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SirRumpole said:
Vested interests again, they would say that.
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Well, it posed no threat in 1950.

That report was not by Origin Energy....Suggest you read the report a little more in detail.

A 2013 report by scientific analysis firm Norwest Corporation outlined several "scenarios" that could be contributing to the bubbling in the river.

These included natural events such as drought and the recharging of aquifers after floods.

Human activity such as CSG operations and water bore drilling were other possible contributing factors.

Professor Damian Barrett, the CSIRO's lead researcher into unconventional gas, has been monitoring the Condamine gas seeps.

"The isotopic signature is telling us it's coming from coal at that point in the landscape but coal is quite close to the surface and there's a naturally existing small fault line, which cuts the river at that point," he said.
 
Can anybody in Queensland give me a first hand update on the unfolding consequences of the reported coral bleaching to the Great Barrier Reef...stop
93% effected overall i'm hearing and 50% death rates north of Cooktown...stop
Very little info coming out of the local media... stop
urgently await reply ...stop
 
orr said:
Can anybody in Queensland give me a first hand update on the unfolding consequences of the reported coral bleaching to the Great Barrier Reef...stop
93% effected overall i'm hearing and 50% death rates north of Cooktown...stop
Very little info coming out of the local media... stop
urgently await reply ...stop
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What you are currently hearing is Green propaganda......I believe very soon you will get the truth.
 
orr said:
Can anybody in Queensland give me a first hand update on the unfolding consequences of the reported coral bleaching to the Great Barrier Reef...stop
93% effected overall i'm hearing and 50% death rates north of Cooktown...stop
Very little info coming out of the local media... stop
urgently await reply ...stop
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Interesting question regarding lack of information.

Election coming up, I would say Greg Hunt has ordered his department not to talk to the media, and same with CSIRO.

David Attenborough probably would have rattled a few chains with his latest series on the reef though.
 
SirRumpole said:
Interesting question regarding lack of information.

Election coming up, I would say Greg Hunt has ordered his department not to talk to the media, and same with CSIRO.

David Attenborough probably would have rattled a few chains with his latest series on the reef though.
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QLD : home of Courier Mail = LNP Rag= Deliberate Misinformation = Mortal Enemy of ALP = Conceals truth= Distorts facts to protect LNP = Attack dog = Compromises govt employees= Chokes real news feed.
 
Tisme said:
QLD : home of Courier Mail = LNP Rag= Deliberate Misinformation = Mortal Enemy of ALP = Conceals truth= Distorts facts to protect LNP = Attack dog = Compromises govt employees= Chokes real news feed.
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as if the courrier mail had been a great advocate of Abbot or the current PM..
it is just news targetted to the readers: sport first then current affairs....
 
qldfrog said:
as if the courrier mail had been a great advocate of Abbot or the current PM..
it is just news targetted to the readers: sport first then current affairs....
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I must admit I cancelled my subscription some time ago, but I doubt Christopher Dore has changed his strong affiliation with the LNP? If I went back for 12 months and looked at the front page and the next two inside would I find Labor featured in a sensationalist negative manner more than the LNP in a frustrated with party direction manner?
 
Tisme said:
I must admit I cancelled my subscription some time ago, but I doubt Christopher Dore has changed his strong affiliation with the LNP? If I went back for 12 months and looked at the front page and the next two inside would I find Labor featured in a sensationalist negative manner more than the LNP in a frustrated with party direction manner?
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Just have a look at the pictures they have for Malcolm or T Abbot; even as an ALP member, you will have to admit these are chosen;
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I just went but could only find Morrison, no picture from either leaders ALP/LNP tonight on their website, BrisbaneTime is the same...

I hate that, be it for Shorten or Abbot/MT, the level of propaganda, inept arguments, and now debt has reached 424 billions, and still no change in reforms whereas we have the only PM I had a slight hope could change things, outside of the two idiotic party lines...
not better here than in the US, or europe, democraties turned into a power sharing game between two lobbied rotten gangs
 
Will somebody tell Hillary Clinton to keep her powdered nose out of Australian AFFAIRS......Here is evidence of a fellow named Hepburn who is one of Clintons activists trying to stop the Adami coal project.....


http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...l/news-story/bdfd85e60ae09ce095ca4871198eb4b4


The leader of a foreign-funded, highly orchestrated group of Australian activists working to stop the $16 billion Adani coalmine in Queensland has confirmed links with the Hillary Clinton 2016 Presidential campaign and warned a Clinton administration will “embarrass” the Turnbull Government over coal.

John Hepburn, the executive director of The Sunrise Project, confirmed today the revelations of the foreign-funded campaign against the Adani project by influencing indigenous land owners and environmental legal challenges exposed in briefings to Hillary Clinton’s campaign director.

Mr Hepburn said the revelations via WikiLeaks in The Australian about the previously secret US funding and links with John Podesta, the Clination campaign chairman and former counsellor to Barack Obama, was a warning for the Turnbull government.

“That a major US philanthropist has been emailing the senior adviser to the likely next US President, about the expansion of coal mining in Australia, highlights a major diplomatic risk for the Turnbull government,” Mr Hepburn said in a statement responding to the revelations.

Mr Hepburn said the risk was “that a Clinton administration will hold a mirror to Australia’s climate inaction and pursuit of new coal reserves”.

“It is no surprise that the ongoing expansion of coal mining in Australia is on the radar of Clinton’s most senior adviser. While the world is ratifying the Paris Climate agreement in record time, Australia is becoming a global embarrassment for being the first developed country to go backwards on climate policy and fast-tracking the approval of new coal mines,” Mr Hepburn said.

