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FIRB ‘failing’ to enforce rules on foreigners buying Australian homes

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...australian-homes/story-fn59nm2j-1227135170289

My bolding shown in referenced article.


Hot off the press : -

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-11-...s-to-be-strengthened/5921518?section=business

 
BREAKING NEWS !!

Spoke to a mate who is a real estate agent, he said 1 in 2 contracts he signs are to international buyers......even he (who is earning a bucket load due to this) is concerned about the ramifications.

cheers

MACCA350 wrote this on the 1st December 2009 waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyy back at post #91 on this thread.
 

That was August.
I read today, there is a 43% increase in available rental properties, than the same time last year.
 
It would appear the "noise" is exactly just that:-


http://www.news.com.au/finance/real...-property-prices/story-fndban6l-1227154627010
 
Well on the one hand you have people in the real estate industry who claim that it's not a big deal but then when you propose tightening the rules on foreign ownership to them they go bat****. I think it's a case of thou doth protest too much.


Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/business/the-...home-loans-20140924-10l9eb.html#ixzz3LpSkKz3C

No need to panic Mr Mannering.
 
I don't know about any other areas of Australia other than the northern beaches area of Sydney and the Central Coast of NSW and that is where my observations are based on.

Last Month I sold a unit in Sydney. 2 years ago I got a written valuation for it and at that time it was worth around 425K. I sold that unit for 525K and I sold it in 3 weeks flat. I had several buyers through and had offers starting from 485K. As the offers were coming in I just patiently waited until the offer of 525K came up and the agent advised me that it was the top price for my unit block and that I probably should consider accepting it, I did. The buyer was an Aussie, Aussies love the Northern Beaches and will pay what it takes to get in.

Since that time I have been actively observing and looking at units around the Gosford (Central Coast) area. I have also been looking online at units in Horsnby. There is very little around and there are hoards of buyers, I am competing with them all.

The big problem is that there very little stock around, too many buyers to compete with. There are unit blocks planned for development but in most cases the projects just have not started. One block in particular was selling units off the plan over a year ago and the original building on site still hasn't been demolished yet, not an iota of progress with most of these approved developments. This only forces existing stock prices to go up.

Some more popular developments like this one in Hornsby are all sold off the plan, nothing left, click on any level in the link to view. This is the kind of apartment I would like to buy, link here: http://www.pacificpoint.com.au/Floorplans.php

Selling a property is the easy part, buying a new one of quality is the hard part. I personally think that if they could build 20,000 extra new apartments around Sydney and Gosford they will all be sold easily. There is a massive shortage, I know as I am looking right now. I ideally would like to see more projects get started and completed, we need the stock.

As for foreign buyers, no doubt they have some influence on the new stock coming onto market but I will say that for existing stock most are are Australians or permanent residents. On Saturday I bumped into some Asian groups looking and they spoke with a Dinky Di accent, just because some people look Asian doesn't mean they are not Australian citizens. They, like me, only just want to buy a decent property and it is not an easy job doing those Saturday open for inspections with the hoards.

So what does this mean for prices? It's only going to keep going up under the circumstances. Anyone have any idea why these approved projects take so very long to get started and completed? I thought there was an increase in unemployment, what's going on?
 
Trainspotter, I don't understand your position on Australian housing. Are you saying that this debt to income ratio is okay? That foreign investment is not having an influence on house prices? That the rise will continue?

My position of Australian Housing has not changed. The debt to income ratio is WAAAYYYY to high which is why the RBA is looking at ways of reducing this by talking to the Australian Prudential Regulation Authority. The RBA is also looking at restricting interest only loans as a way of regulation:-


Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/business/curb...-cut-rates-20141211-124q1g.html#ixzz3LvEDaF4K

Foreign investment has skewiffed statistics due to the lack of reliable data. Like everything in Real Estate it is CERTAIN areas that will increase / decrease due to market forces (read foreign investors)

The rise is over. The RP Data - Rismark report shows the strongest growth in home values over the past six months has been at the more pricey end of the market at 6.8 per cent, while more affordable homes have risen 3.5 per cent over that period and been flat nationally over the last three months.

My
 
Kudos to Bill M for cranking 100k less fees is a great result. Just wondering if you have done a spread sheet on this transaction? Date purchased and all that and maybe capital gain if applicable?

Developers need risk ratio and banks need deposits and binding contracts to make the contract work. Also council / shires need time to think about it.

Unemployment is going to bite hard in March on the Guvmint purse strings. RBA will continue to make noise to APRA who will restrict interest only loans. Mortgage Insurance companies will tighten guidelines. Business as usual.
 
Kudos to Bill M for cranking 100k less fees is a great result. Just wondering if you have done a spread sheet on this transaction? Date purchased and all that and maybe capital gain if applicable?

Thanks for asking. I don't do spread sheets as such, I wouldn't know how but I have all the figures in my head. I know what it cost me, what I net sold for and the rentals received.

The whole point of stating the 100K part was that at that time a lot well known people on this forum were calling a housing crash, it didn't happen and still hasn't. Had I have listened to these people I wouldn't have made the money I did.

But to be honest the unit was a mediocre return at best.
Bought the the property in 2003 for 390K all in including all costs.
Sold the property in October 2014 net profit after all expenses 510K. That gave me a clear capital gain of 120K. I bought the unit brand new and paid more than I would have for existing stock, that's why the capital gain is only mediocre.

During that period of ownership I lived in it for 7 years (that part will be capital gains tax free). Street market value rental would have been $400 p/w. The tenant paid $430 p/w in the last 5 years of ownership.

Capital gains net 120K
Rent I didn't have to pay for 7 years (no mortgage) 145K
Rent received from tenant for nearly 4.5 years was around 100K (no mortgage)

Then there were expenses that need to come out of that, levies, water, insurance, rates etc. As a mate of mine said, it's not that great a return but it's better than losing and you lived in it for free for 7 years.

I reiterate, the last 2 years is where it jumped the most, I had no intention of selling when all the doom and gloomsters were saying the market was going to crash. But then again I never do or think like the herd anyway, just the way I am.
 
perth and darwin investors must be hurting with those kind of rental falls
 

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I reiterate, the last 2 years is where it jumped the most, I had no intention of selling when all the doom and gloomsters were saying the market was going to crash. But then again I never do or think like the herd anyway, just the way I am.

Perfect Bill M

 
quite an interesting article. gives a good historical contex to current prices

http://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2014/12/the-history-of-australian-property-values-redux-2/


I/O loans now make up over 60 of investor loans, and over 40% of all mortgages.


Probably explains why NG is so untouchable these days.

 

I/O loans at these low rates, makes for very cheap money, if you are in the highest tax bracket.
It must be under the microscope, however can't see the Government doing anything, other than take any proposed changes to the election.
 
I/O loans at these low rates, makes for very cheap money, if you are in the highest tax bracket.
It must be under the microscope, however can't see the Government doing anything, other than take any proposed changes to the election.

Government won't be doing anything about interest only loans to investors. RBA will muscle APRA into doing this:-


http://www.apra.gov.au/MediaReleases/Pages/14_30.aspx

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I/O loans at these low rates, makes for very cheap money, if you are in the highest tax bracket.
It must be under the microscope, however can't see the Government doing anything, other than take any proposed changes to the election.

I'm starting tot hink any changes should be held off till the slow down / recession impact is fully felt.

If APRA does start to limit I/O loans, or NG is quarantined to new builds, any fall in property prices will be blamed on the changes, rather than the unsustainable fundamentals of falling yields while unemployment increases.
 

I concur with this statement. The changes are designed to slow down the property market. Talk about shutting the gate after the horse has bolted.
 
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