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It's not so much that Russia and China would be worst to live under, they are. It's whether or not we could do better than our own current situation against those ideals we (the US) keep yapping on about.
 
Conspiracy insanity in the USA

Just to prove beyond any possible shadow of a doubt how total xucking insanity has spread in the US. This mad clown was an aide to the state representative.

AND he chose to promote this cruel madness using his official capacity.

Florida Republican's aide fired for false suggestion shooting survivors are actors
Benjamin Kelly, an aide to state representative Shawn Harrison, repeated a conspiracy theory often used after mass shootings

Sam Levin in San Francisco

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Wed 21 Feb 2018 01.25 GMT Last modified on Wed 21 Feb 2018 01.26 GMT


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David Hogg, a senior at Marjory Stoneman Douglas, has been the target of conspiracy videos spreading on YouTube. Photograph: Jonathan Drake/Reuters
An aide to a Florida lawmaker was fired after falsely suggesting that student survivors of the mass shooting in Parkland were “actors”, repeating a conspiracy theory that has been used to harass victims.

Benjamin Kelly, an aide to Republican state representative Shawn Harrison, was terminated after a reporter published his email attacking the students who have become vocal advocates for stricter gun laws after surviving the Marjory Stoneman Douglas high school massacre that killed 17 people last week.


US gun violence spawns a new epidemic: conspiracy theorists harassing victims
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Kelly emailed a Tampa Bay Times reporter on Tuesday, saying two of the outspoken high schoolers “are not students here but actors that travel to various crisis when they happen”. When asked for evidence, Kelly sent a link to a YouTube conspiracy video targeting one of the students, the newspaper reported.

Late Tuesday, Harrison announced that Kelly had been fired and said he was “appalled at and strongly denounce his comments”, adding that he was “sorry for any pain this has caused the grieving families of this tragedy”.

In recent years, mass shooting survivors and victims’ families have been subjected to online harassment and attacks from conspiracy theorists who go viral on social media by falsely claiming the tragedies were hoaxes and that witnesses and grieving relatives were paid “crisis actors”. Often they have claimed the government staged the shootings to advance gun control policies.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...y-theory-actors-benjamin-kelly-shawn-harrison
 

Students in question are Emma Gonzalez and David Hogg, the reporter Alex Leary.

David hails from California, but posts on social media as living in Stoneman since 2015, unless he's holidaying in California where he originated his youtube vine.

It seems Benji didn't notice the two year time sandwich posts from Stoneman town.
 
How about Order of the Quest style conspiracies:

Bet none of you can identify which secret society Canberra's plan view represents. Parliament house, roads and grounds is a symbol in itself when viewed from above.
 
The Ultimate Conspiracy theory.

The Conspiracy theory that says Trump is a Genius

Don't say you haven't been told. QAnon is here. This is a taste of where thay are at.

Last week Roseanne Barr — who, with the hit reboot of her show, has become one of the most prominent Donald Trump supporters in the country — tweeted that the president has freed hundreds of children a month from sexual bondage. “He has broken up trafficking rings in high places everywhere,” she wrote. (The tweet has since been deleted.)

Barr’s tweet, puzzling to the casual observer, was a reference to QAnon, an expansive, complicated pro-Trump conspiracy theory. The theory is fascinating as an artifact of our current political derangement, but more than that, it’s profoundly revealing about the lengths to which some Trump supporters will go to convince themselves that his presidency is going well.

As Paris Martineau explained in New York Magazine, QAnon was born last October, when someone claiming to have “Q” level security clearance started a cryptic thread on 4chan, the online message board and troll playground. It was titled, “The Calm Before the Storm,” a phrase Trump had recently used. Q posted hints, some in the form of questions, ostensibly meant to help clued-in Trump supporters understand what was really going on in Washington beneath the facade of chaos and incompetence. (“What is military intelligence? Why go around the 3 letter agencies?”)

From these clues, a sprawling community on message boards, YouTube videos and Twitter accounts has elaborated an enormous, ever-mutating fantasy narrative about the Trump presidency. In the QAnon reality, Trump only pretended to collude with Russia in order to create a pretext for the hiring of Robert Mueller, the special counsel, who is actually working with Trump to take down an inconceivably evil and powerful network of coup-plotters and child sex traffickers that includes Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama and George Soros.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/06/...=WhatsNext&contentID=WhatsNext&pgtype=article

Want to learn more about QAnon ?
https://www.exopolitics.org/president-trump-validates-qanon-how-will-ufo-ssp-disclosure-happen/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-barr-tweet-explained/?utm_term=.cf23e9f68a49
 

Does it pass the Family Guy test?


 
There is reason why many of us think the CIA, MI5 and various other free world spook agencies are as much danger to us as an enemy.

