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Makes perfect sense.
Countries in Europe have so many immigrants piling in, particularly the UK, that their countries could be full of Prefab homes. They could line them up along the beeches so that immigrants could walk into them. If landlocked they could be put on the outer perimeters.
 
Machine gun nests lined along the beaches is a better idea IMO
 
Machine gun nests lined along the beaches is a better idea IMO
There is something in sinking boats as few would then attempt the crossing. A suggestion that less would then drown over time was deleted by Facebook so we have to be careful.
There are still what were called Pill Boxes or Machinegun Nests in place.


Hexagonal pillbox
Prime Minister Churchill was a qualified Bricklayer having learned the craft in his wilderness years. He built a wall at Chartwell, Westerham, Kent, England.
 
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My noosa hinterland farmlet settled yesterday.
I would put the amount we got at roughly 10% below the peak.. roughly 18 months ago.
Happy to be free to carry on living, disappointed with the price we got vs more mainstream suburban boxes.
There is a reason 90% of the population of this once great country are living in suburban hutches within 20km of the cbd, feeling isolated on a country the size of Europe
 
nice to see the deal done , sad to see you didn't get a good price

are the millionaire believing the climate hype or just moving offshore , one would have thought they are still fleeing the cities
 
nice to see the deal done , sad to see you didn't get a good price

are the millionaire believing the climate hype or just moving offshore , one would have thought they are still fleeing the cities
but they do not want a farm, water and green grass, they want a white picket fence and a flat horse arena to build a steel and concrete modern bunker ;-)
 
but they do not want a farm, water and green grass, they want a white picket fence and a flat horse arena to build a steel and concrete modern bunker ;-)
well they should start digging and designing .. not sure i would doing that in the hinterland , maybe getting in 'tight ' with some of the neighbours would be better , could be a LOT of muscle up there
 
but they do not want a farm, water and green grass, they want a white picket fence and a flat horse arena to build a steel and concrete modern bunker ;-)
Hmmm I might consider selling off the Ponderosa and see what we can get... It's just missing a concrete bunker... The diggs are a little bit more, <cough> "historical".
 
This is how stupid the ponzi scheme is, 5 years ago a young couple could buy a house in the outer suburbs of perth, no problems.
Now with the loonies over East buying sight unseen and paying over the odds, prices have gone stupid, hopefully we have a resources bust it usually brings about a property bust.
We need one IMO, all that is happening at the moment is property prices are destroying our social fabric, it's shocking.

House prices have doubled in three Perth suburbs over the past five years, according to Domain’s House Price Report released Thursday.
 
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@sptrawler I guess if one is a seller than the high housing prices are great.
Now if someone was to offer me a king's ransom for my place, no second thoughts would be needed.
 
If it was such a ponzi scheme, with 30 millions people on a continent, why isn't any block of dirt growing a brand new house?
Note a house in Toowoomba or Warwick is still priced well above a capital city suburban dwellings in most of the world
In 2024, for roughly $60k, you can buy a made in china container pack 2 bedrooms.
So if you can not buy a 100k 2 bedrooms place in the countryside, the reasons are much deeper than ponzi scheme.
It is a fundamentally broken system:
Regulations and overlapping layers of authority, red green tapes, overpaid workers/employees and parasitism from welfare to BS jobs and layers of incompetence as well as a debatable currency value.
If monetary mass doubles, so should Real estate.
Real estate situation is the canary in the mine, not a cause.
Killing or blaming the canary will not prevent the mine explosion, but could make some elected as MPs...
 
Bargain property prices in Victoria at the moment, cheaper than SA.

I reckon it says more about the Victorian economy than its property, the state is broke and people with money are not buying the rubbish new builds, or they are leaving the state.

Maybe a good time pick up a bargain in Victoria, I wouldn't but there are investors that are gamer than I.

When Adelaide (population 1.3 million) is dearer than Melbourne (population 5 million) the natural order of things has obviously been disturbed and there are opportunities for investors.


 
Like you say, Victoria is broke and the Govt can't get money off people who don't have any, so one would think property based taxation has to go up, there isn't a lot of industry left there and the electrical supply was sold years ago plus it is heading into shutdown mode.

So nah, I don't think Melbourne has seen the worst of it yet, the Andrews infrastructure binge has still to work its way through the system.

The Feds may help bail them out, but they have enough issues of their own, with the clean energy roll out, before the East Coast blackout.

Hopefully all's well that ends well, but I don't think we are at the end yet, I'm with you @JohnDe it needs someone gamer than me.
 
The issue I brought up a while back, where Eastern States buyers of W.A properties sight unseen, could end up in tears for them.

An article in today's local paper highlights the problem, W.A isn't like the East Coast, when we have a downturn property prices crash along with wages.

In 2007 a friend of mine sold an ocean front block just north of Mandurah for $1.2m, it still would struggle get that sort of money, 17 years later.


