My guess is it has something to do with the linepack and the GT is situated in a position that the draw on the line at that point, is such that it has minimal affect on what is available at the end delivery point.Indeed a bit off topic but the 90MW gas turbine is by itself in the middle of nowhere. I don't know the full history there, how that came to be, but it's the only generating plant at the site and it really is stuck in the middle of a field pretty much:
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Zoom outI don't know the history but there must be a story as to why it was built there surely. It's a suitable location, it connects to the Moomba - Adelaide gas pipeline, and nobody's likely to complain about noise but still, it seems an odd place for one gas turbine all by itself.
Pinjar is a direct line on the gas pipe line so probably a good assumption.My guess is it has something to do with the linepack and the GT is situated in a position that the draw on the line at that point, is such that it has minimal affect on what is available at the end delivery point.
In W.A there is a similar situation with Pinjar GT station, North of Perth.
Just a guess.
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I think you might be right. It's the only explanation that comes to mind.My guess is it has something to do with the linepack and the GT is situated in a position that the draw on the line at that point, is such that it has minimal affect on what is available at the end delivery point.
In W.A there is a similar situation with Pinjar GT station, North of Perth.
Just a guess.
When we got into power generation we went to governor droop, quadrature droop and whatever other droop that was happening at the time. The great days of Woodward governors and Basler AVR's, oh the good old days.Haven't thought about leading lagging power factor for eons think it was 3rd year had to calculate the phase angles then when working in power generation that all went our the window and just winged it
And when the paid for power supply fails here we just hit the start button on the generator and bingo instant power.When we got into power generation we went to governor droop, quadrature droop and whatever other droop that was happening at the time. The great days of Woodward governors and Basler AVR's, oh the good old days.
I've noticed the droop hasn't improved with time.
When we got into power generation we went to governor droop, quadrature droop and whatever other droop that was happening at the time. The great days of Woodward governors and Basler AVR's, oh the good old days.
I've noticed the droop hasn't improved with time.
That was an excellent story Country Lad. Quite detailed and offered an excellent insight intoGood old wind farms - they really need to find alternative materials for the sails.
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Last time I was there Jamo was the foreman, great fitter ended up at BP refinery.The woodward governors were amazing, the engine drivers at Exmouth used to complain to me all the time above the voltage being all over the place, finally looked into it and the AVR's were wired and set all asre about the 4 bigger sets were fighting each other continually.
Blacked out Exmouth 5 or 6 times I think working it out and sorting it
The good old days locals just thought the blackouts were normal
It may alarm you to know that until not long ago, rather a lot of plant had primary frequency control completely disabled.When we got into power generation we went to governor droop, quadrature droop and whatever other droop that was happening at the time.
This one?I worked for the yanks at Exmouth, they had Morse Fairbanks diesels.
From memory the town station had English Electric CSV16's.
I think the old station used to be in town on Nimitz Street from memory, apparently they now have a new gas fired station.
Wow that is new, zooming in on your map, the old station comes up as 29 Pelias St, just off Nimitz St, well I think that is it but we are talking 40 years ago.It may alarm you to know that until not long ago, rather a lot of plant had primary frequency control completely disabled.
Kate Summers had quite a bit to say about this one. She's not afraid of upsetting anyone (and isn't afraid to play the personal card if it makes a point....).
This one?
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Wow that is new, zooming in on your map, the old station comes up as 29 Pelias St, just off Nimitz St, well I think that is it but we are talking 40 years ago.
The building is orientated and located where I remember it, there are also all the roof vents, so I'm 90% sure that's the old station.
How did you embed that google satellite image? very clever.
Yes the corner of Nimitz and Huston, when I click on it google comes up with 29 Pelias St, strange as there is no Pelias Street when you zoom in.Corner of Nimitz and Huston? No 5 Huston looks like the new workshop built 83 / 84 ish the switchyard is where I remember at the front Nimitz St.
The units from a shaky memory where 6 ish old Blackstones and 4 x 8 cylinder Allens, 750 kw ish don't ever remember the station temp being below 55 degrees in summer.
Used to stay at either the Potshot or North Cape Lodge alternately drink at the other scoring the odd free beer to lure me back, life was simple then if not outright dangerous
There were some pretty extreme accidents working live in those days.
Yes the corner of Nimitz and Huston, when I click on it google comes up with 29 Pelias St, strange as there is no Pelias Street when you zoom in.
I remember the Allens at Carnarvon, but for some reason EE CSV's comes to mind for Exmouth, Blackstones the only ones I remember back in the 80's was at Denham and I think Menzies had one.
You certainly could be right, regionals had a smorgasbord of units spread all over the State, we were constantly swapping out old museum pieces for high speed Cats and Cummins.
I only visited Exmouth station once in my time with regionals, so the memory could be shaky.
When I lived there I was working on the base.
Happy days, Keith was a bit of a legend in Regionals, he was there when we converted the Allens to start on diesel and run on LNG, that was when Australia just got on and got things done. Not always well, but we got them done.I have a photo of me standing in front of the Blackstone in Denham doing a major with a fitter holding a big spanner (never used the spanner)
The V16 Allens in Carnarvon were a fantastic motor (submarine motors I think) the Merlee's alongside them I set the hi temp alarm / shutdown back to front blacked Carnarvon Keith Diemel told me their were two C's in town and I was both of themthey were the days.
Thinking now Exmouth wasn't Allens as you say.
I don't think anyone disagrees with the cost advantage of renewables, the debate is more focused on the amount of renewables and storage that will be deployed and as to its ecological effect and its ongoing replacement costs.Notions of Australia needing to go nuclear are beyond the pale. Nuclear remains the most expensive source of firming electricity by a large margin, as has been explained at this site for many years:
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Unsurprisingly renewables get cheaper year after year, with capacity additions in 2023 increasing massively:
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But the above chart is not the big story. That's found in the declining price of solar which has module prices at their lowest level ever, reaching AUD$0.20 per watt in the third week of November. The chart below shows the trend:
IRENA's latest report shows that the rate at which the competitiveness of solar and wind power has improved as the cost of electricity from solar and wind power has recently fallen is quite remarkable.
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