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I'm sorry do you want to point out where I said just resources?

How about education, food etc we are a nation of what? 20 something million smack bang in the middle of opportunity. We don't need to do a whole lot to punch above our weight. All you do is look for the most pessimistic outlook possible and man it's draining.
And how the hell do you come to the conclusion I'm a permabull when I mostly point out the fact things are not as bad as what you whiners say and I doubt we will end up in depression.

BHP yep I'm sure they are doing it tough
 
De'nile is a river in Egypt .....

I didnt say anything about BHP other than they dissagree with your India will save the day Idea ...

No Whining here infact I see your type as whiners - Im just pointing out the facts - I think its absolutely wonderful that your Mcmansion 5 mintutes drive from the Worlds best Iron ore deposit is gaining value - go you - you rock !

But for the rest of the nation it simply isnt that rosey - unless you have proof otherwise ?

 
Jut saw this on Reddit.
Seems like Australia isn't the only expensive place on the planet....






http://tiny.cc/eo43ew
 
Heres a pretty good writeup about US prices etc-


http://money.cnn.com/galleries/2011/real_estate/1105/gallery.rent_or_buy/index.html

Where would you rather invest folks ?
 
Here is one for SCM who has said that Australia should have its property bubble burst like Iceland did during the GFC...


Iceland Property Bubble Grows With Currency Controls: Mortgages


http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-05-29/iceland-property-bubble-grows-with-currency-controls-mortgages.html
 
I think thats rather misleading - perhaps its tipping jobs? They have lower minimum ...

But anyway - stacks of cities in US with houses under 100k and household incomes over 50 .... US has alot more potential than we do I feel .....

And even if they don't the rental yields in many places are double what they are in Australia. No true investor would ever touch Australia with a 10 foot pole, with our chronic oversupply of housing.

If you combine this with the fact that our currency is on the way down, clearly investing in US real-estate is by far the best way to go, if one must invest in real-estate at all.
 

http://www.thebull.com.au/articles/a/28686-building-approvals-fell-8.74-in-april.html

Can only get worse in the near term surely .....
 

Not siding either way on Aus property, but your suggestion of investing in US property is probably not a great idea either...

You're taking on FX risk, which can be huge at times... that is, unless you buy some form of hedge/insurance against this, which would cost you a fair bit anyway.
 

I didn't suggest it - I clearly said if one must invest in real estate - then US is far better than Australia.
 
Just one thing, if house builds are declining, would that not limit supply thus stabilising prices, if demand is constant?


Would certainly help determine a floor in prices eventually I would summise -
 
Just one thing, if house builds are declining, would that not limit supply thus stabilising prices, if demand is constant?

Demand wil drop like a stone, just like it's doing now.
 
Except for bullets, beans,and band aids the necessary things in life. Mr.B
 
Demand wil drop like a stone, just like it's doing now.

its very hard to really know what is happening right now most data is old and the action that created the data even older and the intent of the action ie, organising finance searching etc older still by the time you start to see positive signs the market could well have been running away for close to 12 months, people really need to start looking forward rather than back. all the data is good for is predicting the past.
 

I can see it as plain as the agents can, people arent buying and/or aren't prepared to pay like this time last year.
 
I didn't suggest it - I clearly said if one must invest in real estate - then US is far better than Australia.
Isn't the system a bit different in that certain taxes and rates, if not paid, attach to the house and not it's owner? I remember hearing that this surprised people who were buying "cheap" houses and having to fork out a lot more money on top of this.
 


Houses arnt Cheap in the US - they are fair market value - its just ours are still over the top expensive making theirs seem cheap.

I believe property tax in US varies considerably from state to state - im sure if what you suggest is true it would be easy to find out and one would take that into consideration with an offer - a couple extra k is chicken feed to in comparison to our market though hey ?
 
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