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The future of energy generation and storage

it is make or break the way we are going.
Very true.

From the Tasmanian perspective we've been there before.

First was back in 1914. Private enterprise had built a couple of tiny hydro plants (1.5 MW between them) to run mines and the locally very significant Mt Lyell Mining & Railway Company was building the more substantial Lake Margaret scheme at 4.8 MW and designed for expansion. Launceston City Council had Duck Reach, that was the only public involvement in the industry at that time, and the then Hydro-Electric Power and Metallurgical Company had run out of money trying to build the Great Lake scheme plus the zinc works in Hobart plus a carbide factory.

And so despite all manner of warnings from the Australian Government, Tasmania took the plunge and jumped in head first in 1914 by setting up the Hydro as Australia's first state owned electricity utility. Nobody at that time likely understood what the state had just embarked upon but it all worked out in the end. That gave the privately owned HEPMCo enough $ to finish building their factories whilst the state took over the power supply.

A steep learning curve ensued. Just two years later Tasmania, with it's small population, no real experience and limited resources had Waddamana power station working and was running one of the longest transmission systems anywhere in the world (we think it was actually the longest but it's hard to confirm that). Just 12 months later the power station had doubled in size, another 2 years and it had doubled again as had the grid with the Launceston system now part of what was fast becoming a state-wide grid.

That was the first effort - either get this electricity caper up and running or be left behind. Thank heavens it worked. It scared the absolute **** out of Victoria from an economic perspective, their response being to set up the SECV.

For the record in due course Lake Margaret was indeed expanded and has since been acquired by the Hydro. Launceston's scheme was also sold to Hydro but ultimately replaced by the much larger Trevallyn station in 1955.

Then came the Great Depression which gave rise to the second effort which became universally known as hydro-industrialisation. Build dams and power stations which creates work, sell the power to industry to create more work, build more power stations and establish more industries. Rinse and repeat. That worked fine until Victoria built Hazelwood and started luring industry with cheap power, interest rates went up which isn't favourable to capital-intensive hydro power, the Australian economy started a long term move away from manufacturing and of course the environmental debates although the wheels were already falling off by that time.

And now there's the third major opportunity. Vic and SA are stuffed so far as energy is concerned and NSW is fast heading the same way. Qld has volume but it's not cheap. WA is better placed but it's less of a direct competitor due to both distance and not being linked to the other states either electrically or with gas.

Meanwhile down here we've got identified tidal, wind and of course hydro plus at least some chance of doing something with geothermal - the resource is there and unlike SA it's not in the middle of nowhere.

So it's the same problem as always. If we can do it cheap enough then there's a huge potential gain economically but the key is "cheap".

That's nothing new by the way. It was recognised at least as far back as the late 1920's that there were two options when it came to energy. Do it cheap or don't do it at all. The state removed the Hydro from direct political control and put business people and engineers in charge for that exact reason - it was recognised that politics was a barrier to efficiency and that getting costs down was an imperative. It was reported in those terms though the media at the time - it was very clearly understood that we had to compete internationally.

I've mentioned some very old stuff and there's a reason for that. None of the major issues are new.

Victoria and SA had competing private firms supplying electricity a century ago just as they do now. Yes, there was a crisis back then with failure to invest in new generating plant to use locally available resources. Nothing new there at all.

Political interference in the industry was a problem too, hence why the Tas government removed itself from that back in 1930. Again there's nothing new.

The need to manage demand to drive costs down is also not new. Launceston City Council was doing that back in the 1890's so over 120 years ago. The methods may well have been primative but the concept was well understood and applied to the extent technology allowed.

The need to be competitive is also nothing new indeed it has never been any different.

So technology has changed as have attitudes toward the environment but the fundamental economics of the power industry is much the same now as it was more than a century ago. Noting new at all really in that sense. :2twocents
 
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Due to the fact the Governments have washed their hands of responsibility for power generation ownership, doesn't in any way remove the accountability, for reliable supply.

Both sides of politics have to get their head around that, being pedantic about the failings of decisions, isn't addressing the realities that face us.

Having thrown the dice with the carbon tax, the ball is rolling, institutions aren't lending money for base load coal fired generation and gas is in short supply.
Therefore the options are narrowed.

