The Gillard Government

Logique · 10 March 2012

Sailsy, after the election I'd see it as PM Abbott, and Treasurer Turnbull. Malcolm has shown a bit more discipline lately. Too much talent to be ignored.

No disrespect is meant for Joe Hockey, a good soldier, and will make a good Foreign Minister. I doubt that the delegates at the UN will mind the transition from the present Foreign Minister for America.

Julia · 10 March 2012

Logique said:
No disrespect is meant for Joe Hockey, a good soldier, and will make a good Foreign Minister.

Goodness, do you really think so? I'd have thought he's decidedly lacking in diplomatic skills.

I doubt that the delegates at the UN will mind the transition from the present Foreign Minister for America.

Did you listen to Patrick Cook's remarks (via Counterpoint of yesterday) about the (non) value of Mr Carr as Foreign Minister. Pretty funny.
http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/counterpoint/patrick-cook/3857558

sptrawler · 10 March 2012

Love him or hate him, but Tony has a way of getting on the governments achilles heel.
He is a real pain in the ar$e for the government, doesn't get side tracked onto their agenda. Just highlights their problems, he is doing a great job IMO.
Don't know how he will go if he becomes P.M.

But Howard was doing a great job and we wanted change. So why not have change when they are doing a crap job.LOL

http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/polit...el-dont-want-smith-abbott-20120310-1uqvd.html

joea · 11 March 2012

Word of the day..Ineptocracy....

A system of government where the least capable to lead are elected by the least capable of producing, and where the members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed, are rewarded with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a diminishing number of producers.

joea

MrBurns · 11 March 2012

joea said:
Word of the day..Ineptocracy....

A system of government where the least capable to lead are elected by the least capable of producing, and where the members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed, are rewarded with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a diminishing number of producers.

joea

Got it in one

rumpole · 11 March 2012

joea said:
Word of the day..Ineptocracy....

A system of government where the least capable to lead are elected by the least capable of producing, and where the members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed, are rewarded with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a diminishing number of producers.

joea

Indeed. We can only hope that inept people with $70 billion black holes in their budgets don't get elected.

sptrawler · 11 March 2012

rumpole said:
Indeed. We can only hope that inept people with $70 billion black holes in their budgets don't get elected.

Yes we hope the inept ones who dug the hole get re elected, like that would make sense.

rumpole · 11 March 2012

sptrawler said:
Yes we hope the inept ones who dug the hole get re elected, like that would make sense.

What hole ? Compared with us most other countries are at the bottom of the Mariana trench.

MrBurns · 11 March 2012

Ahhhhh it's just like home

rumpole · 11 March 2012

MrBurns said:
Ahhhhh it's just like home

Indeed. Just putting my feet up and relaxing Trumpy old chap !

startrader · 11 March 2012

rumpole said:
What hole ? Compared with us most other countries are at the bottom of the Mariana trench.

Well we'll be fast joining them at the rate this basket case of a government is getting us into debt.

When Labor were voted in under Rudd we had no debt and a surplus of over $20 billion, whereas we now have a 37 billion deficit. We are borrowing $100 million per day and now owe over $200 billion, an amount which is increasing at a fast rate every day. The interest alone on this money which we have to pay back is $100 billion. All for what? Just so we can watch it being grossly mismanaged and wasted!

rumpole · 11 March 2012

startrader said:
Well we'll be fast joining them at the rate this basket case of a government is getting us into debt.

When Labor were voted in under Rudd we had no debt and a surplus of over $20 billion, whereas we now have a 37 billion deficit. We are borrowing $100 million per day and now owe over $200 billion, an amount which is increasing at a fast rate every day. The interest alone on this money which we have to pay back is $100 billion. All for what? Just so we can watch it being grossly mismanaged and wasted!

I suppose you are going to bring up pink batts and school halls ? At least they are assets we didn't have before, and which kept people in work and the money flowing in the economy.

If you want to bring up waste and mismanagement, consider the baby bonus, a socialist nanny state handout from Peter Costello costing us billions or Tony Abbott's great big new tax on business to pay for maternity leave, another nanny state socialist proposal from a so called Conservative. (or is he a coconut, hard on the outside , soft and squishy inside ?)

sptrawler · 11 March 2012

rumpole said:
I suppose you are going to bring up pink batts and school halls ? At least they are assets we didn't have before, and which kept people in work and the money flowing in the economy.

If you want to bring up waste and mismanagement, consider the baby bonus, a socialist nanny state handout from Peter Costello costing us billions or Tony Abbott's great big new tax on business to pay for maternity leave, another nanny state socialist proposal from a so called Conservative. (or is he a coconut, hard on the outside , soft and squishy inside ?)

Why encourage Australians to have more kids, just import more people or better still bring them in through Christmas Island like Bob and Julia do.LOL
Lets not get into great big new taxes, labor have to introduce them to back fill the great big spending hole. There is still a mountain of batts sitting rotting in a yard in a Perth suburb.LOL,,LOL
I wonder what Bob is going to get Julia to do next, magic government.

