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Don't own Qantas shares?I would not however trade membership for advancing Qantas bottom line as Albanese has done.
Very few on either side of politics can claim the moral high ground IMO, it has been a very, very long time since a politician has stood by his or her morals and principles.........It is a sad indictment of the standard of politics today, when we basically say they all bad, but my lot are less bad than your lot.
As opposed to everyone else of course.And recent history shows that unions and labor will do anything to win.
I'm not sure what you are referring to. Do you know of a group of businesses that have people threatened with violence, and are involved in criminal acts?
Any business the size of the CFMEU and conducting criminal acts and threats of violence like the CFMEU is probably a form of Mafia.
It may have escaped your attention that the CFMEU is in the process of being wound up by the Albanese government.
Why didn't the Coalition do this in their nine years in power?
Labor’s claimed ignorance of CFMEU thuggery ‘outlandish’: ex-ABCC boss
The former head of the building industry watchdog has mocked Labor government claims that it was unaware of the CFMEU’s underworld connections, saying he repeatedly alerted parliament to union links with bikies and organised crime over two decades.
The ex-commissioner of the Australian Building and Construction Commission, Nigel Hadgkiss, called for the return of an industry watchdog, with new punitive powers against unions to tackle an underworld takeover of the construction industry.
Former ABCC chief Nigel Hadgkiss said no more “expensive” royal commissions into the CFMEU and the construction industry were necessary. Simon Schluter
Mr Hadgkiss made the comments on Friday at a conference of the HR Nicholls Society – a right-wing industrial relations group – as the Albanese government refuses calls to restore a specialist watchdog on the basis that alleged intimidation and criminal links reported by Nine newspapers’ Building Bad investigation also occurred under the ABCC.
“The current federal government says that the ABCC, which was abolished twice by Labor governments, is not needed because former union boss John Setka flourished when the ABCC was in operation,” Mr Hadgkiss said in his speech.
“Surely that is akin to suggesting that state and federal police forces are not needed because former crime figures Chopper Read and Roger Rogerson flourished for decades when the police forces were in operation.”
Mr Hadgkiss was national director of intelligence at the Australian Crime Commission before he served as director of the Howard government’s building industry taskforce in 2004.
He was appointed deputy commissioner of the ABCC when it started in 2005 and then commissioner on its re-establishment in 2016.
“Claims by the current federal and Victorian labor governments that they were unaware of CFMEU thuggery are simply outlandish,” he said.
“One could simply paraphrase Monty Python and say that the CFMEU is nothing more than just a bunch of very naughty boys.”
In 2004, as incoming head of the building taskforce, he said he reported to parliament that the task force “is aware of information which clearly indicates that the services of underworld figures, including notorious criminals and outlaw motorcycle gangs, are engaged by some industry participants to advance their industrial objectives”.
“Equally alarming to the task force are reports received about threats and intimidation, including assaults on people and property, being used as a means of advancing industrial agendas by parties in the industry.”
Eight years later, while head of the ABCC, he reported to parliament that “I still hold grave concerns of industry figures and their criminal associates who threaten and intimidate workers”.
Mr Hadgkiss conceded the ABCC, which had no jurisdiction to prosecute criminal cases, was “unable to address all prevailing unlawful activity”.
However, he cited anecdotal feedback from builders and workers that when the ABCC operated, “life on building sites was less threatening and intimidating at the hands of CFMEU thugs, bikies and colourful underworld figures”.
Despite the ABCC’s success in the courts, he admitted “we were having little effect on changing the unlawful culture” as the agency kept on prosecuting the same officials.
“This demonstrated that the repercussions for breaches of the law were falling far short of those required to bring about change in the industry,” he said.
Mr Hadgkiss backed stronger laws to disqualify union officials from holding office when they were not “fit and proper”, which the Coalition proposed in 2019 but Labor and the Greens voted down.
The Heydon royal commission of 2014 recommended the laws and Mr Hadgkiss urged “no more expensive royal commissions, no more inquiries headed by retired or serving bureaucrats” due to four other royal commissions’ findings and recommendations.