This is a horrific story because not only did it happen but it was continually re buried whenever the evidence rose to the surface.

Britain apologises for 'appalling treatment' of Abdel Hakim Belhaj
Theresa May apologises unreservedly for UK role in rendition of Libyan, who was jailed and tortured, and his wife
Ian Cobain, Owen Bowcott and Pippa Crerar in London, and Kareem Shaheen in Istanbul

Thu 10 May 2018 19.49 BST First published on Thu 10 May 2018 12.46 BST

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Abdel Hakim Belhaj with the letter of apology fat the British consulate in Istanbul. Photograph: Ozan Kose/AFP/Getty Images
Theresa May has issued an unprecedented apology for Britain’s role in the “appalling” treatment of a Libyan dissident and his wife, who were victims of a rendition operation mounted with the help of MI6.

The prime minister wrote to Abdel Hakim Belhaj and his wife, Fatima Boudchar, to apologise unreservedly on behalf of the government for its failings over the case and missed opportunities to end their ordeal.

The attorney general, Jeremy Wright, read out May’s letter in the Commons as he announced that Boudchar, who was pregnant when the couple were kidnapped, would receive £500,000 compensation for the UK’s role in her treatment. Belhaj has neither sought, nor received, a financial settlement.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...for-appalling-treatment-of-abdel-hakim-belhaj
 
Well worth reading this story in full.

Libyan rendition: how UK's role in kidnap of families came to light
In 2005, Jack Straw told MPs reports of the rendition of two Libyan families were ‘conspiracy theories’

Ian Cobain

Thu 10 May 2018 18.15 BST Last modified on Thu 10 May 2018 22.44 BST

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Abdel Hakim Belhaj made clear he did not want money – and has not received any – but that he did want an apology, especially for his wife. Photograph: Ozan Kose/AFP/Getty Images
The fires of Libya’s revolution were still burning when, in September 2011, a handful of militiamen and human rights activists made an extraordinary discovery in an outpost of Colonel Muammar Gaddafi’s main intelligence agency, the External Security Organisation (ESO).

On shelves around the walls of one office, inside one folder after another, were hundreds of pages of secret communications between the ESO, the CIA and MI6, and between Gaddafi and Tony Blair.

These papers showed beyond doubt that all three agencies had been involved in the kidnap and torture of two of Gaddafi’s opponents, Abdel Hakim Belhaj and Sami al-Saadi. Moreover, they had also been involved in the kidnap and severe mistreatment of the men’s wives, Fatima Boudchar and Karima al-Saadi, and Saadi’s four children, the youngest aged six. Boudchar was four and a half months pregnant when she was kidnapped.

The two families had been abducted in Bangkok and Hong Kong and flown to Tripoli in separate “rendition” operations 17 days apart, in March 2004. In between, Blair had paid his first visit to Tripoli, embracing Gaddafi and declaring that they were making “common cause” against al-Qaida and terrorism.

These documents nailed as a lie the mantra that British government officials repeated whenever allegations of involvement in post-9/11 human rights abuses were raised: that the government did not “participate in, solicit, encourage or condone” the use of torture.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...uks-role-in-kidnap-of-two-families-unravelled
 
It's started...

Anthony Bourdain took Chantix to quit smoking, a drug that has more cases of suicidal thoughts, self-harm, and homicidal thoughts than any other drug, by a more than three-fold margin.

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South Africa's 'paedophile' minister and a mysterious death​

South Africa has been gripped by the mysterious death of former police officer Mark Minnie, just a week after he revealed horrific details about an alleged paedophile ring in the once-feared white-minority government that portrayed itself as being made up of devout Christian men.

Minnie, 58, was found with a bullet to his head, but many people are refusing to believe the police version - that he took his own life at the farm of a friend near the coastal city of Port Elizabeth.

"The fact that the suicide note was found doesn't necessarily mean he wrote it willingly. I mean he could've written it under duress. The fact that he shot himself with someone else's pistol already raises questions," investigative journalist and author Jacques Pauw told South Africa's radio 702.

Minnie and journalist Chris Steyn co-authored The Lost Boys of Bird Island, which details shocking allegations against Magnus Malan, the once-powerful defence minister who was accused of setting up death squads and sanctioning military raids on neighbouring states as he fought to maintain white-supremacist rule in South Africa in the 1980s and 1990s.

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A look at the Israel/Mossad Links to 9-11. 60 Israeli people arrested ranging from members of the Israeli army to intelligence agency's, this news footage shows how Israeli intelligence community vigorously spy's on The United States government and it's people, plus that they had at least advanced knowledge of the September 11th attacks on New York.
 
Jeffrey Epstein’s Safe Had ‘Piles of Cash’ and a Fake Passport, Prosecutors Say
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Two women who say they were sexually abused by Mr. Epstein also urged the judge to deny him bail ahead of his sex-trafficking trial.

