Media wise and thread wise.
I predicted a Biden win months out. Pretty sure I expected it. I don't need to "deal with it".
I predicted a Biden win months out. Pretty sure I expected it. I don't need to "deal with it".
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It looks quite reactionary to me because that's exactly what the pro Trump posters have been doing as well mate.
Think Babylon Bee and hearing aids for starters - I could provide examples but I did put those folks on ignore partly because they posted continual bs and partly because they started trolling when challenged. As for Fcking please if they did this trolling on other sites they would've been banned long ago... which is probably why they frequent this one.
Of course now the people have voted for change we will probably have to sit through 4 years of feverish anti Biden / Harris postings which is fine by me because it'll demonstrate the rank hypocrisy which is synonymous with those who still think Trump has won the election.
It'll also do me a favour because I made it clear that once Trump is gone I'd like Biden gone straight after that, as well as Pelosi and all those other skeletons.
Americans need to flush this toilet.
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What you might have to deal with is a President who doesn't follow the wrecking ball path that Trump took in office.
Wantonly crushing Iran simply to undermine Obamas work. Destroying Nato alliances. Supporting authoritarian governments around the world. Cutting environmental regulations across the US to allow unchecked industrial pollution. Selling off US parks to oil/mining interests. Attempting to destroy the nascent US public health system - again becasue Obama got it off teh ground
You will also have to deal with a President that talks in full sentences and doesn't preface every comment with "Don't believe the Fake News media - just take anything I say as the word of God."
You'll have to deal with an administration that at least has a go at dealing with Climate Change, COVID and working constructively with the rest of the world instead of pretending " HE alone can solve the problems".
Up to it ?
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Nothing to see here ..... move along.
I doubt Biden will be blasted from the sidelines in the way Trump has. Trumps onslaught was relentless. Everyone knows Biden is an idiot. I doubt it will need to be pointed out endlessly.
Biden will simply make the same mistakes that Obama did. If Jake Sullivan gets an adviser role again we can expect the same idiotic boot licking of Russia, Iran and China that allowed them to walk into their neighbouring territories.
The problem we face now is that all the picks are swamp donkeys. And if an outsider does get in they will be attacked from all quarters.
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The level of "debate" in this thread is simply appalling. Political tribalism at its absolute worst.
The next person who posts a link to a fake news website, or who posts any link to demonstrably false information, is going to cop a permanent ban. Enough is enough.
Please report any such post and I will take action immediately. Time to take out the trash. Don't say you weren't warned.
The next person who posts a link to a fake news website, or who posts any link to demonstrably false information, is going to cop a permanent ban. Enough is enough.
Please report any such post and I will take action immediately. Time to take out the trash. Don't say you weren't warned.
Licking Irans boots while they continued with their nuclear program anyway and pushed into Iraq. Or let Russia waltz into the Ukraine, or let China out of the box. Obama policy handed the world to those that hate the west. It was one of the most spectacular fck ups in history. All the while Obama let their military fall apart.
Trump making their allies pay the minimum to maintain their own military at I think was 2%. Instead of using the US as a security guard.
Climate change, good luck with that.
Obama health care was awful. Admittedly he could only pass what he could with an aggressive senate. But it was terrible till it was tweaked.
Biden does not complete full sentences. We have video proof of him in action.
Trump made a lot of good moves that will push the country forward. And he made some really bad ones that will wash out in time.
Obama let things happen that changed the world for the worse.
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Hopefully Biden continues the pressure on China, to either float their currency, or embrace the importing of overseas manufactured goods, at present it would still appear that manufacturers have to build their product in China to access their market. But that may have changed.
I suppose it is a good point in time to post up this:
www.abc.net.au
I suppose it is a good point in time to post up this:
What has Joe Biden promised to do in his first 100 days as president?
The first 100 days of a new presidency are a benchmark for how a president will run their administration. So what has Joe Biden promised to do when he takes office?
www.abc.net.au
We have had endless articles from anti Trumpers that amounted to 4 years (and realistically it started longer ago) that were pulled apart and shown to be false.