Foreign funds for Adani lawsuitsOMore: Foreign funds for Adani lawsuits

“With the UN Climate Conference in Marrakesh only weeks away, this leak adds to the wider pattern of international concern over Australia’s failure to meet our international obligations and dogged commitment to give special treatment to the coal industry while the rest of the world rapidly shifts to clean energy,” he said.

“Of course we and other environmental groups are fighting tooth and nail to stop the Adani project,” Mr Hepburn said.

Another group identified as part of the US-funded campaign against coal mining in Australia, GetUp!, confirmed the global campaign and said the Adani mine “had too much power of the major parties” in Australia.

The Sunrise Project, the lead environmental group in the campaign to stop coalmining in Australia, is funded from the multimillion-dollar US Sandler Foundation and boasts in its secret briefings passed on to Mr Podesta that it is trying to hide its funding sources from the Australian parliament.

The previously secret briefings, released by WikiLeaks as part of Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta’s emails, say Sunrise tailored its advice to indigenous communities in northern Queensland, and that the “whole Galilee Basin fossil fuel industrial complex is in its death throes”.

As part of a chain of emails being forwarded from Australia to progressive US foundations funding environmental challenges to industry worldwide, it is also disclosed that an associated group, Human Rights Watch, offered to help the environmental lobby keep its tax-*exempt charity status because “the mining companies seem to own the Liberals (in Australia) and they play very dirty”.

Human Rights Watch chief executive Ken Roth, who *attacked the Coalition’s offshore refugee processing on Nauru before the election in July, also discloses that his group received “charitable status by special parliamentary bill” in the “waning days of the Labor government”.

The Adani mine development, which it is claimed will create 10,000 jobs in construction in Queensland and cheap electric power to tens of millions of poor Indians, has been delayed for at least seven years by various legal challenges, including against a rail line to the coast and the development of a port at Abbot Point.

In a celebratory email to the Sandler Foundation in August last year after a decision against the Adani mine, Sunrise Project director John Hepburn, a former Greenpeace activist and one of the authors of the strategy to block coalmining in Australia, thanks the foundation for support. “Without your support none of this would have happened,” he said.

He added he was going to buy a “few bottles of bubbly” for a celebration with “our colleagues at GetUp!!!!, Greenpeace, 350.org, Australian Youth Climate Coalition, Mackay Conservation Group, Market Forces and the brilliant and tireless Sunrise team”.

Mr Hepburn’s email to the foundation mocked the coal industry for the claim “there is some kind of foreign-funded and tightly orchestrated conspiracy to systemically destroy the Australian coal industry”.

“I seriously don’t know where they get these wacky ideas from!” he said. “Shudder to think that environmentalists would use environmental laws to protect the environment!”

Adani Australia chief executive Jeyakumar Janakaraj yesterday told The Weekend Australian the leaked emails were “evidence that these are broader well-funded activist campaigns as part of a wider anti-coal campaign that is being financially backed and influenced a long way from workers in Australia and those suffering energy poverty in India”.

“The leaks show, however, that the anti-coal campaign is not about the merits of the approval process at all; it’s about activists motivated to stop jobs and investment,” he said.

In a note on the August briefing the Sandler Foundation sent to Mr Podesta, who has not denied the accuracy of the WikiLeaks material, it is written that “our high tolerance for risk on this project (opposing Adani) is paying off!”

Mr Podesta was counsellor to Barack Obama when the US President outraged the Queensland and then Abbott governments on his visit to Brisbane in 2014 for the G20 summit and talked about the danger to the Great Barrier Reef — a key argument used by the groups against Adani.

The email also discloses that the Sunrise Project helped the Environmental Defenders Office — which has mounted various challenges against coal companies — find “private donor funding”.

When he was prime minister Tony Abbott said the campaign against the Adani mine was sabotaging thousands of Australian jobs and denying affordable power to millions in India. In August this year federal Resources Minister Matt Canavan welcomed the latest Federal Court decision in Adani’s favour and called on green groups to stop “grandstanding”.

Note how this Hepburn wants to pop the Champaign to celebrate with his colleagues GETUP and Green Peace.....Not forgetting of course GETUP is an off shoot of the Green/Labor left wing socialist coalition.....Bill Shorten is a foundation member of GETUP and a past board member.
 
noco said:
Will somebody tell Hillary Clinton to keep her powdered nose out of Australian AFFAIRS......Here is evidence of a fellow named Hepburn who is one of Clintons activists trying to stop the Adami coal project.....


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For some reason I thought the state Labor Govt and Federal Lib Govt had given the green light for Adami, but Adami are still looking for a funding source?
 
Tisme said:
For some reason I thought the state Labor Govt and Federal Lib Govt had given the green light for Adami, but Adami are still looking for a funding source?
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It was stated they were trying to stop the Adami project but they have obviously failed.

Do you have a link or information that the Indians are still looking for funding?
 
noco said:
It was stated they were trying to stop the Adami project but they have obviously failed.

Do you have a link or information that the Indians are still looking for funding?
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A simple search for "Adani mine" would give you all the info you need if you bothered, but start off with this

The situation with finance is even worse. A long list of banks and other funding sources have announced they won’t finance the project, or have pulled out of announced and existing finance arrangements.

The list includes the Commonwealth Bank of Australia (formerly a big lender to Adani), NAB, the Queensland Treasury and global banks, including Standard Chartered (another former big lender), Citigroup, JP Morgan Chase, Goldman Sachs, Deutsche Bank, Royal Bank of Scotland, HSBC and Barclays, as well as BNP Paribas, Credit Agricole and Societe Generale. The US and Korean Export-Import banks and the State Bank of India have been touted as possible sources, but appear to have backed away.

https://theconversation.com/adani-should-bow-out-gracefully-from-its-carmichael-coal-mine-64608
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