 
Things are going to get a lot worse in Victoria.
As a resident it saddens me greatly, but economics and the realities of life will always trump ideology every time.
Already reeling from the criminal activities of the CFMEU and bikie gangs, beset with a weak political opposition, and every possibility that this years AFL grand final will be between two interstate teams, life could hardly get any worse.
With ever increasing debt, increases in taxes and state charges, Victoria has suffered an internal drain on the state for some years.
If it were not for the large influx of overseas migrants, the state would have a net population loss.
Residents are leaving the state.
Two recent events have made the state even less attractive for its residents.
Firstly, the Victorian Gas Planning Update highlights that there will be gas shortages from now on, and to stop the residents from revolting, it will be industry that has to do the rationing.
Some business will shift interstate or offshore if they can, others will seek backup systems if they can, others will find that the costs for any of the above are prohibitive and will simply close.
The second blow actually comes courtesy of the Federal Government.
The Albanese governments decision to limit the number of overseas training places starting from january 2025, coming on top of the 60k cut in overseas education visas last year will put a huge hole in the education industry in Melbourne's CBD.
It has been geared up around the industry, and there are large numbers of accomodation structures in place or being built that cater directly to student accomodation.
The Universities are crying foul, saying it will cost them billions, which s probably hyperbole, but the flow on effects will be significannt.
Mick
 
No signs that residential property prices are going to come down anytime soon, especially with all the governments throwing money like confetti to every infrastructure build they can think of.

“The big problem we have right now is that there is too much work underway for the workforce we’ve got. That is going to drive wages higher, and it has,” Mr Hanan said.
The cost of building a new home has surged almost 40 per cent over the past four years, official figures show, partly due to a substantial pipeline of state government infrastructure projects increasing competition for construction materials and tradies.

 
this caught my eye. I've heard Victoria is a mess
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Property

“Melbourne is still in the change room, whilst the other [cities] have already started running. It’s actually worse than that – most of the other runners have already finished a lap”
- Colin Kean, Director, Research4 [property research firm]
 
Speaking to an acquaintance, let's call him Bob, Bob is building a multi-million-dollar block of town houses. He is hands on, with a real-estate license and several builds under his belt and has found the past few years has been the hardest in regard to getting quality work done in a reasonable time frame. The builder has their hands tied by the lack of tradespeople available, meaning that they can't sack anyone and get another in because there is no other.

On a Monday Bob went to see how progress was going and noticed the carpenters work quite fast and efficiently, he told them how impressed he was at their work and speed.

On Tuesday Bob dropped by to check on one of the other builds and noticed a lack of trades vehicles and found that here was not a single carpenter around. He called the builder and was told that he had no idea where they were, the carpenters should have been there until completion of their job, but he would find out. An hour later the build called and told Bob that the carpenters were all mates, and they had decided to take the week off to go surfing because the weather was so good.

Bob said, "sack them all". The builder said that he would love to but there is no one he can get to replace them.
 
An interesting article reminded me of my history, and also softened my old age affected thinking of emigration allowing me to remember my youthful side.

When I was a kid, my emigrant grandparents always said to me, "buy land John, it doesn't disappear like money". And my dad told me "No one's making more land.

I listened and as soon as I was old enough, I took up their advice.

“I came from Italy as a seven year old. We had nothing and I worked very hard, myself and my late wife, and I’m very proud of what we’ve achieved in this country,” he said.
“The best investment, as far as I’m concerned, is real estate,”
DiMauro said he dabbled in the sharemarket, but property’s the main game, and specifically shopping centres, which have benefited from decades of rising economic prosperity in Australia.

The share market has also been good to me, but property has been better.

For 30 years I've listened to people telling anyone that will listen "the property bubble is about to burst", and that "property is too expensive, no one will be able to afford it and you will be left with a huge debt and no way of selling it".

One day they may be right, just like one day we will be living on Mars.

The article is also a reminder that good government and policy creates strong and stable economies, governments that look at strengthening wealth through hard work and reward. But that has been possible with the support of voters, my fear is that the majority of voters are now self-absorbed with a utopian dream.

 

Property sellers’ profits have soared over the past decade, creating windfall gains for home owners who can use the proceeds to downsize, upsize, or help their family buy a home.

But the growth is widening the gap for home-buying hopefuls who do not have access to equity or parental help to get into the market themselves, with this societal division becoming a “critical” problem.

Peter Rae

Sydneysiders who sold a house in 2024 made a median profit of $655,000, Domain figures show, double the median profit of 2015 sellers at $326,250.

Melburnians made a median profit of almost $400,000 if they sold a house this year, a jump from $260,000 in 2015.

Brisbane’s profit this year of $395,000 is almost triple that the 2014 figure of $144,000, while Perth’s vendors’ bonanza was less, as a 2024 sale made them $231,000 as against 2015’s $165,000.
 
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