It leaves us in a rather wedged position, the only options IMO are , a gas pipeline in the short term and a pumped storage roll out in the longer term.
How we pay for it will have to be sorted, I've already said the idea of a resource tax on volume, made the most sense to me. It didn't fly.

The one thing that is a given, it has to be sorted, no matter who is in office.
It was a crazy ill conceived idea, to penalise our only real advantage that really is going to cause us a world of pain.
However if it is carried out correctly, it could actually lead to a very renewable future, for the East Coast.
I'm ever the optimist.
 
I suggest this a profound review on the future of the energy industry. The whole article is well worth reading IMO.

Australians could save $100bn on electricity 'if government had clear policy'
Energy transmission industry ramps up call for market mechanism and says clear regulation could lead to zero net emissions by 2050

The Australian energy market is in the middle of a profound transformation, according to a new report from Energy Networks Australia. Photograph: Paul Miller/AA

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Katharine Murphy Political editor
Friday 28 April 2017 06.09 AEST Last modified on Friday 28 April 2017 06.12 AEST

Australia’s electricity and gas transmission industry has intensified a call for a market mechanism to drive orderly transformation in the energy sector, warning a lack of clear regulation will result in higher prices for consumers and a less secure grid.

Energy Networks Australia (ENA) says clear policy settings could ultimately save Australian energy customers $100bn, and allow a smooth transition, where large-scale variable renewable energy can be integrated securely, creating the prospect of Australia’s electricity sector achieving zero net carbon emissions by 2050.

A new roadmap from the ENA to be released on Friday says the energy market is in the middle of a profound transformation that will only intensify over the next two decades.

Modelling produced for the report suggests that by 2050, up to 45% of Australia’s electricity supply could be provided by millions of distributed, privately owned generators, in homes and businesses.

...... Bradley says the intense transformation required in the electricity sector will only be possible if the industry agrees on a clear roadmap, and with “stable and enduring carbon policy to support investment”.

A range of influential organisations have told the current Finkel review of the national electricity market the Turnbull government needs to put a price on carbon or adopt a market mechanism to drive emissions reduction.

A string of peak bodies have used the review to call for the adoption of a market mechanism, including the National Farmers’ Federation, the Investor Group on Climate Change and the Business Council of Australia, which explicitly called for an emissions intensity scheme.

The current industry consensus around carbon pricing is a major turnaround in a very short period of time.

Three years ago some of the same groups urged the parliament to get out of the way so that Tony Abbott could repeal the Gillard government’s “carbon tax”

https://www.theguardian.com/austral...on-electricity-if-government-had-clear-policy
 
Guess who else wants to see a clean, renewable energy future using carbon pricing ?
Yep the National Farmers Federation.


National Farmers' Federation joins calls for market mechanism to lower carbon emissions
NFF submission to Finkel review joins AGL, Energy Australia and Business Council in supporting mechanism such as emissions intensity scheme


A water irrigation system in Kununurra, Western Australia. The National Farmers’ Federation has called for a market-based mechanism to secure clean and affordable energy. Photograph: Bloomberg/Getty Images

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Tuesday 7 March 2017 08.59 AEDT Last modified on Tuesday 14 March 2017 12.50 AEDT

The National Farmers’ Federation has called for a market-based mechanism to secure clean and affordable energy, such as an emissions intensity scheme, joining a long list of organisations urging an end to Australia’s policy impasse.

In a submission to the Finkel review, the NFF calls for the government to reconsider its opposition to an EIS and institute a market-based mechanism by 2020 because it would be the cheapest path to low-emissions power generation.

The NFF joins many organisations calling for consideration of a market mechanism including network company Energy Networks Australia, retailer Energy Australia, electricity provider AGL, the Climate Change Authority, the Business Council of Australia and the CSIRO.

The chief scientist, Alan Finkel, has also given implicit support for an emissions intensity scheme, saying it would integrate best “with the electricity market’s pricing and risk management framework” and “had the lowest economic costs and the lowest impact on electricity prices”.

In December the energy and environment minister, Josh Frydenberg, ruled out pursuing an EIS, pre-empting the findings of the Finkel report by taking one of the most widely supported policies to meet Paris climate targets off the table.

On Tuesday the NFF president, Fiona Simson, told ABC’s AM the current system was “broken”, citing blackouts in South Australia and poor energy reliability and affordability in the agricultural sector.

Simson said some farmers faced power bills of double or triple the rates in previous years, labelling price spikes “indefensible”.