Mr Hadgkiss resigned as head of the ABCC in controversy in 2017 after he admitted he had recklessly misrepresented union rights of entry to employers for two years by canning his team’s corrections to ABCC legal information.
Workplace Relations Minister Murray Watt said: “I am not surprised Mr Hadgkiss maintains the same, hyper-partisan attitudes he held prior to resigning as head of the ABCC after breaching the Fair Work Act”.
“The failures of the ABCC to bring about change to the construction sector were plain to see and any revisionist retelling of history doesn’t change that fact,” he said.
“In 2016 when the Coalition restored the ABCC, Michaelia Cash promised it would ’restore law and order to Australia’s building and construction industry. The Building Bad series clearly showed it failed to do that.”
Senator Watt has previously confirmed that the Australian Federal Police already have industry taskforces that are investigating corruption claims in the industry.
Mr Hadgkiss said it was essential that police work with a strong regulator to drive organised crime from the industry, but he complained that “at the moment, there is no one poking a stick at these characters ... they’re getting away with it”.
The Master Builders Association has backed an industry watchdog but one that would also have a dedicated police taskforce within it to tackle criminal behaviour.
While the MBA opposes a royal commission, the Civil Contractors Federation backs one as the only way to “find out just how far the rot goes” and compel bikies to give evidence.
Opposition Leader Peter Dutton has promised to deregister the CFMEU and restore the ABCC if elected next year.
The fact is that Labor is shutting down the CFMEU, while the Coalition or their lackey the ABCC never did.That is incorrect.
The fact is that Labor is shutting down the CFMEU, while the Coalition or their lackey the ABCC never did.
So what action did the ABCC take against the CFMEU in the 9 years of Coalition government?told are shocking. Witnesses threatened with violence, business owners and managers finding threatening material at their homes, being followed by strangers. Reports and evidence collected and followed up by state Police, shown as evidence in court and to MPs.
So what action did the ABCC take against the CFMEU in the 9 years of Coalition government?
That just says the Coalition is gutless. Labor has done more in 3 years that the Coalition did in 9.As for the Coalition, can you imagine the mass strike action of the all the unions, with the backing of Labor, if the Coalition government attempted to shut down a powerful union? Besides the legality of it without evidence collected from a regulator like the ABCC.
The best that the Coalition could do was to have a regulator (law enforcer) to police the industry and take action via the courts.
That just says the Coalition is gutless. Labor has done more in 3 years that the Coalition did in 9.
Just being objectiveIf you say so.
It’s a strange way that you show support for the Labor Party, creating a thread that indicates their leadership demise while fighting tooth and nail for them.
Though I suppose that’s how it goes, just like Kevin Rudd’s demise as OM the first time.
That can be said for society in general, these days. The politicians are not pre-programed robots, they are people like us, and most are good at heart, but they are following societies norms.
In the 1970's we didn't lock the back door at night, dad parked his car in the drive and left the key in the ignition, we knew almost all the people on the street, shop owners and managers by name, stood up for our elders, politicians debated and showed respect for each other.
And then the 'greed is good' philosophy came out in the late 80's. Politicians on both sides insulted each other, the public laughed at the bulling by the likes of Keating and co, we allowed our Christian beliefs to be belittled and shamed those that stood by its values, doors opened for mass immigration without care of religious differences or clashes, and assimilation to Australian culture changed to multicultural values that allowed preaching of centuries old hatreds to continue.
We are a damaged and traumatised society.
Multicultural, multiverse, multi everything has created a fear to offend. We allowed blame to be used as self defence for bad behavior, and it has touched every level of society.
We need to find a way back to understanding, consideration, civility and belief in ourselves as a good nation and people.
Yes and then they put in a Conservative government who supposedly back "hard working Australians" only to find that supression of their wages is an essential part of Conservative policy, and "Workchoices" is no choice at all for blue collar workers.Therein lies the reason for the support for conservative politics from people, blue collar workers in particular, who traditionally would never have considered it. Because they're fed up with progressive politics that starts with a seemingly reasonable idea then rapidly escalates it to the point of destruction, then walks away from the mess.
The Unions created the Labor party
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