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France allows coal fired power stations to burn more coal, as power shortages loom.
It would be interesting if it happened in Australia, we tend to blow them up asap.
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It would be interesting if it happened in Australia, we tend to blow them up asap.
France coal-fired power plants get short-term right to burn more
France is temporarily allowing electricity producers to burn more coal after the nation’s grid operator warned of possible power shortages.
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It seems they were saving the diesel to test out the state of the yart subs they were building for OZ, until OZ cancelled them.
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they run on batteries and need power from some where ?
are windmills and solar going to provide that?
batteries for the record as well are toxic and require numerous toxic materials from the ground
the EV marker are just new shiney things sold to an idiot based consumer markert
Unpacking The "Electric Cars Aren't As Green As You Think" Claims - CleanTechnica
Critics of electric cars say building a battery pack creates more emissions than building a conventional car.
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renewables! like everything leftist pure fantasy and fixtion!France allows coal fired power stations to burn more coal, as power shortages loom.
It would be interesting if it happened in Australia, we tend to blow them up asap.
France coal-fired power plants get short-term right to burn more
France is temporarily allowing electricity producers to burn more coal after the nation’s grid operator warned of possible power shortages.
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thats great your oldies are still paying the family electricity bill!
try moving out one day and experience the real world! youll soon find that leftist ideologies dont work and never have as history points out
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Yes, just ask "Value Collector" who charges his Tesla car batteries using his house solar panels and gets free "fuel".
I am looking forward to joining the program.
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and they are another usefull idiot?
Lenin's terminology!
as all leftists are!
living in some fantasy fictitious land!
thats based on history and current theory
A hot Kurri Kurri: why Labor's fossil proposal is even worse than the Coalition's - Michael West
The Kurri Kurri gas plant proposal makes no financial sense, involves a billion-dollar subsidy, is unfit for purpose and there's a gas plant nearby
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That's the problem, when you get journalists, telling the technical people how to do it, Labor hasn't done a backflip for no reason, they have been told the reality. ?A hot Kurri Kurri: why Labor's fossil proposal is even worse than the Coalition's - Michael West
The Kurri Kurri gas plant proposal makes no financial sense, involves a billion-dollar subsidy, is unfit for purpose and there's a gas plant nearby
AGL brings forward closure date of two largest coal-fired power plants as market shifts to renewables
Climate groups dismiss energy giant’s amended schedule for Loy Yang A and Bayswater as a ‘token effort’ that is ‘next to meaningless’
The private sector will close the coal power stations when it suits them, not when the media say they will close them and the journalists will be quick to blame the Govt if there isn't any installed plant and rolling blackouts are the result.
But the media don't let a good story, get in the way of the reality.
It's all good chook food for the muppets.
The other plus with Snowy Hydro owning it, if there is a power shortage for any reason, Snowy has the ability to recharge Snowy2.0 with their own generation, rather than being at the whim of the market generators.
Oh by the way, they wouldn't be the ones Michael West is quoting, would they?
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That's the problem, when you get journalists, telling the technical people how to do it, Labor hasn't done a backflip for no reason, they have been told the reality. ?
AGL brings forward closure date of two largest coal-fired power plants as market shifts to renewables
Climate groups dismiss energy giant’s amended schedule for Loy Yang A and Bayswater as a ‘token effort’ that is ‘next to meaningless’www.theguardian.com
The private sector will close the coal power station when it suits them, not when the media say they will close them and the journalists will be quick to blame the Govt if there isn't any installed plant and rolling blackout are the result.
But the media don't let a good story, get in the way of the reality.
It's all good chook food for the muppets.
Yep, having government owned stations act as a moderator to price gouging by the private sector.
I'm surprised the Federal Coalition has gone down this path, I suspect they intend to sell it off at an opportune time.
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I would be surprised, it is too usefull for Snowy Hydro IMO.
Also it will only run when required, so not really suitable for a private generator, a big battery would be better value for money for the privates IMO.
No moving parts, no workers, no fuel.
Not sure but you're quoting the Guardian lolThat's the problem, when you get journalists, telling the technical people how to do it, Labor hasn't done a backflip for no reason, they have been told the reality. ?
AGL brings forward closure date of two largest coal-fired power plants as market shifts to renewables
Climate groups dismiss energy giant’s amended schedule for Loy Yang A and Bayswater as a ‘token effort’ that is ‘next to meaningless’
The private sector will close the coal power stations when it suits them, not when the media say they will close them and the journalists will be quick to blame the Govt if there isn't any installed plant and rolling blackouts are the result.
But the media don't let a good story, get in the way of the reality.
It's all good chook food for the muppets.
The other plus with Snowy Hydro owning it, if there is a power shortage for any reason, Snowy has the ability to recharge Snowy2.0 with their own generation, rather than being at the whim of the market generators.
Oh by the way, they wouldn't be the ones Michael West is quoting, would they?
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Yes because it stated what AGL said and backed up what I have been saying, renewables will shut down coal quicker than what people think.
What is your take on the issue, other than cheap shots?
Wasn't that the gist of the story...that the technology could be obsolete before it's necessary?I would be surprised, it is too usefull for Snowy Hydro IMO.
Also it will only run when required, so not really suitable for a private generator, a big battery would be better value for money for the privates IMO.
No moving parts, no workers, no fuel.
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What gas turbines, I dont think so, why would that be the case?
Woodley points out that the Australian Energy Market Operator (AEMO) shows that a supply gap in NSW won’t occur till 2030. ‘’By then there will be all sorts of new storage and generation options, regardless it only takes three years or so to build a gas plant like this so we don’t need to even consider proceeding with construction till 2027 or so”.
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You will probably find the AEMO projection, is based on everything going to plan, youve been around long enough to know with old worn out plant, that never happens.
@Smurf1976 has highlighted even recently how close to the wind things can be and that is before the 2,000MW station is closed, Woodley doesnt have to face the music if he is wrong, thats why Labor are sticking with the gas turbines.
The 2,000MW that is closing down, is at call generation, the proposed generation going in is renewable intermitent and batteries.
@Smurf1976 has highlighted even recently how close to the wind things can be and that is before the 2,000MW station is closed, Woodley doesnt have to face the music if he is wrong, thats why Labor are sticking with the gas turbines.
The 2,000MW that is closing down, is at call generation, the proposed generation going in is renewable intermitent and batteries.
8 years is a long time in politics
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What has that got to do with whether the gas turbines are required?
