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SirRumpole said:
A simple search for "Adani mine" would give you all the info you need if you bothered, but start off with this
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Actually I had already carried out more research than you care to name some time ago.

There are lots of "IFS and BUTS" about this project and its viability on todays market price of $60 per tonne and financial backers have moved away for this reason but Adani does have other resources from India.

I believe Adani may hang out until 2019 when coal prices are expected to increase to $88 per tonne....I think their break even point is around $54 per tonne.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carmichael_coal_mine
 
SirRumpole said:
I could say something about bags of wind, but maybe I shouldn't.

:D
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Go for your life Sunshine..

There are plenty of bags of wind in Canberra on both political sides....They don't need wind mills down there and many politicians have certain places that the never sees the Sun.
 
noco said:
It was stated they were trying to stop the Adami project but they have obviously failed.

Do you have a link or information that the Indians are still looking for funding?
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I don't make a point of finding links from television news broadcasts. I'm sure you can find what you are looking for somewhere on the net.
 
noco said:
Not much point in having those charging stations if they keep running out of power...If the wind don't blow or the Sun don't shine.

What do you reckon Sunshine?
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Perth Wave Energy Project - Australian Renewable Energy Agency ...
arena.gov.au/project/perth-wave-energy-project/
This project is the world's first commercial-scale wave energy array that is ... created by the CETO Units can be used to supply a reverse osmosis desalination plant, ... The power produced by the Perth Wave Energy Project is clean renewable ...
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Wind, solar and wave is where we are headed.
 
Here you go, this is the progressive brain at work:

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bellenuit said:
.... and on doing a little research.

From his Twitter profile:

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What does Prof Brian Cox say:

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And to see more from Vix Comic

https://twitter.com/vizcomic
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LMAO What a hoot! That's twits tweeting for ya :p:
Surely, everyone with two functioning brain cells would've "got" the joke.
But if it matches people's prejudice, anything will be lapped up as Gospel.
remember the fading curtains used as argument against Daylight Saving?
 
So we have an expedition to Antartica to check glacial dissipation and scientists looking at the barrier reef, bla bla blah.

A bit like "jobs and growth. jobs and growth" but FGS, no substance, no action, no answers.

Time to stop all burning, forest cutting??? cummoorn some of you bright posters on this thread. Can we save the environment for human survival.
 
Here ya go Plod:
https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2017/06/the-ends-of-the-world/529545/

Earth Is Not in the Midst of a Sixth Mass Extinction
“As scientists we have a responsibility to be accurate about such comparisons.PETER BRANNEN

At the annual meeting of the Geological Society of America, Smithsonian paleontologist Doug Erwin took the podium to address a ballroom full of geologists on the dynamics of mass extinctions and power grid failures—which, he claimed, unfold in the same way.
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What is happening in Salmon Farming ?

Well worth a read to the end.

Salmon farming in crisis: 'We are seeing a chemical arms race in the seas'
Rare only 40 years ago, farmed salmon is now taken for granted in our kitchens. But the growth of the industry has come at great cost
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The salmon farming industry has grown at breakneck speed since the 1970s. Photograph: Alamy

John Vidal

Saturday 1 April 2017 21.00 AEDT Last modified on Tuesday 28 November 2017 13.44 AEDT


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Every day, salmon farmers across the world walk into steel cages – in the seas off Scotland or Norway or Iceland – and throw in food. Lots of food; they must feed tens of thousands of fish before the day is over. They must also check if there are problems, and there is one particular problem they are coming across more and more often. Six months ago, I met one of these salmon farmers, on the Isle of Skye. He looked at me and held out a palm – in it was a small, ugly-looking creature, all articulated shell and tentacles: a sea louse. He could crush it between his fingers, but said he was impressed that this parasite, which lives by attaching itself to a fish and eating its blood and skin, was threatening not just his own job, but could potentially wipe out a global multibillion-dollar industry that feeds millions of people.

“For a wee creature, it is impressive. But what can we do?” he asks. “Sometimes it seems nature is against us and we are fighting a losing battle. They are everywhere now, and just a few can kill a fish. When I started in fish farming 30 years ago, there were barely any. Now they are causing great problems.”

Lepeophtheirus salmonis, or the common salmon louse, now infests nearly half of Scotland’s salmon farms. Last year lice killed thousands of tonnes of farmed fish, caused skin lesions and secondary infections in millions more, and cost the Scottish industry alone around £300m in trying to control them.

Scotland has some of the worst lice infestations in the world, and last year saw production fall for the first time in years. But in the past few weeks it has become clear that the lice problem is growing worldwide and is far more resistant than the industry thought. Norway produced 60,000 tonnes less than expected last year because of lice, and Canada and a dozen other countries were all hit badly. Together, it is estimated that companies across the world must spend more than £1bn a year on trying to eradicate lice, and the viruses and diseases they bring.

As a result of the lice infestations, the global price of salmon has soared, and world production fallen. Earlier this year freedom of information [FoI] requests of the Scottish government showed that 45 lochs had been badly polluted by the antibiotics and pesticides used to control lice – and that more and more toxic chemicals were being used.
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/apr/01/is-farming-salmon-bad-for-the-environment
 

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