The Conspiracy Theory thread

[DB008]

Russian Strikes Targeting US-Run Bio-Labs in Ukraine?​

US Bio Labs in Ukraine (1)

US Bio Labs in Ukraine (2)

Ukraine Targets last 24 hours

US Embassy in Ukraine

https://ua.usembassy.gov/embassy/ky...n-office/biological-threat-reduction-program/​

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China, Russia ask UN to check biological warfare strength of US and allies​

China and Russia have jointly called for the US to abide by a United Nations convention on biological weapons, as the powers continue to accuse each other of ramping up their military strength and threatening global safety.​

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The focus on biological weapons has intensified as Beijing and Washington have traded claims that the coronavirus’ origin could be linked to each other’s research in that field – accusations that have been largely rejected by scientists and denied by both governments.​

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The call was made on Thursday at an arms control committee discussion of the UN’s Convention on the Prohibition of the Development, Production and Stockpiling of Bacteriological (Biological) and Toxin Weapons and on their Destruction (BWC).​

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It comes as China and Russia, each of which has rocky relations with Washington and its allies, have been stepping up military cooperation.​

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In a joint statement, the Chinese and Russian foreign ministers called for the abilities of the United States and its allies to be checked and limited, arguing that “in light of rapid advances in the field of science and technology with dual-use capabilities, the risk of biological agents being used as weapons has increased”.​

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“In this context [China and Russia] would like to call for attention that the United States’ and its allies’ overseas military biological activities (over 200 US biological laboratories are deployed outside its national territory, which function in an opaque and non-transparent manner) cause serious concerns and questions among the international community over its compliance with the BWC,” the joint statement said.​

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“The two sides share the view that such activities pose serious risks for the national security of [Russia and China], and are detrimental to the security of relevant regions.”​

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/dip...un-check-biological-warfare-capability-us-and​

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[Knobby22]

Russian Strikes Targeting US-Run Bio-Labs in Ukraine?​

US Bio Labs in Ukraine (1)

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US Bio Labs in Ukraine (2)

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Ukraine Targets last 24 hours

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US Embassy in Ukraine

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https://ua.usembassy.gov/embassy/ky...n-office/biological-threat-reduction-program/​

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China, Russia ask UN to check biological warfare strength of US and allies​

China and Russia have jointly called for the US to abide by a United Nations convention on biological weapons, as the powers continue to accuse each other of ramping up their military strength and threatening global safety.​

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The focus on biological weapons has intensified as Beijing and Washington have traded claims that the coronavirus’ origin could be linked to each other’s research in that field – accusations that have been largely rejected by scientists and denied by both governments.​

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The call was made on Thursday at an arms control committee discussion of the UN’s Convention on the Prohibition of the Development, Production and Stockpiling of Bacteriological (Biological) and Toxin Weapons and on their Destruction (BWC).​

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It comes as China and Russia, each of which has rocky relations with Washington and its allies, have been stepping up military cooperation.​

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In a joint statement, the Chinese and Russian foreign ministers called for the abilities of the United States and its allies to be checked and limited, arguing that “in light of rapid advances in the field of science and technology with dual-use capabilities, the risk of biological agents being used as weapons has increased”.​

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“In this context [China and Russia] would like to call for attention that the United States’ and its allies’ overseas military biological activities (over 200 US biological laboratories are deployed outside its national territory, which function in an opaque and non-transparent manner) cause serious concerns and questions among the international community over its compliance with the BWC,” the joint statement said.​

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“The two sides share the view that such activities pose serious risks for the national security of [Russia and China], and are detrimental to the security of relevant regions.”​

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/dip...un-check-biological-warfare-capability-us-and​

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Its well known that Russia has a very large misinformation unit that has proven very effective in targeting certain gullible segments of USA society to create dissent and promote their causes. Some will read this and thank Russia for invading Ukraine.

Trump would not have set up biological weapons Labs in a region in war for years now, prone to have tech stolen. Honestly a good find on how the Russians operate.

 

[Humid]

Its well known that Russia has a very large misinformation unit that has proven very effective in targeting certain gullible segments of USA society to create dissent and promote their causes. Some will read this and thank Russia for invading Ukrain.

Trump would not have set up biological Labs in a region in war for years now, prone to have tech stolen. Honestly a good find on how they operate.

Same here some think the EV is going to wreck your weekends and won't tow your boat.

 

[moXJO]

Same here some think the EV is going to wreck your weekends and won't tow your boat.

How's your ev going?

 

[Humid]

How's your ev going?

