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Over what timeframe?

Personally I am bullish long term but I expect prices to soften to the end of the year at least - possibly until we have confirmed the next peak in the rate cycle. 10% in a few months would be a major issue, over a longer term it would be seen as a far softer landing and set the stage for the next upleg.

AWOTE traditionally rises faster than CPI so the time frame of any pullback does impact on the measure household earnings as a multiple of house prices that some here love so much.
 


Huh?? You are not making making much sense there nor in your other posts ie not reading Sinners posts correctly?


The fiat system & fractional reserve banking are not racist when it comes to over-allocating those freshly printed notes to be mis-allocated into unproductive property bubbles both here and in China. Both countries banks have indicated that the show is over as far as their respective weighting to the property sector is concerned, irrespective of where rates go.

Just a matter of time brothers.....
 
All sweet bro.


http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/-/mp/7540478/wa-landlords-feel-the-pinch/

The last paragraph gave me a giggle tho ...... better get out those pom poms guys
 
Not looking good at all for the property sector. Expect to see some further squealing by the like of the HIA in the coming weeks.

I reckon that the last 2 years have been about the government buying the banks time to shore up their balance sheets. Now it's time for a culling of the weak - banks and property speculators.

 
RBS Australia senior economist Felicity Emmett said the Reserve Bank may "sit on its hands" if global financial markets continue to sharply deteriorate, but she thought a rate cut was unlikely unless the world economy slipped back into recession.

Oh Felicity, will you stop reading ASF and come up with your own material.

With thanks,
Associate Banker
MR.

HA HA HA what a total useless waste of a post this was.
Will try harder to post content in future.
 
hello,

yes ordinary writings from another economist, fascinating

anyhow great day, sun shining strong, the energy it gives you when the rays hit the body is phenomenal

great news with Vic State Gov announcing some Vicroads departments going to Ballarat and some more action in Bendigo

just kicking off, get on it

200k for a house up there still

thankyou
professor robots
 
Another economist just making a living......

Hey, where's the Bigdog thingy?

It looked up a bit this week didn't it?
 
200k for a house up there still

thankyou
professor robots
Hi botsy ,

Can you answer this question for me please.

Case: A house is bought in 1990 for 200k and is now 20 years later sold for 500k. During that time council rates have cost 15k, house maintenance costs about 30k (painting, guttering, fencing, pergola built, plumbing repairs, new carpet, stairs, electrical repairs, termite treatment, concrete slabs and sheds erected, numerous one off items).

Question: Considering prospective next homes have also increased in time value, where is the capital appreciation?
 


Bots must be out strolling along the Port Phillip, enjoying life, in the sun and all.....

Assume this house is hypothetical!
500k – 200k – 15 and 30k would equate to $255k which is approx 4% compounding appreciation minus inflation if you want!
The answer would be to own at least one or more wouldn't it?
 

What I failed to mention was the interest on mortgage came to 90k on a 150k loan over the 20 years. So 255k - 90k = 165k additional in the pocket after 20 years.

For sure an investment property is lucrative because rental income covers aforementioned property maintenance but the only people I can see benefiting from a non investment property are the next of kin.
 
News flash

“The property tip of the year”
“The real estate market will crash”


http://www.jenman.com.au/news_item.php?id=60

“So we wrote near the end of 2001 in a series of four articles called Boom & Bust. Since then the real estate market has continued to boom.
Our real estate critics have laughed."


and P’ssed em selves, popped arteries, forgotten to breath and turned blue in hysterics!
 

A non investment property owner wouldn't be paying rent, but would be paying that interest instead.

If the question's now, on the next of kin, it's going to be a matter of time!
 
Onwards and upwards I say. : The ultimate chart pattern.

Australian Property Prices
 

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Sigh. Inflation is the key here.

Australian Property Prices (Inflation Adjusted)
 

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House shortage! What house shortage?

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/bus...unlikely-to-dive/story-e6frg9gx-1225889995260

It said while 150,000 houses had been built each year since 2005, the population had grown by more than 350,000 a year.

How many people on average live in a house?
AVERAGE HOUSEHOLD SIZE
The average household size in Australia is projected to decline from 2.6 people per household in 2001
Australia's household size (2.5) in 2011 is projected
http://www.ausstats.abs.gov.au/Ausstats/subscriber.nsf/0/DF2989BFFA7392E1CA256EB6007D63F4/$File/32360_2001%20to%202026.pdf


150,000 houses x 2.5 people per household = 375,000

No house shortage here! Although it did say more than 350,000
 
Question for MR and Wsiwyg. Do you own property? Either PPOR or RI ? Got any commercial RE assets to speak of? What about a strata title unit or two? Any vacant land? Maybe a development block? Just interested if you have property as part of your portfolio?
 
Everywhere I look, I see bad bad news for the RE sector, as foretold on ASF.

 
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