The Biden Presidency

[DB008]

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[rederob]

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Your posts are a disgrace.
It's a matter of public record that Biden cannot always get the right words out.

 

[basilio]

Your posts are a disgrace.
It's a matter of public record that Biden cannot always get the right words out.

And like that clip is so important in the overall performance of Joe Biden.

Why don't we go back to that lying, poisonous piece of merde who ran 25,000 plus pieces of lies and misinformation across an infamous 4 years term and finished with a blast by trying to overthrow the election results with a citizen army who swallowed his lies ?

Yeah that would be great.

 

[moXJO]

Your posts are a disgrace.
It's a matter of public record that Biden cannot always get the right words out.

What, are you in "dear leader" mode or something?

His post was indeed factual and on topic

 

[rederob]

What, are you in "dear leader" mode or something?

His post was indeed factual and on topic

It was just a pathetic rehash of his well known disability.
Furthermore, it never met any of the criteria that @Joe Blow requests from us.
However, if you think opposite, then - in the inimitable words of a certain poli - please explain.

 

[moXJO]

It was just a pathetic rehash of his well known disability.
Furthermore, it never met any of the criteria that @Joe Blow requests from us.
However, if you think opposite, then - in the inimitable words of a certain poli - please explain.

George dubbya was worse than Biden and constantly quoted. Stupidly funny though.

However Biden seems to be more health/age related. And he is making a few gaffes. He recently mentioned that there was no vaccine before he came to power. Along with some other glaring lies.

Posting a video of a Truthful event wasn't against the rules. Not after the hundreds of bs articles that were posted. I noticed Bas was quick to attack when he was the main offender previously.

A presidents cognitive ability is pretty important don't you think?

Especially at this point in time.

 

[moXJO]

You ain't no Joe either Rob. You'd be like China as a moderator in GC.

 

[rederob]

George dubbya was worse than Biden and constantly quoted. Stupidly funny though.

However Biden seems to be more health/age related. And he is making a few gaffes. He recently mentioned that there was no vaccine before he came to power. Along with some other glaring lies.

Posting a video of a Truthful event wasn't against the rules. Not after the hundreds of bs articles that were posted. I noticed Bas was quick to attack when he was the main offender previously.

A presidents cognitive ability is pretty important don't you think?

Especially at this point in time.

By all means post videos that are explanatory, or which assist in making a point.
@DB008's post did neither.
However you are defending the mocking of a person with a known disability, which is plain and simple deplorable.
Then you try to justify it with a false equivalence.
And you compound your error by suggesting, without evidence, that Biden has a cognitive problem. As he realised he used the wrong word, he clearly has no cognitive impairment.
On the other hand there is Trump still insisting - without evidence - he won. Most informed commentators regard Trump's claims as delusional.

 

[SirRumpole]

Hopefully this thread can stick to policy instead of harping on a small defect Biden has.

People have known about this for a long time and they still voted for him.

Case closed.

 

[Joe Blow]

Is this thread ever going to rise above petty personal slights, endless bicking and ten second clips of Joe Biden from Twitter?

There is so much of substance to discuss, but nothing of substance ever gets discussed.

Here's a list of Executive Orders signed by Joe Biden. Surely there's something there to discuss? Biden freezing out the Saudis ahead of the publication of a US intelligence report on Jamal Khashoggi's murder? Worth debating?

I don't care if you love Biden or hate him, just post something interesting or thought provoking please.

I'll give this thread another week, and if nothing changes I'll consider it a lost cause and close it.

 

[rederob]

Since coming into office, Biden has been more "popular" than Trump ever was:

Here's how Presidents rate since 1981:

Interestingly, since polling began Trump is the only president who has never gone over 50% during any term.

 

[moXJO]

Is this thread ever going to rise above petty personal slights, endless bicking and ten second clips of Joe Biden from Twitter?

There is so much of substance to discuss, but nothing of substance ever gets discussed.

Here's a list of Executive Orders signed by Joe Biden. Surely there's something there to discuss? Biden freezing out the Saudis ahead of the publication of a US intelligence report on Jamal Khashoggi's murder? Worth debating?

I don't care if you love Biden or hate him, just post something interesting or thought provoking please.