Investigators discovered a safe in Jeffrey Epstein’s Manhattan mansion that held “piles of cash,” diamonds and an expired passport from a foreign country which had what appeared to be Mr. Epstein’s photo, but was registered to a fake name and listed his residence as Saudi Arabia.

Prosecutors revealed the safe’s contents as they argued in Federal District Court in Manhattan that Mr. Epstein should be denied bail before his sex-trafficking and conspiracy trial because he was a flight risk and a danger to the community. He is accused of abusing dozens of underage girls at his residences in New York City and Palm Beach, Fla.​



It is looking like Epstein was a spy all along (CIA/Mossad/GIP)

His island, plane and NY home were honeytraps to blackmail powerful people and politicians.

Epstein has leverage on everyone due to blackmail, which made him virtually untouchable.

Anonymous claimed in 2016 that the Israeli government has a sex tape of Bill Clinton with an underaged girl?

Virginia Guthrie has officially stated that she saw Clinton visit Epstein’s island on several occasions with underaged girls, and she asked Epstein why Clinton was there. Epstein laughed and said, "He owes me a favor". Then Guthrie went onto also state that Epstein would like information on anyone who Guthrie slept with because Epstein wanted the info to blackmail them. The primary victim Virginia who is most highly publicized and was Epstein's slave's firsthand account she told her lawyers. She also said Ghislaine Maxwell was in on the actual assaults. Her father, Robert Maxwell, was Mossad.
 
Ghislaine Maxwell did not kill herself, neither did Covid 19 kill her.
 
Lawyer for Epstein victims thinks Ghislaine Maxwell
will die in jail
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Ghislaine Maxwell will likely kill herself or “be silenced” in jail, a victim lawyer has reportedly predicted — a year after he correctly forecast Jeffrey Epstein’s early death behind bars.

“I don’t think she is going to get out of jail alive,” Spencer Kuvin, an attorney for several Epstein victims, told The Daily Mail.

“I said the same thing about Jeffrey Epstein and people laughed at me,” he told the news site.

“I think she knows way too much information — I just have this gut feeling.”

Maxwell, who was arrested Thursday by the feds on charges she groomed underage women to have with Epstein, is currently being held without bail at Merrimack County Jail in New Hampshire.

Experts told the Post Friday that there’s a good chance the 58-year old British socialite will be transferred to Lower Manhattan’s Metropolitan Correctional Center — the same facility where officials say Epstein hanged himself last August while awaiting trial for sex trafficking.​

Kuvin told the outlet there are a few reasons why he feels Maxwell will endure the same fate as Epstein.

“It may be that she can’t handle the fear of what’s going to happen to her and takes matters into her own hands or there will be people who are very afraid of what she has to say,” he said.

Prosecutors on Thursday did not rule out the possibility of Maxwell cooperating in their investigation.

“In the event that if she even were to become a cooperator, I think we could deal with that,” Audrey Strauss, the acting US attorney for the Southern District of New York, said in response to a question about a perjury charge brought against Maxwell.​

 
SirRumpole said:
More on QAnon.

They sound like a right group of nutters (get the doublr entendre ? )

https://www.abc.net.au/news/science...ory-is-affecting-australian-families/12564566
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Scary story.
Certainly heightens concern about people becoming entangled entrenched in a mindset that is frankly dangerously crackers. The main tenet of QAnon ?

What is QAnon?
QAnon's followers broadly believe that US President Donald Trump is waging a secret war against corrupt and child-abusing elites, including parts of government (dubbed the "deep state") and A-list celebrities.

One supporter, a newly nominated Republican candidate, is reported to have called the enemy in this war a "worldwide cabal of Satan-worshiping paedophiles".

And QAnon theorists follow an anonymous figure called "Q", who leaves cryptic clues in internet forums about Trump's next moves in the "war".
 
Trump supporters are slashing their tyres in support of the President’s Goodyear boycott

Trump supporters across America have taken knives to their own vehicles, after the President urged them to boycott tyre brand Goodyear.

It follows Goodyear’s decision to ban its staff from wearing political clothing, including MAGA hats.

“I’m gonna drive down to get me a new set of Michelins,” Johnny Walter from Idaho said, before realising he couldn’t drive anywhere because his truck’s tyres were slashed. “Well who the hell did that now?” he said, before putting on a Make America Great Again hat and slashing the tyres of his wife’s car.

Sally Annesley from North Carolina said she was sick of ‘unAmerican’ companies like Goodyear meddling in politics and would replace the tyres on her Toyota with a more patriotic brand like Yokohama.

“Real patriots drive with Yokohamas” she said.
https://www.theshovel.com.au/2020/08/20/trump-supporters-slashing-tyres-goodyear-boycott/
 
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