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The Albanese government

Who is going to be the first to try and knife Airbus next year?

  • Marles

    Votes: 1 8.3%

  • Chalmers

    Votes: 3 25.0%

  • Wong

    Votes: 1 8.3%

  • Plibersek

    Votes: 3 25.0%

  • Shorten

    Votes: 2 16.7%

  • Burney

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Other

    Votes: 2 16.7%
  • Total voters
    12
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Private message from a pharmacist who owns 4 pharmacies in NSW. Talk about nanny states, we've turned into a nanny country.!


"So here is the latest mind blowing arrogance of the albanese government

The wholesalers have NO stock of Methadone Syrup because the ministers office has told Aspen that they have to change the way they supply Methadone to the wholesalers in preparation for the governments changes to opiate substitution payments on 1/7/23

I have no idea what we are meant to tell our patients when our existing stocks run out !!!

True to form there was no consultation with Pharmacy or consideration as to how we and the patients would be affected .
Absolute disaster !!!"
 
PZ99 said:
If this is the criteria for the next election campaign then those other folks aren't coming back any time soon
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Never underestimate the power of the voting public to extract what they might.
Mick
 
SirRumpole said:
Nah. He should get two terms after what the last lot had and did nothing.
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I agree with you, three year terms slip by quickly, the next term will be the scary one I think.
That's when the chickens will come home to roost on this electrical transition, the Government will have to get hard on those who are making it difficult to put in HV transmission and hydro, the impetus will have to crank up to a whole new level.
I don't think the conservatives would be able to do it, if it is going to happen IMO the Govt will have to get heavily involved and Labor are the only ones that don't get the union/media pushback so hopefully they have a plan.
 

As Smurf suggested, they need to establish an "Authority" of experts that will decide the best course of action, and the government comes up with the money somehow or enters into joint ventures with the private sector to get it done.
 
Nah, they will waste their efforts on social (in)justice frivolities, just like in thus term... or maybe that is the plan.

Not that I think the Lubs should be anywhere near govt either. Rock and a hard place comes to mind.
 
SirRumpole said:
As Smurf suggested, they need to establish an "Authority" of experts that will decide the best course of action, and the government comes up with the money somehow or enters into joint ventures with the private sector to get it done.
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Realistically that needed to happen 10 plus years ago not having gas reserves which should have been the fallback position for transition never happened so expect pain before action plus finger pointing
 
IFocus said:
Realistically that needed to happen 10 plus years ago not having gas reserves which should have been the fallback position for transition never happened so expect pain before action plus finger pointing
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The big problem is definitely gas, from memory Dan Andrews wont allow any exploration for gas in Victoria, I don't think NSW has much gas, Queensland sold it all and South Australia (Cooper Basin)is running out @Smurf1976 will have the exact situation no doubt.
Renewables have really only become useful since about 2015, when solar started becoming really reasonably priced, in 2017 S.A was going to install the worlds biggest molten salt solar station which ended up being cancelled as it wasn't as successful as expected.
From what I've read Victoria alone needs to put in 25GW of renewables, which is a hell of a lot and then the storage to cover it has to be added.
From an article I think smurf posted the AEMO says that it will cost $320billion to carry out the transition, that is a lot of equipment, procurement and time that will be required, it really is a lot bigger than most realise even in the political arena, I just don't think people understand the enormity.
 
I rarely ever post on pure political thread.
Just want people here to have a wake up call.
We are on the verge of voting for reinstating apartheid in this country, and adding 600,000 migrants a year..
I do believe everyone is aware of what just happened in France, one more step following many of the disintegration of a country.
This sad implosion is the direct undeniable consequence of uncontrolled migration and an absence of rule of law as could be dimmed racist.
The links are too obvious to be ignored.
Do not let this country follow that french "socialist" path for the sake of your children and grandchildren.
Do you really think that the green switch and low carbon economy really matter for the majority of french citizen now?1 billion euros is the estimated cost of the last week pillage
Priority first for australia: a united inclusive and free country..and that is not ALP.
Any incompetent other clown would be better IMHO..and yes I would prefer competent but better incompetent than dangerous.
Please note that in a few months, I could be jailed for posting that "misinformation" and that is until law becomes retrospective
Wake up
 
Just read a most cutting analysis of the Albanese Government.
It is from The Evil Murdoch press , so will be instantly dismissed by some, but it is nonetheless a pretty accurate summation.
Mick
 
mullokintyre said:
Just read a most cutting analysis of the Albanese Government.
It is from The Evil Murdoch press , so will be instantly dismissed by some, but it is nonetheless a pretty accurate summation.

Mick
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I think we sometimes have unrealistic expectations of what can be done in 18 months.