Meh I drive a 7litre twin Holley 465 4 barrel manual stick shift

 

[Humid]

Meh I drive a 7litre twin Holley 465 4 barrel manual stick shift

It's 58 years old

 

[sptrawler]

It's 58 years old

So you do have respect for the elderly, first bit of class you have shown.

 

[PZ99]

Here's my ride...

 

[Investoradam]

 

[Investoradam]

French startup uses battery trailers to cure EV range angst

Paris-based EP Tender says it has found a way to make short-range EVs easier to use on long journeys. It's plan? Battery trailers.

europe.autonews.com

 

[Knobby22]

We saw the biolab weapons conspiracy theory posted earlier (thanks DB).
To read more on disinformation from Russia (and from other sources), read below. Of course if you are a gullible conspiracy theorist you now believe that Ukraine is a secret nazi state working with with some shadowy organisation spending billions putting bioweapon labs right next to the Russian border. Why you wouldn't put them further away such as in Africa or South America is not part of these peoples limited thought process. Honestly, I am sure you can make them think the Queen is a lycanthrope.

False information on Ukraine is running rampant. Read this before you share that post

As the world continues to process Russia's invasion of Ukraine, it's become increasingly difficult to verify what's going on. But fact checkers in and outside the country have been busy debunking misinformation.

www.abc.net.au

 

[wayneL]

We saw the biolab weapons conspiracy theory posted earlier (thanks DB).
To read more on disinformation from Russia (and from other sources), read below. Of course if you are a gullible conspiracy theorist you now believe that Ukraine is a secret nazi state working with with some shadowy organisation spending billions putting bioweapon labs right next to the Russian border. Why you wouldn't put them further away such as in Africa or South America is not part of these peoples limited thought process. Honestly, I am sure you can make them think the Queen is a lycanthrope.

False information on Ukraine is running rampant. Read this before you share that post

As the world continues to process Russia's invasion of Ukraine, it's become increasingly difficult to verify what's going on. But fact checkers in and outside the country have been busy debunking misinformation.

www.abc.net.au

I reckon you have to be pretty gullible to believe or disbelieve anything coming out of the Ukraine at the moment, the truth being the first casualty of war and all that.

None of us know wtf is going on, really.

 

[Knobby22]

I reckon you have to be pretty gullible to believe or disbelieve anything coming out of the Ukraine at the moment, the truth being the first casualty of war and all that.

None of us know wtf is going on, really.

I can let you know.
The main cities are surrounded. They are being bombed by missiles and bomber jets indiscriminately destroying the cities to rubble.

The free peoples of Ukraine will be starved and will have to surrender within a week and live the remainder of their lives in tyranny.

 

[wayneL]

I can let you know.
The main cities are surrounded. They are being bombed by missiles and bomber jets indiscriminately destroying the cities to rubble.

The free peoples of Ukraine will be starved and will have to surrender within a week and live the remainder of their lives in tyranny.

Congratulations. You've regurgitated the narrative and stated some of the obvious surface fluff, but what's behind it all? There is that much propaganda flying around about and I suspect there are deeper layers that are being kept very hidden... as always.

 

[Knobby22]

Congratulations. You've regurgitated the narrative and stated some of the obvious surface fluff, but what's behind it all? There is that much propaganda flying around about and I suspect there are deeper layers that are being kept very hidden... as always.

Of course you do.

 

[moXJO]

It is interesting the narrative "then" vs "now" via media.

How a White-Supremacist Militia Uses Facebook to Radicalize and Train New Members

This Ukrainian militant group’s use of social media has been key to their international growth

time.com

So was it media being influenced, or influencing?

 

[moXJO]

So I like to unwind things sometimes that don't feel right. Not always right and in this instance am not saying one side is right or wrong. Also going to just briefly pick at things.

So the azov movement...
These are apparently a far right movement that's been recruiting round the world. You may remember the NZ mosque shooter:

A black sun symbol was used by the Christchurch shooter. I see it all over Europe

The Christchurch shooter had a black sun symbol emblazoned on his rucksack. I've seen it all over Eastern Europe, and it is clear the shooter matters to far-right groups there, writes Michael Colborne.

www.google.com.au

Christchurch shooter: inspired by al-Qaeda?

Links have emerged between the shooter and a Ukrainian ultranationalist, white supremacist paramilitary organisation which draws on ideology, strategy and recruitment tactics that bear the hallmarks of jihadist groups

amp.scmp.com

Now it's "claimed" he trained with azov. But this movement seems to be on a few watch lists.

