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How changes to the environment affect have massive effects on our agriculture. Article offers n excellent detailed explanation of why olive trees are in trouble in Italy.
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Italy sees 57% drop in olive harvest as result of climate change, scientist says
Extreme weather blamed for plunge in country’s olive harvest – the worst in 25 years – that could leave the country dependent on imports by April
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...nd-on-olive-imports-from-april-scientist-says
 
How to farm with the Environment rather than against it.

Regenerative agriculture finds solid backing as decades of success show renewal
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NSW Country Hour


By David Claughton and Olivia Ralph

Updated earlier today at 09:19
First posted earlier today at 06:00
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A study of regenerative agriculture has found the method can improve biodiversity and farmer wellbeing.

(ABC Rural)
Boorowa farmer Charlie Arnott has experienced the immense toll of drought on his cattle, his business and his wellbeing, but he has found a way through it all.

Fifteen years ago, reeling from the effects of the Millennium drought, he attended a workshop on regenerative agriculture that radically changed the way he farmed and, he believes, saved his life.

"I was doing a really good job of killing a lot of stuff to try and grow food, which is kind of crazy," Mr Arnott said.

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Regenerative farmer Charlie Arnott explains some of the principles to the local Landcare group.

(ABC Rural)
He had been farming conventionally using pesticides, herbicides and fertilisers, but the course taught him how to partner with nature instead of trying to control it.

It has turned around his farm's capacity to deal with drought and he currently has plenty of water and grass for his livestock even as the drought in NSW intensifies.

"We haven't fed for 15 years [because] we measure how much grass we have, we know how many animals we have to eat that grass and a very simple calculation gives us the amount of time that that grass is available before it runs out," Mr Arnott said.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/rural/2...-attracts-solid-backing-amid-success/10871130
 
Fully agree, be it global warming, plastic pesticide use, veganism but also and outside this thread the whole economic status of this country,
But no fashionable battlefront, can be boring, not pretty or a bbq talk..so not much chances
And too many $interest from mining lobby to Greenpeace,big business, Greens, Unionsi
i hope to be wrong but i do not expect changes unless maybe and only maybe an economic shock therapy
People starving or sleeping in the street get somewhat more focussed and less keen on swallowing their daily fake news..sometimes..
or they turn to the next dangerous ideology..
and our far left is ready
 
Singapore prides itself on being one of the greenest places in Asia.
And yet a significant part of it's greenness comes from mining millions of tons of sand from Cambodia and destroying its mangrove swamps which feed millions of people.

Powerful story
When Your Land Is Stolen From Beneath Your Feet

...Nearly two decades following the dissolution of the regime, thousands of Cambodian families are experiencing a new wave of displacement. By talking with locals on the island of Koh Sralau, Mam found out that since 2007, the government of Cambodia has granted several private companies concessions to mine the country’s coastal mangrove forests. Each year, millions of metric tons of Cambodian sand are shipped to Singapore to expand that island nation’s landmass; Singapore has imported more than 80 million tons of sand so far. According to Mam, “The people and all the living creatures that depend on these forests for their livelihood are forced to cope with this massive loss.” In addition to displacing those who live and work on that land, Cambodia is also destroying its only natural barrier against erosion, rising sea levels, tsunamis, and hurricanes.


 
So these 2 signs today. Didn't know where to upload them and then saw this thread.
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Singapore prides itself on being one of the greenest places in Asia.
And yet a significant part of it's greenness comes from mining millions of tons of sand from Cambodia and destroying its mangrove swamps which feed millions of people.

Powerful story
When Your Land Is Stolen From Beneath Your Feet

...Nearly two decades following the dissolution of the regime, thousands of Cambodian families are experiencing a new wave of displacement. By talking with locals on the island of Koh Sralau, Mam found out that since 2007, the government of Cambodia has granted several private companies concessions to mine the country’s coastal mangrove forests. Each year, millions of metric tons of Cambodian sand are shipped to Singapore to expand that island nation’s landmass; Singapore has imported more than 80 million tons of sand so far. According to Mam, “The people and all the living creatures that depend on these forests for their livelihood are forced to cope with this massive loss.” In addition to displacing those who live and work on that land, Cambodia is also destroying its only natural barrier against erosion, rising sea levels, tsunamis, and hurricanes.



This story has dozens of parallels bas. Often a purportedly green narrative has an underlying environmental cost, elsewhere, that goes unreported.

We really need to consider environmental impacts in toto.
 
Often a purportedly green narrative has an underlying environmental cost, elsewhere, that goes unreported.

We really need to consider environmental impacts in toto.
Very true.

Efficient but short lived consumer gadgets are my pet hate. You're not saving the planet just by using slightly less power if what should have lasted decades is junk within five years. :2twocents
 
On that same idea, due to red tape i have to install a fire fighting dedicated tank on my property, 50m from a permanent spring fed dam.
I doubt that tank will ever be used even if we have a fire.200kg of plastic.thrown away in 20y
Or imagine the energy cost if i go metal or cement tank....

A lightweight bag just recently banned is 0.6g
So my tank is the equivalent of 333,000 former bags
At 8 bag per shopping weekly..i think it is accurate from my memory, i could shop weekly for 800years before breaking even.
All that for a costly piece of mandatory garbage due to nanny state and regulation obsession.
If you remember well, the USSR was a champion of waste..resources,time,people and we are definitively going that way.
Socialism/globalism to use that term loosely is also an enemy of the environment as it fight common sense for ideological purpose.
We need a serious wake up call and the end of fake news, not talking Trump here, or a more intelligent public
 
There is more than one Very Serious Problem facing us.
Human society under urgent threat from loss of Earth's natural life
Scientists reveal 1 million species at risk of extinction in damning UN report

Jonathan Watts Global environment editor


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Mon 6 May 2019 11.59 BST Last modified on Mon 6 May 2019 22.05 BST

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Forest clearance in Indonesia. Scientists have warned of the impact of deforestation on animals. Photograph: Ulet Ifansasti/Greenpeace
Human society is in jeopardy from the accelerating decline of the Earth’s natural life-support systems, the world’s leading scientists have warned, as they announced the results of the most thorough planetary health check ever undertaken.

