white_goodman
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Julia you just dont get it young-gun is gonna make the smartest of all his moves and wait for the crash then he will be able to purchase his dream house as a four bdr in popular suburb for the todays price of a cheapy this way he will also save on transaction cost of upgrading. dont you see how smart he is. with all the money he is saving he can afford to splash out on his other smart move (getting married)
Looks like the block achieved 100% auction clearance rate and all selling well above reserve, doesnt exactly follow the picture the melbournians are trying to paint. great results considering the poor results of the lat few shows the block might be a little leading indicator. loved how they turned the roofs into usable entertaining space and views every house thats positioned correctly should be doing that i know i will be from now on.
Lots of green shoots around my best guess is the daily index never prints lows lower than it already has if i was waiting for price deflation before entering it woud be now to 12 months ago might be stagnant wont be falling further but my guess is slow growth on par with inflation. wait to see strong gains in the figures and youve already missed your chance. my guess and actually what ive noticed of late is things will creep away unnoticed.
I am in a similar situation to young gun, I can afford a home but why would I? I travel twice a year, bank interest pays 70% of my rent, and if i was to buy id have to use all that for a deposit and then pay more in interest for the first few years for a similar property... Older generation might have to come to a realisation that the demographics arent there, the financing isnt there, and this little thing called the internet doesnt allow the masses to be duped into dumb decisions (as much as past).. also the freedom of not worrying about job security nearly as much.
I don't understand much in that post. Very hard to read.
Why would anyone buy a business that is losing money unless they think there is a potential for a quick turnaround? Hence why things should be valued (basically) on a multiple of earnings.
My point is you are not pricing growth why different assets have different value and pes the lowest pe does not represent best value
dont you ever wonder why different companies trade at different pe's?
I'm the same. It just doesnt stack up for me and my wife personally. Both early-mid 20's, earning well over 6 figures between us, have just got married and spent three months travelling, so a lot of major life goals and expenses out of the way, yet still dont see buying as suiting us just yet. Currently save more pa than many people earn, and live in a nice area, and dont have to worry about when we next want to move or change jobs.
If we were to buy were we live now, it would take about 15yrs (excluding costs/body corp etc) to pay off, putting all our savings and equivilant rent into it. Admittedly it is an inner city location.
Currently our interest only pays 25% of our rent though. Do you live by yourself WG?
There is no growth in your example, only inflation, unless i mis-read it.
Of course different valuations are affected by past and future potential growth, but your example only cites inflation, so in my mind, if i was buying an asset that only grows with inflation i would pay no more than 10x earnings. Government bonds are currently priced at a PE of 33, which is news to me, as they seem way over-priced based on that basic measure also, unless the market is anticipating a LOT of deflation
How can one possibabily produce valid argument when every instrament of measurement to you is inaccurate a sham or conspiracy against you especially when it does not conform to your logic.
You know even scm believed the rpdata daily index was one of the best and most accurate weve had!
No I wouldnt say its a stupid idea young gun, that is up to you, only you know your financial situation, though, I would be going for a bigger block rather than a bigger house, thats my view.
I think while you are young, both working, no kids is a good time but this - I am young, you want to live it up saga - gets that look from me.
What do you mean, out with the old, in with the new?
People have to live somewhere, you either rent or pay mortgage, thats it.
Not everyone wants their own home and thats fine, but when I hear people whingeing they cant pay the rent, well, we didnt travel and throw money up on the wall, we made sacrifices.
no matter how bullish or how much trumpeting you do, if housing finance doesnt pick up the fuel for the fire is simply not there,
I am in a similar situation to young gun, I can afford a home but why would I? I travel twice a year, bank interest pays 70% of my rent, and if i was to buy id have to use all that for a deposit and then pay more in interest for the first few years for a similar property... Older generation might have to come to a realisation that the demographics arent there, the financing isnt there, and this little thing called the internet doesnt allow the masses to be duped into dumb decisions (as much as past).. also the freedom of not worrying about job security nearly as much.
Good luck in all your housing dreams this year.
Unfortunately the interest I am earning doesn't come close to covering my rentNo one on here appears interested in demographics or credit growth either.
Bottom line is, even if prices do climb, they most certainly won't be climbing fast. If I'm wrong about a crash, I pay a little extra for a house. If an investor is wrong about a crash not being able to happen, and it crashes, well.......
Oh well, you had better hope those investers all dont pull out, otherwise where are you going to live?
Thats fine, while you keep banging how good renting is, investors can keep banging on how good their income generating asset is, giving you a roof over your heads.
If their investment is in a positive, they dont care.
This is a housing thread and people are free to say whatever they like, be it bulls or bears.
Oh well, you had better hope those investers all dont pull out, otherwise where are you going to live?
Alot of confused messages on here
- one minute its affordable but I dont want to buy, the next is its unaffordable and you have priced us out.
Oh well, you had better hope those investers all dont pull out, otherwise where are you going to live?
Thats fine, while you keep banging how good renting is, investors can keep banging on how good their income generating asset is, giving you a roof over your heads.
If their investment is in a positive, they dont care.
This is a housing thread and people are free to say whatever they like, be it bulls or bears.
the upside is heavily outweighed by the downside at this moment in time.
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