wayneL
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Yup! Both these guys are exactly spot on! The hypocrisy of some posters on this issue is amazing! Personally I have used NG to invest in both property and shares in the past - I see no difference between the two. In ALL cases my aim and intent is to make money, not lose it.
Correct,
But in my humble opinion, debt to equity on a margin loan generally doesn't allow interest to exceed dividend stream, if it does you're playing with fire.
the symptom of which is overvaluation
IIRC, in any normal business where there is no intention of making a trading profit, that is a profit or loss on your trading statement, are not permitted to deduct these losses from other income.
Please explain
Compare apples with apples wayne.
you have to compare property investors with share investors and property traders with share traders.
Professial Property traders have different taxation rules to property investors just like professial share traders have different taxation rules to share investors.
Any one holding trading stock whether it be property or shares is treated differently in taxation.
most small businesses have loans, they claim the interest as a deduction....
why is the same loan, when applied to a property investor, a tax rort...
as some on this forum suggest....
some of us have several properties, we run it just like any other business...its a business of investing in rental properties....
oh, and if you cared to check the rise of house prices for the past 50 or so years, it appears to be a very profitable business......
I note the NSW Tenancy tribunal states 1 in 4 people in Nsw are renters...
any tax incentives are offset by the govnuts...non spending on public housing....
who is better able to provide cost efficient housing to the public...the state or federal govts or private individuals..
almost no public housing has been provided since the 1970's, hence the incentive provided to individuals to provide the housing...
how many of you would prefer to live in an established house in any suburb, compared to the little ugly boxes, stacked on top of each other, as in any public housing estate....or the other ugly housing commission homes, where the whole suburb consists of only housing commission boxes...
as seen recently with the federal govnuts BER schools program....totally rorted, costing or spending up to 4 times the market price for a similar building provided by the private sector...
I know which alternative most taxpayers prefer, and renters....
We've been through the valuation numbers a hundred times Tech. Some accept the argument, some don't.
If negative gearing was not allowed, or only allowed if there is a reasonable prospect of trading profit within, say, 3-5 years, house prices would definitely be substantially lower.
We've been through the valuation numbers a hundred times Tech. Some accept the argument, some don't.
If negative gearing was not allowed, or only allowed if there is a reasonable prospect of trading profit within, say, 3-5 years, house prices would definitely be substantially lower.
However you can borrow up to 75% of the value of BHP on margin, and BHP's tiny dividend wouldn't come close to the 8.85% interest rate on the margin loan.
Correct,
However as I previous hinted at, an astute equities investor won’t put BHP on 75% margin; you will probably find that most will stick to around 50%.
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Dollar lower at noon on strong homes sales trends
New homes sales surged 6 per cent in April due to strong growth in Victoria, a Housing Industry Association report shows.
Meanwhile, home values were flat in April as heat came out of the housing market.
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