Yep after 4 years of mismanagement we are going to hopefully spend less than we make next year, at last. It has taken a while, but hey everyone knew from last time, we are not the best money managers. Cut us some slack.LOL,LOL

IFocus · 11 March 2012

sptrawler said:
Lets not get into great big new taxes, labor have to introduce them to back fill the great big spending hole.

Yep after 4 years of mismanagement we are going to hopefully spend less than we make next year, at last. It has taken a while, but hey everyone knew from last time, we are not the best money managers. Cut us some slack.LOL,LOL

Federal Government Budget Structural Deficit

The issue is falling revenue as pointed out on the insiders the problem is structural and if Swan cuts to the degree required to make it to surplus then that will be the biggest in the history of Australian government.

How do you think that will turn out for those weak growth rate states like SA, TAS, NSW and VIC.

Be careful what you wish for the Eastern States mind you us in WA should be just fine.:

Julia · 11 March 2012

rumpole said:
I suppose you are going to bring up pink batts and school halls ? At least they are assets we didn't have before, and which kept people in work and the money flowing in the economy.

If you want to bring up waste and mismanagement, consider the baby bonus, a socialist nanny state handout from Peter Costello costing us billions or Tony Abbott's great big new tax on business to pay for maternity leave, another nanny state socialist proposal from a so called Conservative. (or is he a coconut, hard on the outside , soft and squishy inside ?)

So may we conclude that you're entirely happy with the present government?

You are under no obligation to answer this, of course, but have you ever voted other than Labor?

rumpole · 11 March 2012

Julia said:
So may we conclude that you're entirely happy with the present government?

You are under no obligation to answer this, of course, but have you ever voted other than Labor?

Of course I'm not entirely happy with the Labor government, and I certainly wouldn't be entirely happy with a Liberal government either.

If the Howard government had invested their gains in infrastructure like rail and power stations instead of expecting the private sector to do something that they never have I may well have voted for them.

But both parties have lost the plot, surrendered to the globalisation con job and are trying to out Conservative each other . There is no real choice, but Labor may at least do something about our run down infrastructure.

sptrawler · 11 March 2012

rumpole said:
Of course I'm not entirely happy with the Labor government, and I certainly wouldn't be entirely happy with a Liberal government either.

If the Howard government had invested their gains in infrastructure like rail and power stations instead of expecting the private sector to do something that they never have I may well have voted for them.

What do you mean, invest in infrastructure after they finished paying off the $90 billion debt they inherited from the last labor government.

Very similar to what is happening again this time, this labor government has gone from no debt to $200billion+.
Maybe Rumpole you can enlighten me on what infrastructure they have put in, with all that spending?
Then when the coalition get in and pay down the labor debt, again, you will be able to bag them for not putting in infrastructure.
Jeez you should sit down and have a think about your logic.

rumpole · 11 March 2012

sptrawler said:
What do you mean, invest in infrastructure after they finished paying off the $90 billion debt they inherited from the last labor government.

Very similar to what is happening again this time, this labor government has gone from no debt to $200billion+.
Maybe Rumpole you can enlighten me on what infrastructure they have put in, with all that spending?
Then when the coalition get in and pay down the labor debt, again, you will be able to bag them for not putting in infrastructure.
Jeez you should sit down and have a think about your logic.

What infrastructure ? The NBN for one.

Costello and Howard bragged about a $20 billion surplus and no debt and what did they do with it ? Wasted it on a nanny state socialist baby bonus instead of replacing tired power stations and related infrastructure. The result of not doing that is that power prices are now on the way up. If you don't have relatively cheap and reliable power supplies how can you get investment ? Narrow thinking.

sptrawler · 11 March 2012

rumpole said:
What infrastructure ? The NBN for one.

Costello and Howard bragged about a $20 billion surplus and no debt and what did they do with it ? Wasted it on a nanny state socialist baby bonus instead of replacing tired power stations and related infrastructure. The result of not doing that is that power prices are now on the way up. If you don't have relatively cheap and reliable power supplies how can you get investment ? Narrow thinking.

Mate they haven't started paying for the NBN yet.
So what infrastructure have we got for the $200 billion already spent.LOL

Relatively cheap and reliable power supplies, the carbon tax is going to shoot that out of the water.
Since when has the federal government put in power stations, I think you'll find that is a state government function.LOL
Rumpole can you give me some of whatever your smoking.

By the way what did Costello and Howard do with the $20billion, they didn't waste it. Rudd and the goon show inherited it, then they wasted it and heaps more.LOL

MrBurns · 11 March 2012

rumpole said:
Of course I'm not entirely happy with the Labor government, and I certainly wouldn't be entirely happy with a Liberal government either.

If the Howard government had invested their gains in infrastructure like rail and power stations instead of expecting the private sector to do something that they never have I may well have voted for them.

But both parties have lost the plot, surrendered to the globalisation con job and are trying to out Conservative each other . There is no real choice, but Labor may at least do something about our run down infrastructure.

Rumpy meet Julia, I think you'll get along just fine

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