How a White-Supremacist Militia Uses Facebook to Radicalize and Train New Members

This Ukrainian militant group’s use of social media has been key to their international growth

time.com

White supremacist threat rising, security experts warn

WASHINGTON - The Christchurch mosque massacres have turned the spotlight on rising white supremacism in America, where right-wing terrorists have inflicted considerable violence. Read more at straitstimes.com.

www.straitstimes.com

Now it's possible this has been a long propaganda exercise by the Russians.

But it's funnier if the left are funding Nazis to blow up commies.

 

[mullokintyre]

Statistics, polls etc, can show anything you want them to show.
The following Poll results may or may not be accurate, but it kinda reflects the idea that the older you get, the more wary of thongs one becomes.
History is a great teacher, as long as you experience it oneself, rather than reading someone else's view of history.
From The Australian

Young Australians are the most likely to believe in conspiracy theories, including that global warming and Covid-19 are hoaxes, the moon landing was faked, the Holocaust was a lie, the US government was responsible for the September 11 terror attacks and human contact with aliens has been deliberately hidden from the public.
A poll by YouGov Cambridge showed a sizeable minority of adult Australians believed in conspiracies, although over-65s were the least likely to accept them.

The poll of more than 1076 respondents showed 17 per cent of 18 to 35-year-olds believe the Covid-19 virus was a myth created by “powerful forces”, compared with 4 per cent of over-65s.
A third of under-35s think the harmful effects of Covid vaccines are being deliberately hidden from the public, well above the 14 per cent of over-65s who believe the vaccine conspiracy.

Thirty per cent of under-35s believe the US government facilitated the 9/11 attacks, with that dropping to 9 per cent of over-65s.

A quarter of Greens voters believed the US government was responsible for the attacks, compared with 18 per cent of Coalition voters and 15 per cent of Labor voters.

Twenty per cent of under-35s think global warming is a hoax, marginally higher than other age groups.

Twenty-four per cent of Coalition voters who were polled thought man-made global warming was a hoax, compared with 10 per cent of Labor voters and 14 per cent of Greens voters.

Twenty-four per cent of under-35s believe the moon landing was faked, 19 per cent are Holocaust deniers and 20 per cent believe AIDS was created and spread around the world by a secret group or organisation.

Astronaut Edwin 'Buzz' Aldrin, on the moon following the 1969 Apollo 11 landing. But conspiracy theorists have a different idea about what went on.
Twenty-nine per cent of under-35s believe the 2020 presidential election was stolen, while the same number think a secret group of Satan-worshipping pedophiles has taken control of parts of the US government and mainstream media.

The question that bucked the trend was on whether members of Donald Trump’s team knowingly worked with the Russian government to help him win the 2016 election.

While 40 per cent of under-35s thought this was true, it was the lowest of all age brackets, with 44 per cent of over-65s believing it.

YouGov Asia Pacific head of polling Campbell White said the research was at odds with community perceptions of older people being more likely to believe in conspiracies.

“There is a stereotype that conspiracy theories are the preserve of cranky old middle-aged men,” Dr White said. “Maybe (the higher rates for under-35s) is to do with growing up in a period of time where truth is seen as less certain or less objective. It surprised me when I looked at it.”

Dr White said Australia was typically “slightly below average” in global rates of people who believe in conspiracies, with the same polling being done in 24 countries.

Developing nations typically registered the highest proportion of people who believed in the conspiracy theories, including South Africa, Nigeria, Kenya, India and Indonesia.

These countries tend to have a much younger average age, as its tough to live to a ripe old age in these rather tough economies.
Hence it may help to skew the numers somewhat.

Japan, Sweden, Denmark, Great Britain and Germany were among the nations with a relatively low number of people who believed in the conspiracies.

Japan in particular, has a population where the average age is much higher than the developed countries.
It also help to skew the results somewhat.
The number sampled is also extremely small, so as much as I would like to ho nya nya nya to the kiddies and their conspiracy theories, I am not convinced its valid.
Mick
Mick

 

[DB008]

Biden Official Says US Working with Ukraine to Prevent Bio Research Facilities
from Falling into Russian Hands​

On Tuesday, Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs Victoria Nuland told the Senate that the US is working to protect biological research labs in Ukraine:​

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"Ukraine has biological research facilities, which in fact we are now quite concerned Russian forces may be seeking to gain control of, so we are working with the Ukrainians on how they can prevent any of those research materials from falling into the hands of Russian forces should they approach," Nuland told the US Senate Foreign Relations Committee in a hearing.​

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The response came in regards to a question from Senator Marco Rubio, who asked: "Does Ukraine have chemical or biological weapons?"​

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Just a few days ago, we were told by our very own Pravda press that the existence of Ukrainian biolabs was “Russian propaganda.”​

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