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However if you believe most of Australia is based on your reality of "home & away" Sydney's northern beaches, then its too removed from the average citizen of this country IMHO. Probably a symptom of never having lived in many states or experienced anything outside your idyllic lifestyle.
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Most people aspire to improve their lives . You seem to want to drag everyone down and say want can't be done . Is that the underlying motivation of D & G 's . A sort of my life's crap so no one else should be better than me jealousy .
It was quite reasonable for a low-mid income earner to pay off a house on single income, supporting a family only 30 years ago, and now, that is impossible... and by house I mean a house, not some dog box single bed unit that some here will spurt out as an option.
As long as nothing went wrong, yes.Was this really possible back then?
Actually I remember watching tv shows and movies (i'm 32) that portrayed the mother at home looking after the family of 2 or 3 children, in a big 2 story house and the father (a mechanic, a factory worker, a car salesman etc), supporting the whole family, which still went on holidays and had big christmasses with lot's of presents under the christmas tree.
Was this really possible back then?
Notice at the moment the prices are below the long term average . If it was a share , what would you do ?
For those who like graphs , here is one ( copied from this thread on Somersoft ) which shows a nice long term up trend.
Obviously the comments relate to posters on Somersoft , in particular some of the resident Doom and Gloomers over there.
Notice at the moment the prices are below the long term average . If it was a share , what would you do ?
I came over here ( ASF ) to catch up on what was going on in the share market and seeing this post , and knowing something about property investing , I thought I would contribute . It would seem that there are many people on here with closed minds . I find that disappointing.
Cliff
I thought people on this thread might have actually been interested on " the future of the property market"
Hello Cliff, I am enjoying your imput, keep it up I love it. I myself have been investing in property since the late 70's. I've heard all the doom and gloom stories many times before and this time it is no different.
I attach an article I cut out of the northern beaches local rag 19 years ago. Have a look at the prices back then. Now you need to pay between 400K and 500K for a 1 br unit on the Northern Beaches and at this present time prices are rising rapidly. All the best.
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Do you know which bank/credit union/society she has borrowed from? I'm well out of touch with modern home loans, but once upon a time the majors worked on a maximum monthly repayment/gross income ration of 30% (her's would be 38%) and mortgage ins would be required on a 95% lvr & they'd do likewise. It is indeed alarming that lending is still taking place where the slightest rise in interest rates, or heaven forbid a period of unemployment, would result in a forced sale in a very short time period.A good friend has recently purchased her first property :
Inner city 2 bedroom house in Melbourne
Buy price $700k
Stamp Duty $28K
Mortgage Insurance $25K
Other Fees $2K
Loan Amount $650K
LVR 95% Loan repayments of $3.8K per month
Equivalent property to rent : $2.1K per month
Original deposit $90K
Her Salary $120K pa divorced with one child.
Why did she buy, her family convinced her that it was a good investment. I tried to convince her she was better off with a margin loan + her deposit and build up a share portfolio. But she is convinced her property will double within 10 years.
Her property needs to rise by 10% for to break even if she is forced to sell. When asked could she cope with IR's increasing by 2% she would have to sell. Responsible lending, no. Banks are just drug dealers pushing debt as the new cocaine.
Cheers
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