If it was that easy everyone would have one, the issue is time taken to charge the battery, distance the battery can propel the car and how long the battery will last, before it requires replacing.I don't see this issue with infrastructure.....isn't it just plugging the car into a power socket?
This all seems to be getting a bit defeatist.
the issue is time taken to charge the battery, distance the battery can propel the car and how long the battery will last, before it requires replacing.
If it was that easy everyone would have one, the issue is time taken to charge the battery, distance the battery can propel the car and how long the battery will last, before it requires replacing.
When those problems are solved, EV's are a winner.
At this point in time H2 fuel cells, have more scope for development. Just my opinion.
So what is your plan for generating the power to charge these vehicles ?
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How much extra will be required ? How much will it cost ? How many more power stations do we need to build ?
I don't think you have thought it all through, if you had you would have realised that hybrids are a better way to go. They generate their own electricity which means owners are not dependent on finding a charging station,
People seem to equate electric vehicle infrastructure with just adding a few power points here and there.
Expecting renewables to carry that load is wishful thinking imo.
There is already quite a lot of spare capacity in the network,
Teslas model 3 will get a bit over 400KM's per charge. (heaps especially when you wake up ever morning with a full charge)
The Battery will last longer than the expected life of the vehicle.
Long distance driving possible with 20 min chargers on the super charge network.
I don't think you have been reading Surf's comments about the shaky state of our generating system. A lot of it is falling apart at the seams and is ready to be retired with little sign of replacement. A massive investment will be required to satisfy current demand without considering the extra load of EV's.
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Power prices are going through the roof now, I'd hate to be charging my car every night as well
Expecting renewables to carry that load is wishful thinking imo.
If Germany can be 100% renewable for domestic supply now on a sunny day, I wouldn't want to be betting on it not being achievable in 10-20 years in a country bathed in sunshine like Australia.
When we have enough installed renewable energy capacity, in our electrical grid network, there will be an excess capacity for a majority of the time as happens now.
Then that excess capacity can be used to produce hydrogen, which in turn is a ultra clean fuel, that can be used in all forms of transport.
Thats not because the gris is impractical or because there is a lack of people willing to make longterm investments, it's because there is a lack clarity in the future Penalities that a volatile government / public will want to put on fossil fuels.
What is crazy is the two opposing arguments are being used against the grid.
1, People say that roof top solar is going to kill demand for the grid longterm, which will raise the cost of the grid due to the high fixed costs being spread among less people due to lower utilisation rates
2, People say EV's will cause such high demand for the grid that the grid won't cope and the high utilisation will cause prices to rise.
Now, which is it?
I think it is somewhere right down the middle.
1, Roof top solar and more efficient techs will reduce conventional demand on external generation sources
2, EV's will gradually come in and fill this gap bringing on more demand, at flexible usage times, meaning grid generators can use their latent capacity more effectively spreading fixed costs across more consumers.
3, Grid Batteries/ other storage, will allow the grid to cope with peak loads, while maintaining smaller generating capacity, and outside "peak" season the batteries can pay for themselves by time of day arbitrage of electricity sales and purchases.
I think it is somewhere right down the middle.
You are far better just using that electricity to charge batteries.
The amount of electricity it would take to produce the Hydrogen to just run one vehicle, is roughly the amount of electricity it would take to charge 3 EV's.
Not to mention the storage and transport of the hydrogen via tanker trucks and service stations.
Could you explain that ? Solar cells on top of vehicles perhaps, unless they are parked in underground car parks.
Of course the other issue is left over product, with batteries there is still a waste of resources, in the manufacture and when it has finished its usefull life. ( I know they recycle, but that isn't 100% efficient either).
With hydrogen, the only left over by product is water, it just makes absolute sense in the longer term, when it can be produced with excess renewable energy.
Value Collector said:EV's not limited to any only fuel source, Solar, Wind, Geothermal, Hydro, Coal, Natural gas, Nuclear, bio mass, wave power, crude oil you name it, EV's can run on it, and they use it more efficiently than other designs, its only limited by the amount of infrastructure we build, not anyone natural resource.
I have a Tesla Model 3 Reservation, Probably won't get it till the end of next year. The first model 3 destined for consumers only rolled off the production line on Friday, and there are about 400,000 reservations in front of me.You have bought an EV I take it ?
EV charging wastes time, EV's are less environmentally sound
I have a Tesla Model 3 Reservation, Probably won't get it till the end of next year. The first model 3 destined for consumers only rolled off the production line on Friday, and there are about 400,000 reservations in front of me.
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