These were not satirical, just flat out fake. It then washes through and is taken as gospel by not a few but a majority of left political leaners.
4 bloody years of posting crap that constantly needed to be pulled up. From what I saw the bee stuff was literally the last couple of months.
Nazi, white supremacist, God, remember Jordan peterson or whatever his name was. And that guy basically said "get your sht together". One long string of attacks on peoples political leanings. There were even book burnings.
One method actually radicalised the tribalism on here. So yes once again "fkn please". Of course its reactionary
Major problems with the thread:
Half of you probably don't understand how US constitution works.
Post articles that are half truths or flat out lies. Posted then reposted.
I get pulled up because I stop tolerating the bs.
If an entire thread amounts to "Trump is Hitler" then its a bit of a sht conversation to start with.
There is zero objectivity.
The more one side hates him the more the other digs in.
The amount of lies published through the threads to do with Trump ended up being a staggering amount. That bs then spills into the other threads.
I'm anti censorship, never have put anyone on ignore. But damn if I don’t think these threads are toxic. And yes I've been a big part of them to. Actually be glad to see the Trump threads locked.
Trumps gone. Move on.
I'm already seeing this crap spill over to Aussie politics on other sites
I think the talk was of resuming trade and political ties. Be interesting to see the strategy moving forward. Be interesting to see scomos relationship with the US.Hopefully Biden continues the pressure on China, to either float their currency, or embrace the importing of overseas manufactured goods, at present it would still appear that manufacturers have to build their product in China to access their market. But that may have changed.
I suppose it is a good point in time to post up this:
What has Joe Biden promised to do in his first 100 days as president?
The first 100 days of a new presidency are a benchmark for how a president will run their administration. So what has Joe Biden promised to do when he takes office?
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Yes with Xi saying he will double China's output, it doesn't leave much wriggle room for the rest of the World, to put food on the table.
Already the Chinese BEV's are coming in a lot cheaper than the European or Japanese, so how they become competitive without tarrifs or currency adjustment I can't see the slide stopping, I don't think butt kissing will work it hasn't in the past.
Time will tell, who knows maybe all this will be for the best and give people something to really worry about, rather than them having to dream stuff up.
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Like I said these articles from anti Trumpers were reactionary to the articles from pro Trumpers. Equally false and taken as gospel and proven wrong.
The real problem around here is not the content of the threads - it's why the threads were started in the first place, and not just in general chat either.
The TDS thread was a perfect example of the antagonism we could've all done without
It had zero value and relevance... it was just a troll thread.
BTW " Obama let things happen that changed the world for the worse. " is just an opinion mate. One I disagree with. Seeing over an economic recovery whilst re-regulating it to avoid another GFC is not an easy task but it was done. Now it has to be done again by the same people that did it last time.
Anyway that's my last post on the matter. I'm just as sick of this toxic crap as you are I'm sure
Big thing is the looming food shortage. Possibly the next crisis. Multiple areas facing stress tests. Oceans fished out and infringements into others waters to fish them out. One area to watchYes with Xi saying he will double China's output, it doesn't leave much wriggle room for the rest of the World, to put food on the table.
Already the Chinese BEV's are coming in a lot cheaper than the European or Japanese, so how they become competitive without tarrifs or currency adjustment I can't see the slide stopping, I don't think butt kissing will work it hasn't in the past.
Time will tell, who knows maybe all this will be for the best and give people something to really worry about, rather than them having to dream stuff up.
Another area of interest is the rise of Ethiopia. They hated Trump over his stance on a dam they built. Ethiopia built a dam that affects Egypt. Caused conflict. Trump said something dumb about blowing up the dam.
So there was hope that they may move back to Biden.
China took advantage In the void. Upgraded infrastructure and the like.
Current tigway problems saw about 600 Chinese moved due to clashes in the country.
Be interesting to see the direction Biden heads on these issues.
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I think of more interest to Australia, is now that Trump has been ejected, will the powers that be move on to Johnson and Morrison?
Then all will be back to normal, get the loonies going on about anything other than what is happening to the first world.
