Hence the considerable movement to the Greens who at least appear to stand for something.
Now if the media would just apply the same blow torch to the Greens' policies and ask them for the same level of explanations that they do with the two major parties, some of that default to Greens vote would fall away, as people understand their policies are not costed (or if they are the budget would blow out beyond belief), and that their 'feel good' environmental stuff masks a heavily socialist agenda.
As above, that's simply not true. The Coalition won the primary vote.
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Labors next broken promise, can add it to the long list of failures and broken promises the Gillard government is now looking worse than Rudd for example Rudd didn't know his policys would all be a disaster yet Gillard is going ahead with the same incompetent ideas Rudd went for, knowing they ended badly.
http://www.smh.com.au/national/population-boom-inevitable-pm-told-20101113-17rtz.html
We'll respectfully disagree considering the comments on this thread and others. I note a Pro-Hanson thread has sprung up as wellWhere does this "far right" thing come from. I don't see any fascists around here.
Would probably expose the spectrum of ideas from the good to the ludicrous (fixing/legislating bank rates would be a disaster IMO).Now if the media would just apply the same blow torch to the Greens' policies and ask them for the same level of explanations that they do with the two major parties, some of that default to Greens vote would fall away, as people understand their policies are not costed (or if they are the budget would blow out beyond belief), and that their 'feel good' environmental stuff masks a heavily socialist agenda.
We'll respectfully disagree considering the comments on this thread and others. I note a Pro-Hanson thread has sprung up as well
We'll respectfully disagree considering the comments on this thread and others. I note a Pro-Hanson thread has sprung up as well
WayneL, are you new to this site? Anyone who doesn't sit on the right hand side of Ganghis Khan is labelled a sociallistYou will have to be comfortable with those of the left being termed Stalinists, Trotskyites and Socialist bastids then.
Just to even things up a little.:
(Actually, that's probably not too far from the truth)
Nope, but it seems enough people believe this stuff to make demonising "boat people" a vote winner.The following came through on email so don't know if it is factual. If it is, there is something very wrong and would give further reason for the boats to keep coming. How can they need another $145 per week for hardship is beyond me and Aussie battlers and homeless would be absolutely fuming.
Does anyone know how to verify if these facts true?
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Anyone want to work out effective marginal tax rates after taking all the following into account ?I'm very sure it is not factual. Alan Jones got busted airing the same stuff last year. Seems to be part of the same crap where the government name is changed to match the country.
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Yep, various versions of this mischievous stuff have been circulating on the internet for a couple of years.I'm very sure it is not factual. Alan Jones got busted airing the same stuff last year. Seems to be part of the same crap where the government name is changed to match the country.
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That might be over-simplifying the reasons why so many are unhappy about these people, Mofra.Nope, but it seems enough people believe this stuff to make demonising "boat people" a vote winner.
I think that's right. However, they're housed, frequently in motels, given medical and dental care. There is some reasonably understandable resentment in the community that our own homeless people don't have access to the same resources.As I understand it until refugee status is granted they get nothing in allowances/support.
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