I'll give this thread another week, and if nothing changes I'll consider it a lost cause and close it.

It's basically Obama/Trump lite in most regards.

Where were you the first 4 years of Trump?
Now you think it's a problem?
I'd say the problem began a while back and this is the end result.

US politics has so far been one big cluster fluck.

 

[Joe Blow]

It's basically Obama/Trump lite in most regards.

Where were you the first 4 years of Trump?
Now you think it's a problem?
I'd say the problem began a while back and this is the end result.

US politics has so far been one big cluster fluck.

Honestly, I wish it would all just go away and I don't understand how as Australians we have become obsessed with it. Why have so many Australians invested so much emotion into foreign politicians? It's like someone has put something into the water and now everyone is obsessed with US politics and elections. Has everyone bought into the media sideshow like some kind of gaudy reality TV series? Sorry, but I don't get it.

In any case, it has become a problem. The problem may have begun a while back, but it has increasingly become more of a problem. The insults, trolling, dummy spits and misinformation that has been posted in threads on Trump and Biden is mind boggling. 95% of the problems on ASF can be found exclusively in these threads on US politics.

What makes it all the more worse is that the level of debate in them is extremely low. So not only do these threads cause all the problems, but the content in them is marginal at best. Unless things change, it's just not worth keeping them open. Perhaps some moderates on both sides can salvage them? I don't know. But I'm rapidly losing patience.

 

[rederob]

It's basically Obama/Trump lite in most regards.

Where were you the first 4 years of Trump?
Now you think it's a problem?
I'd say the problem began a while back and this is the end result.

US politics has so far been one big cluster fluck.

Most Americans - see above polls - remained dissatisfied with Trump throughout his Presidency.
However, as this is a thread about Biden, I will be brief.
Biden on inauguration has promoted transparency and inclusiveness. He has also acted in a manner that Americans regard as Presidential - a theme that eluded Trump.
And as already pointed out in this thread, BIden has been relentless in pushing through Executive Orders consistent with his election promises.
On the international front Biden has drawn the USA back into the fold, acting on the basis that you cant lead if you were not part of the race.
More recently Biden has been fleshing out his foreign policies, and no favour is being shown to nations he holds in low regard. For now his stance on China remains largely the status quo. If he is smart he will resume bilateral negotiations without prejudice, and look for gains in areas where China remains dependent on US technological superiority. The story sold to the public about Chinese equipment sales giving access to sensitive US military and domestic information/trade secrets is a furphy. That's about software and vulnerabilities, not hardware, and the dooe is open to anyone smart enough - they don't have to be Chinese or Russian.

 

[rederob]

Honestly, I wish it would all just go away and I don't understand how as Australians we have become obsessed with it. Why have so many Australians invested so much emotion into foreign politicians? It's like someone has put something into the water and now everyone is obsessed with US politics and elections. Has everyone bought into the media sideshow like some kind of gaudy reality TV series? Sorry, but I don't get it.

In any case, it has become a problem. The problem may have begun a while back, but it has increasingly become more of a problem. The insults, trolling, dummy spits and misinformation that has been posted in threads on Trump and Biden is mind boggling. 95% of the problems on ASF can be found exclusively in these threads on US politics.

What makes it all the more worse is that the level of debate in them is extremely low. So not only do these threads cause all the problems, but the content in them is marginal at best. Unless things change, it's just not worth keeping them open. Perhaps some moderates on both sides can salvage them? I don't know. But I'm rapidly losing patience.

In a nutshell, many of Trump's policies and leanings were latched onto by Morrison in a big way. Some had negative consequences. It's no surprise, for example, that China punished a few of our industry sectors (Treasury Wines lost almost 25% in a few days), unless you think that the USA's actions to impose tariffs on Chinese goods didn't set them a precedent.
On the other hand, we now have Biden pushing a climate change agenda that Morrison seems reluctant to follow. And the preferred means of getting global action on climate is to put a cost on carbon. Clearly that will not happen quickly, if at all. But it will accelerate the trend of major institutions to steer away from investing in or lending to projects that have a high carbon footprint. In Australia, that's a massive share of our mining/drilling sectors.