The rich get mega rich, the poor get a shot at being rich and the first world gets a dose of reality.
Just my opinion.
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As with any election win that goes against what I would have liked to have seen (assuming Biden has indeed actually won), rather been lying prostrate in the streets or screaming to the sky, I like to just sit back and see how things transpire and form an opinion over time.
Who knows, what may be portrayed as our worst fear, may turn out to be not so bad after all.
Initially I thought that may have been the case with sleepy Joe, although he has reinstalled the swamp, it's the sort of neocon or neoliberal politics that we've all been used to from the United States for the last few decades.
However I'm starting to get worried. Bunnings latest comments regarding Poland, Hungary, and other sovereign Nations, I find really quite alarming in that they may be signalling direction that his administration may be taking.
It's kind of normal to slag off the outgoing administration, but in attacking countries that are essentially strong United States allies, is highly irregular and concerning in my opinion.
Additionally there seems to be a political axis forming between the possibly incoming administration and big tech.
Watch this space folks I think things are going to get very interesting over the next few years and not in a good way.
Who knows, what may be portrayed as our worst fear, may turn out to be not so bad after all.
Initially I thought that may have been the case with sleepy Joe, although he has reinstalled the swamp, it's the sort of neocon or neoliberal politics that we've all been used to from the United States for the last few decades.
However I'm starting to get worried. Bunnings latest comments regarding Poland, Hungary, and other sovereign Nations, I find really quite alarming in that they may be signalling direction that his administration may be taking.
It's kind of normal to slag off the outgoing administration, but in attacking countries that are essentially strong United States allies, is highly irregular and concerning in my opinion.
Additionally there seems to be a political axis forming between the possibly incoming administration and big tech.
Watch this space folks I think things are going to get very interesting over the next few years and not in a good way.
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@wayneL be a little more optimistic, please. The swamp is nearly gone (chump man).
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@moXJO I hope this link is okay. But does explain how much bull----t Chump man creates
12 Claims by Chump man that are false
12 Claims by Chump man that are false
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So, other than allowing China to dump cheap goods in our country, to shut down more manufacturing, what has it really achieved?
The media has had another win, the multinationals have had another win, more manufacturing gets sent to cheap Labor countries and you guys can high five for helping it along.
Congratulations.lol
Now you can go and join a protest against the exploitation of third world labour.
Priceless.
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I am not aware of many that supported Trumps tariffs as a means of bringing China to heel.
Any way it didn't achieve any ends to Chinas growing dominance of world trade but it did cost ordinary US citizen's the cost of the tariffs for which they paid for not China.
Big new tax anyone?
How Biden tackles China will be interesting, keep in mind changing US administrations rarely if ever change greatly the US foreign policy.
I suspect Biden will keep many tariffs in place if only for the revenue but do expect a bilateral approach attacking China from many more angles using / in concert with other western country's having said that the genie is out of the bottle a real war will happen some day.
As for manufacturing go no further than the policy of letting market efficiency rule which is what happen and here we are Germany continues to manufacture the rest of the lazy western world buy from China.
This is not new BTW for those that know their history will appreciate the observation of China being able to manufacture cheaper than other empires long begore the Mongols.
Mean while the money you spend today, a percentage almost certainty is a result of our trade with China.
Any way it didn't achieve any ends to Chinas growing dominance of world trade but it did cost ordinary US citizen's the cost of the tariffs for which they paid for not China.
Big new tax anyone?
How Biden tackles China will be interesting, keep in mind changing US administrations rarely if ever change greatly the US foreign policy.
I suspect Biden will keep many tariffs in place if only for the revenue but do expect a bilateral approach attacking China from many more angles using / in concert with other western country's having said that the genie is out of the bottle a real war will happen some day.
As for manufacturing go no further than the policy of letting market efficiency rule which is what happen and here we are Germany continues to manufacture the rest of the lazy western world buy from China.
This is not new BTW for those that know their history will appreciate the observation of China being able to manufacture cheaper than other empires long begore the Mongols.
Mean while the money you spend today, a percentage almost certainty is a result of our trade with China.