“In agriculture it’s absolutely devastating – we have businesses that rely on secure, reliable and affordable electricity to conduct cool stores that store fruit, for example, that run their milking machines for their cows, that run irrigation pumps for their fruit and their vegetables.”

Simson said that an evidence-based policy would result in “the market sorting it out” and called for a technology neutral approach.

An emissions intensity scheme is part of Labor’s climate change policy and has been backed by the South Australian government, which the Coalition has used to revive a scare campaign about power prices despite findings that policy stability can reduce prices.

https://www.theguardian.com/austral...or-market-mechanism-to-lower-carbon-emissions
 
From the link above,
The company Bakers Maison will pay investors for the solar energy it uses over a period of between seven to 10 years. The investors get a 7 per cent return on the money they put in.

After that time, the business owns the panels and will use its energy for free.

What's the nature of the specific investment arrangement ?
 
The details of the investment arrangement for the community solar energy projects are spelt out on the Clear Sky Solar website.

Have to say it's a very attractive return and appears reliable.

"The end user pays less for their electricity and at the end of the seven years inherits a solar PV installation that will go on producing free power for another 15-20 years. Each new project contributes to the bottom line of the installation company, creates local jobs and boosts Australia's clean energy sector. Investors can feel a sense of ownership and monitor how their system is performing as well as getting a reliable income stream over a 7 year period"

http://www.clearskysolar.com.au/howitworks.php
 
From the link above,
One year after the system is switched on, you will receive your first payment. It will be whatever the system has generated over the past year multiplied by the price per kWh for that year set out in the contract with Smart Commercial Solar. You will have direct access over the Internet to the system's inverter so you can check for yourself how much the system generated over the last year (broken down into individual days if you wish). Using this facility you will be able to calculate exactly how much you will receive each annual payment based on what proportion of the trust units you hold. Each annual payment has a capital repayment component equal to one seventh of the sum advanced, and a profit share component. The profit share component has to be declared as income tax.

With regard to the Bakers Maison system above as reported above by the ABC, what is the period over which investors will receive payments (7 to 10 years according to the ABC but the above suggests 7) and the price per kWh paid to investors ?

My bolds.
 
Not sure exactly of the specific figures for Bakers Maison. Looking at the overall model it seems that the investment period for the client company is around 7 years. It seems that the company agrees to the solar panels going on their premises at no cost to them. They then pay for the electricity generated at an agreed price which is less than current market cost so they are saving money. After the agreed contract time - say 7 seven years, the company gets the full value of the cheap solar power for the remaining life of the panels. This should be another 15-20 years

During the seven year investment period the investors get a return of between 6-9% on their funds and ongoing payback of the principal. Obviously the organisers get some sort of return as well.

 
From information in the ABC article above it is possible to determine the price per kWh required to generate a return to investors of 7% pa.
Within six hours, 20 investors had pitched in almost $400,000 to install a huge 230 kilowatt solar system on the bakery's roof.

$400k for 230kW represents $1,739 per kW of installed capacity.

Based on the generation from my 1.5kW system over a period approaching 6 years, I'd estimate that 1kW of solar capacity with a favourable solar aspect could generate 1,600kWh of electricity per annum or 16,000kWh over 10 years.

This equates to 10.9 cents/kWh for a return of capital over 10 years. That essentially needs to be doubled to generate a 7% pa compound return on investment over the same period.

For 7 years, it's 15.5 cents/kWh for a return of capital and 24.9 cents/kWh for a 7% pa compound return on investment over that 7 years.

Anyone else clipping the ticket is additional cost as is the cost of grid connection where the system doesn't include battery storage.
 
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Nice set of figures there Dr Smith. I believe however there would be additional income from RET payments? I also understand the solar panels are treated as a lease item so there would be tax deductibility involved which would not apply to a domestic user.
It's also possible/probable that current solar panels would generate more power than units installed 6-8 years ago. There have been improvements in efficiency.
 