 

[SirRumpole]

It will be interesting to see if the US and the rest of the five eyes take a more aggressive stance on cyber attacks by C...a.

Will they (we) respond in kind and do to them what they do to us ?

Some would hope so. Attacks on our infrastructure are an act of war, if we let them go on, C...a will get an advantage.

 

[basilio]

There is plenty to say about the considerable improvement in US politics since the change in Presidency.

One overarching reality is the blessed absence of relentless aggressive, nonsense tweets intended to suck the oxygen out of policy discussions and turn political discourse into tribal, hate filled rage. That doesn't change everything immediately of course, but at least people can see that politics doesn't have to be about The Leaders relentless obsessions with creating a personality cult.

Adding to that we now see a far broader set of political figures making decisions and implementing policy directions. The revised response to the COVID vaccinations brings a focus on expertise vs political loyalty and kowtowing to the daily tweeting madness that blighted politics in the US.

There are also signs of some bi partisianship in US politics - acknowledged by both sides of politics. The recent bi partisan meeting called by President Biden to develop policies to support US industry problems with micro chip shortages was well received by all parties.

The the new Government is determined to repair and restore international relationships that were arbitrarily discarded by the previous administration. Re joining WHO. Rejoining the Paris CC accord. Re establishing constructive dialogue with NATO. Far harder to restore trust once it has been trashed.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2021/02/23/biden-semiconductor-shortage-meeting/

 

[sptrawler]

Well @moXJO it looks as though Trump has actually woken the U.S up to what has been happening, if you read this article.
So in reality he has achieved what most hoped he would, alert the World to the fact the multinationals offshoring all their production, puts the West in a precarious position.
Meanwhile the muppets are still hung up on personalities, such a nasty man and the the carrot hair dye 'nasty'.
However now his opinion is proving right and they are acting on it.
Oh well, all's well that ends well.

Biden’s trade attack on China will reverberate around the world

The world is experiencing a significant turning point in what for decades has been the increasingly China-centric globalisation of manufacturing.

www.smh.com.au

From the article:
President Joe Biden’s ordering of a 100-day review of vulnerabilities in America’s supply chains highlights the dependence the US, and other developed economies, have on third-country suppliers, especially China, for products and technologies critical to their medical, industrial and defence sectors.

Most developed countries, including Australia, found themselves scrambling for personal protective equipment and pharmaceuticals at the onset of the pandemic, taken aback at how dependent they had become on China, and are now assessing how to “re-shore” the most critical manufacturing capacities.

The US reliance on external supply for a product where US companies dominate the design of the chips, their manufacturing process and their ales – US companies account for roughly half global sales of computer chips but only about 12 per cent of their manufacture – has been exposed by the combination of the pandemic.
Taiwan, South Korea and Japan dominate chip manufacturing. China has invested massive amounts in subsidies and incentives and poached thousands of engineers from Taiwan and elsewhere to try to develop its own industry but has struggled to catch up to the speed at which the technology and the intellectual property that powers it develops.

It does design and manufacture chips – Huawei designs the chips for its 5G equipment and smartphones – but can’t produce the advanced chips that are central to technologies like artificial intelligence, machine learning and the Internet of Things.
The US Congress has authorised subsidies for companies that invest in domestic chip research and manufacturing but not appropriated the funding for what would be a massively expensive program – semiconductor production is arguably the most sophisticated and challenging manufacturing process ever developed.

The current chip shortage has highlighted America’s vulnerability to external shocks but the transformation in the relationship with – and US perceptions of – China during the Trump presidency is a key motivator of the push for reshoring.

The US and, indeed, the rest of the world were slow to recognise the significance of China’s dominance and its implications for their economies and existing geopolitical settings and only recently began scrambling to respond.

It has, for instance, an estimated 70 per cent of the lithium battery market vital for electric vehicles, smartphones and laptops, among other products.

Again, the US and, indeed, the rest of the world were slow to recognise the significance of China’s dominance and its implications for their economies and existing geopolitical settings and only recently began scrambling to respond.
The US, Australia and South America have plentiful reserves and production of lithium but, despite the cost of transporting heavy units from China to the major markets, haven’t developed meaningful processing and manufacturing capacity.
The review Biden has commissioned of America’s key supply chain vulnerabilities comes late in the day and any recommendations will take some years, and probably billions of US taxpayer dollars of incentives and subsidies, to make a material difference.