From coral reefs flickering out beneath the oceans to rainforests desiccating into savannahs, nature is being destroyed at a rate tens to hundreds of times higher than the average over the past 10m years, according to the UN global assessment report.

The biomass of wild mammals has fallen by 82%, natural ecosystems have lost about half their area and a million species are at risk of extinction – all largely as a result of human actions, said the study, compiled over three years by more than 450 scientists and diplomats.
https://www.theguardian.com/environ...gent-threat-loss-earth-natural-life-un-report
 
Ice losses are rapidly spreading deep into the interior of the Antarctic, new analysis of satellite data shows.

The warming of the Southern Ocean is resulting in glaciers sliding into the sea increasingly rapidly, with ice now being lost five times faster than in the 1990s. The West Antarctic ice sheet was stable in 1992 but up to a quarter of its expanse is now thinning. More than 100 metres of ice thickness has been lost in the worst-hit places.

A complete loss of the West Antarctic ice sheet would drive global sea levels up by about five metres, drowning coastal cities around the world. The current losses are doubling every decade, the scientists said, and sea level rise are now running at the extreme end of projections made just a few years ago.

The research, published in the journal Geophysical Research Letters, compared 800m satellite measurements of ice sheet height from 1992 to 2017 with weather information. This distinguished short-term changes owing to varying snowfall from long-term changes owing to climate.

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“From a standing start in the 1990s, thinning has spread inland progressively over the past 25 years – that is rapid in glaciological terms,” said Prof Andy Shepherd, of Leeds University in the UK, who led the study. “The speed of drawing down ice from an ice sheet used to be spoken of in geological timescales, but that has now been replaced by people’s lifetimes.”


He said the thinning of some ice streams had extended 300 miles inland along their 600-mile length. “More than 50% of the Pine Island and Thwaites glacier basins have been affected by thinning in the past 25 years. We are past halfway and that is a worry.”

Researchers already knew that ice was being lost from West Antarctica, but the new work pinpoints where it is happening and how rapidly. This will enable more accurate projections to be made of sea level rises and may aid preparations for these rises.

In the recent past, snow falling on to Antarctica’s glaciers balanced the ice lost as icebergs calved off into the ocean. But now the glaciers are flowing faster than snow can replenish them.

“Along a 3,000km [1,850-mile] stretch of West Antarctica, the water in front of the glaciers is too hot,” he said. This causes melting of the underside of the glaciers where they grind against the seabed. The melting lessens the friction and allows the glaciers then to slide more quickly into the ocean and therefore become thinner.

“In parts of Antarctica, the ice sheet has thinned by extraordinary amounts,” Shepherd said.

Separate research published in January found that ice loss from the entire Antarctic continent had increased six-fold since the 1980s, with the biggest losses in the west. The new study indicates West Antarctica has caused 5mm of sea level rise since 1992, consistent with the January study’s findings.

The expansion of the oceans as they warm and the vast melting in Greenland are the main current causes of the rising oceans, but Antarctica is the biggest store of ice. The East Antarctic ice sheet contains enough ice to raise sea levels by about 60 metres. It had been considered stable, but research in December found even this stronghold was showing signs of melting.

Without rapid cuts in the carbon emissions driving global warming, the melting and rising sea level will continue for thousands of years.

“Before we had useful satellite measurements from space, most glaciologists thought the polar ice sheets were pretty isolated from climate change and didn’t change rapidly at all,” Shepherd said. “Now we know that is not true.”

https://www.theguardian.com/environ...ets-spreading-inland-rapidly-study?CMP=share_
 
I have often thought what the increasing number of hobby farms does to flora and fauna.Local governments love them ,no doubt,for the rates.But they intrude into the more natural areas-a threat to bio-diversity.
 
I have often thought what the increasing number of hobby farms does to flora and fauna.Local governments love them ,no doubt,for the rates.But they intrude into the more natural areas-a threat to bio-diversity.
how could it be Hobby farmer have a couple of cow/horse, do replant, are active in landcare and land for wildlife?? where are you? and what do you call hobby farmers?
5 acres lots are not hobby farms, that's subdivision and urban sprawl in the making, and so is indeed bad for the environment with 2 dogs per lot wiping out koalas and wallabies..here in SE Qld,
but hobby farmers are a plus, they do not need land to produce $ so do not overstock or rape the land in pure desperation; Interested to understand where you come from?
 
how could it be Hobby farmer have a couple of cow/horse, do replant, are active in landcare and land for wildlife?? where are you? and what do you call hobby farmers?
5 acres lots are not hobby farms, that's subdivision and urban sprawl in the making, and so is indeed bad for the environment with 2 dogs per lot wiping out koalas and wallabies..here in SE Qld,
but hobby farmers are a plus, they do not need land to produce $ so do not overstock or rape the land in pure desperation; Interested to understand where you come from?
Where I am in the Adelaide hills the hobby farms usually take up untouched marginal land,unproductive for farmers.With new roads and constant traffic,dogs,goats etc.Before this these areas supported more native flora and fuana.In some countries the delineation between town and country are very easy to observe...not so where we are.Once animals and birds lose their home range etc they are gone forever.They cannot encroach elsewhere as a rule.Same as clearing native forests.
 
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