Nice set of figures there Dr Smith. I believe however there would be additional income from RET payments? I also understand the solar panels are treated as a lease item so there would be tax deductibility involved which would not apply to a domestic user.
It's also possible/probable that current solar panels would generate more power than units installed 6-8 years ago. There have been improvements in efficiency.
I'm not surprised there's government subsidies in there. Looking quickly at the present cost of retail packages, I note that per unit of installed capacity, these are much cheaper than for the investment install above. Is the purchase price net of any RET credits or are the RET credits paid over time after install and is there any distinction between small scale and large scale installs ?

http://www.solarwa.net.au/solar-systems-special-offers/?gclid=CLrI797mzdMCFcMrvQodN58IQA

The panels themselves have become more efficient over time but a unit of installed capacity (or multiple thereof) is a unit of installed capacity regardless of the efficiency of the panels.
 
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Well doc IMO, the writing is on the wall for W.A, a mate of mine has just had his meter updated to a smart meter for free.
That tells me something, they are running at a loss that Labor says requires a 7% increase in charges.
Yet they can afford to replace a perfectly good meter with a 'smart meter' for nothing, if it smells like a rat, it probably is a rose, if your a Labor voter.lol
 
The charge rate for one building I operate in has increased by 100% this year due to elimination of bulk buy tariff.

Meanwhile the argument is on here for Hydro versus Coal up North for a new power station. QLD could make a motsa selling power to SA and VIC
 
Good luck with Adani and co selling coal to India. That boat has sailed and sank.

Indian solar power prices hit record low, undercutting fossil fuels
Plummeting wholesale prices put the country on track to meet renewable energy targets set out in the Paris agreement


Solar panels for sale at a market in New Delhi. India’s solar power prices have fallen to 2.62 rupees per kilowatt hour. Photograph: Saurabh Das/


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Wednesday 10 May 2017 22.29 AEST Last modified on Thursday 11 May 2017 08.21 AEST
Wholesale solar power prices have reached another record low in India, faster than analysts predicted and further undercutting the price of fossil fuel-generated power in the country.
The tumbling price of solar energy also increases the likelihood that India will meet – and by its own predictions, exceed – the renewable energy targets it set at the Paris climate accords in December 2015.
India is the world’s third-largest carbon polluter, with emissions forecast to at least double as it seeks to develop its economy and lift hundreds of millions of citizens out of poverty.
Ensuring it generates as much of that energy as possible from renewable sources is considered crucial to limiting catastrophic global temperature increases.
At a reverse auction in Rajasthan on Tuesday, power companies Phelan Energy and Avaada Power each offered to charge 2.62 rupees per kilowatt-hour (kWh) of electricity generated from solar panels they hope to build at an energy park in the desert state. Last year’s previous record lowest bid was 4.34 rupees per kWh .

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Analysts called the 40% price drop “world historic” and said it was driven by cheaper finance and growing investor confidence in India’s pledge to dramatically increase its renewable energy capacity.

It reduces the market price of solar tariffs well past the average charged by India’s largest thermal coal conglomerate, currently around 3.20 rupees per kWh . Wholesale price bids for wind energy also reached a record low of 3.46 rupees in February.

https://www.theguardian.com/environ...ices-hit-record-low-undercutting-fossil-fuels
 

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In all the flurry about developing clean, renewable energy sources it's worth recognising the gaming and damage done with current coal fired power stations.

It also underlines why we need a determined and well resourced Environmental Protection Authority.

'Mindblowing': NSW EPA probes coal-fired power plants over pollution claims
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Claims that one of the state's largest power stations used the partial monitoring of its units to manipulate pollution estimates have prompted the environment watchdog to investigate all plants in NSW.

The Bayswater power station in the Hunter Valley was only required to report pollution from one of its four generation units. Staff were instructed to supply lower sulphur coal to the unit being monitored while dirtier coal was burnt in the other three, according to participants attending a public meeting held with current plant owners AGL in Muswellbrook in March.

The future of energy in Australia
Coal has dominated the National Energy Market, but the closure of Hazelwood power station heralds a potential transition to renewables.

AGL does not deny the station, which it bought from state-run Macquarie Generation in 2014, deliberately blended coal to mask the true emissions of nitrous oxides, sulphur dioxide and other pollutants. The company says it can't comment on operations prior to its takeover and has since introduced monitoring of all four units.

"Blending of coal can be done, at the coal mine or power station, to meet supply agreement conditions, and ensure compliance with air quality protection guidelines and [Environment Protection Authority] licence requirements," Rob Cooper, an AGL spokesman said. "This is common practice in the industry."

http://www.canberratimes.com.au/env...ts-over-pollution-claims-20170510-gw26lb.html
 
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