???

I think with Biden, we are in for a case of Trump 'lite', but Trump certainly set the agenda.

 

[Smurf1976]

Honestly, I wish it would all just go away and I don't understand how as Australians we have become obsessed with it. Why have so many Australians invested so much emotion into foreign politicians? It's like someone has put something into the water and now everyone is obsessed with US politics and elections. Has everyone bought into the media sideshow like some kind of gaudy reality TV series? Sorry, but I don't get it.

My theory is that it's a product of Australian politics.

Many can see there are problems, some of them quite serious, in Australia but it's a pragmatic reality that no side of politics in this country is offering solutions. Far from being statesmen, our politicians descend to schoolboy antics and at best focus on issues that ought to be handled by the public service acting apolitically or in some cases private enterprise not the elected government.

That being so, people are subconsciously drawn toward anyone else who might turn out to be a leader and as countries of relevance go, the US easily tops the list with the UK running a distant second.

That Australians seem to hold the PM of New Zealand in high regard is another example of that looking for anyone who might provide leadership.

 

[moXJO]

Well @moXJO it looks as though Trump has actually woken the U.S up to what has been happening, if you read this article.
So in reality he has achieved what most hoped he would, alert the World to the fact the multinationals offshoring all their production, puts the West in a precarious position.
Meanwhile the muppets are still hung up on personalities, such a nasty man and the the carrot hair dye 'nasty'.
However now his opinion is proving right and they are acting on it.
Oh well, all's well that ends well.

Biden’s trade attack on China will reverberate around the world

The world is experiencing a significant turning point in what for decades has been the increasingly China-centric globalisation of manufacturing.

www.smh.com.au

From the article:
President Joe Biden’s ordering of a 100-day review of vulnerabilities in America’s supply chains highlights the dependence the US, and other developed economies, have on third-country suppliers, especially China, for products and technologies critical to their medical, industrial and defence sectors.

Most developed countries, including Australia, found themselves scrambling for personal protective equipment and pharmaceuticals at the onset of the pandemic, taken aback at how dependent they had become on China, and are now assessing how to “re-shore” the most critical manufacturing capacities.

The US reliance on external supply for a product where US companies dominate the design of the chips, their manufacturing process and their ales – US companies account for roughly half global sales of computer chips but only about 12 per cent of their manufacture – has been exposed by the combination of the pandemic.
Taiwan, South Korea and Japan dominate chip manufacturing. China has invested massive amounts in subsidies and incentives and poached thousands of engineers from Taiwan and elsewhere to try to develop its own industry but has struggled to catch up to the speed at which the technology and the intellectual property that powers it develops.

It does design and manufacture chips – Huawei designs the chips for its 5G equipment and smartphones – but can’t produce the advanced chips that are central to technologies like artificial intelligence, machine learning and the Internet of Things.
The US Congress has authorised subsidies for companies that invest in domestic chip research and manufacturing but not appropriated the funding for what would be a massively expensive program – semiconductor production is arguably the most sophisticated and challenging manufacturing process ever developed.

The current chip shortage has highlighted America’s vulnerability to external shocks but the transformation in the relationship with – and US perceptions of – China during the Trump presidency is a key motivator of the push for reshoring.

It has, for instance, an estimated 70 per cent of the lithium battery market vital for electric vehicles, smartphones and laptops, among other products.

Again, the US and, indeed, the rest of the world were slow to recognise the significance of China’s dominance and its implications for their economies and existing geopolitical settings and only recently began scrambling to respond.
The US, Australia and South America have plentiful reserves and production of lithium but, despite the cost of transporting heavy units from China to the major markets, haven’t developed meaningful processing and manufacturing capacity.
The review Biden has commissioned of America’s key supply chain vulnerabilities comes late in the day and any recommendations will take some years, and probably billions of US taxpayer dollars of incentives and subsidies, to make a material difference.

???

I think with Biden, we are in for a case of Trump 'lite', but Trump certainly set the agenda.

He got a lot of calls right but had problems with the execution. He moved into areas the others were too scared to go for fear of the backlash.