowly sink over the next year or so and keep that bottom lip up ?

Actually it was the Liberals that run down our infrastructure using the utilities as a cash registrar to prop up their budgets, both sides have blown it, similar story around Australia still doesn't take away the fact that its under Barnett that we have run away price rises with the greatest boom every seen in the state.

All that and I still cannot go and watch the WCE at a descent stadium.

You lot will end up with Abbott now thats some thing to be sorry about.

And as for Costello I have changed my mind about his greatness, his articles that he writes continue to be some of the most shallow trash ever Julie Bishop can string together better pieces.

Keating was right Costello and Howard were just a couple of mugs that got lucky

drsmith · 31 March 2012

Paul Keating is now prepared to publically aknowledge the writing on the wall.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...ith-middle-class/story-fn59niix-1226313619206

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...gs-timely-advice/story-e6frg71x-1226314878609

sails · 31 March 2012

rumpole said:
It was Costello that stuck us with the multi billion dollar black hole called the baby bonus. That's the first thing Swan should get rid of.

And why hasn't he? They are trying to tax the hell out of this country with a carbon tax and yet pay women for unlimited babies?

If labor really believe that the environment is an issue, over population is something that needs to be addressed, imo. That's if they really do have any concerns about the environment. Any concern labor seem to have is about how to steal more money from workers, imo.

And, with unlimited baby bonuses, who is to say that boat arrivals are not breeding like rabbits? All at our expense? And yet they are supposedly fleeing from countries where they are already overcrowded? And then they want to bring the very laws they have supposedly fled from to Australia? And labor keeps supporting all this?

I do think baby bonuses should be restricted or at least given on a prorata basis and maybe cutting out entirely by baby number three.

sails · 31 March 2012

drsmith said:
Paul Keating is now prepared to publically aknowledge the writing on the wall.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...ith-middle-class/story-fn59niix-1226313619206

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...gs-timely-advice/story-e6frg71x-1226314878609

And from the ABC Labor's seven deadly sins

and this from the Australian - yep, Bill Hayden:

BILL Hayden was the last man standing when Labor crashed in Queensland at the 1975 federal election. Now the former ALP leader and governor-general has declared that Australia's oldest political party may have "had its time".

The message was rammed home to him this week when he climbed into a taxi and the driver spat out his disgust with the ALP over its shattering defeat at last Saturday's state election.

Read more if registered: Hayden fears Labor's time has passed

Logique · 3 April 2012

About right I reckon. We all know it. Labor has become captive of an urban elite, union secretaries and back office careerists.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...pm-julia-gillard/story-fn7q4q9f-1226315932327
Mark Latham's lament on 'liar' PM Julia Gillard by: Staff Writer From: The Daily Telegraph April 02, 2012

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...pm-julia-gillard/story-fn7q4q9f-1226315932327
LABOR can't go to an election with Julia Gillard as leader and needs to install a "non-liar" into the post, former leader Mark Latham said yesterday.
Raising talk of leadership change only weeks after Ms Gillard beat a challenge from Kevin Rudd, Mr Latham believes there is no way the party would stick with Ms Gillard.

"Well, the only option for the Labor Party is to bring in a non-liar as prime minister," he told Sky TV's Australian Agenda. "And inevitably, as certain as night follows day, they will change leaders before the next election.

"They can't possibly go to the next poll with Gillard. I mean, there's no way of unscrambling the egg, having broken an important election promise like this."

Mr Latham said that aside from structural problems within the ALP, which led to the Queensland election loss, the party needed to heed lessons about the broken carbon tax promise: "There is absolutely no margin for lying."

rumpole · 3 April 2012

"They can't possibly go to the next poll with Gillard. I mean, there's no way of unscrambling the egg, having broken an important election promise like this."

Yes, it's probably their only hope to change leaders, if the polls this time next year are just as bad.

The problem is to find a credible alternative. I don't believe it's Rudd, despite his supposed electoral popularity, he has too much baggage.

Smith or Swan are the only two I can see who have some credibility. If Swan brings the budget into surplus (which is a dubious goal economically anyway), he will improve his position, even though his charisma factor is non existent. That didn't stop Howard though.

He can always say he tried to talk Julia out of the carbon tax.

MrBurns · 3 April 2012

rumpole said:
Yes, it's probably their only hope to change leaders, if the polls this time next year are just as bad.

The problem is to find a credible alternative. I don't believe it's Rudd, despite his supposed electoral popularity, he has too much baggage.

Smith or Swan are the only two I can see who have some credibility. If Swan brings the budget into surplus (which is a dubious goal economically anyway), he will improve his position, even though his charisma factor is non existent. That didn't stop Howard though.

He can always say he tried to talk Julia out of the carbon tax.

Swans a goose, no pun intended, and Smith is weak.

There's actualy no one on the front bench that's suitable.

Their only hope is to bring Rudd back at the last minute to capture the moment before people realise they didnt like him either.

Logique · 3 April 2012

I'd put Bill Shorten in tomorrow. Not because I'm a fan, but because he couldn't do any worse, and he might just grow into the job and win some people over. He needs enough time to do that.

The QLD election must have snuffed out any remaining hope that voters will forgive and forget with the incumbent PM.

MrBurns · 3 April 2012

Logique said:
I'd put Bill Shorten in tomorrow. .

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