First all the bodies left buried by the previous government have to be dug up and then having excised the ghosts, a new start must be made.

and those bodies are many..

* debt from covid
* little progress on energy infrastructure
* shortages of teachers, doctors, nurses and other essential workers
* crippling housing prices and rents
* the PWC scandal that reaches throughout the public service
* Robodebt aftermath
* unfunded programs

and the truth is that 3 years is too little to make meaningful progress.

So give them 5 years and see how they go.
 
mullokintyre said:
Just read a most cutting analysis of the Albanese Government.
It is from The Evil Murdoch press , so will be instantly dismissed by some, but it is nonetheless a pretty accurate summation.

Mick
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I think this article nails the root cause, mass immigration, while not having the money to put in infrastructure to support it.
Then we have the Sydney/ Melbourne issue, of the immigration and political self interest pushing property prices so high, that it costs too much to build the infrastructure and housing.
How much would it cost to buy several established houses in Sydney, that are close to services and infrastructure then knock them over to build social housing, it would be a mind boggling cost for minimal extra supply of housing.
The real issue is obvious, the Governments don't want to fix it, having a big gap between rich and poor is obviously the favoured model.
A 'BIG' Australia, doesn't mean a better Australia.

It's a pretty brutal assessment, but probably pretty accurate IMO.

https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2023/07/albo-substitutues-hunger-games-for-commonwealth-games/
 
My daughter has been trying to buy a house in Melbourne for some time.
She has been to five Auctions over the past four months, and the same thing has happened.
She arrives early with a bunch of other hopefuls, has another look at the house, and waits.
Just before the auction starts, one or two car loads of Asians turn up, lets the bidding get under way until there are only two bidders left, then slips a killer bid 50k over the last accepted bid.
I attended the latest one myself on the weekend , to offer moral support.
Did not help one bit.
Mick
 
I can't see how they are going to fix the problem without bursting the bubble, at the moment it is a better gamble than going to the casino, so no doubt groups that network like the Asians, just keep pumping it.
It has now got to the point where really there needs to be a massive crash, if not the poor are going to be in deep $hit, it will end up with the Melbourne/Sydney CBD chock a block full of homeless people.
They had a problem a couple of years back, the way it is going it will be just a third World Ghetto where crime and muggings go through the roof.
Only my opinion, but I can't see any other outcome and the Governments keeps adding more fuel to the fire.
Where we are, if a house is left empty, it is broken into or graffitied.
Then if it isn't fixed quickly, the homeless move in, within a couple of months it needs demolishing.
A lot of Eastern Staters are buying sight unseen off the internet, they are going to be in for a shock IMO. ?
 
Just end negative gearing and CGT deductions and the rent seekers will sell out to owner occupiers and prices will drop.
 
SirRumpole said:
Just end negative gearing and CGT deductions and the rent seekers will sell out to owner occupiers and prices will drop.
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Can't see it happening, it would effect the politicians holdings as well, they aren't in there to drop their wealth.
The other issue is, the problem is really only focused on Sydney/ Melbourne, where it has become a money making game, just pricking those bubbles would be enough.
The amount of gearing would be amazing, using the increased value, to get further loans and the bubble keeps growing.
All they can do is keep cranking interest rates until something breaks, the Government isn't going to do anything, they have enough problems without adding a housing crash.
 
sptrawler said:
Can't see it happening, it would effect the politicians holdings as well, they aren't in there to drop their wealth.
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Sure but Labor under Shorten wanted to do it so they saw NG was distorting the market. I still think it's an issue within the Labor party, we'll see if they grow some cahoonas at some stage.
 
SirRumpole said:
Sure but Labor under Shorten wanted to do it so they saw NG was distorting the market. I still think it's an issue within the Labor party, we'll see if they grow some cahoonas at some stage.
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As usual with Labor, they had a great idea and screwed it up, Shorten was only going to stop negative gearing on established homes, which would have distorted the market.
If as New Zealand has done hit the whole market, it reduces the distortion because everyone is in the same boat, the value across the board falls.
If you allow taxpayer incentives to only those who can afford to build a new home and at the same time demolish the value of established homes, don't you think that would have increased the gap between the rich and the poor.
It is like everything, unintended consequences, why not just say we are only allowing first home buyers to to claim their interest as a tax deduction, on house and land packages upto $500k.
Principal residences above $1m pay CGT on the excess above $1m.
Only up to the value of the rent can be offset against interest, so if someone has an interest bill of $100k a year and the rent is $25k they cop the $75k payment out of their pocket.
Or just put a flat cap, on how much tax offset can be attributed, to a rental property investment, or for how long. At the end of the day an investment should show a positive cash flow within a certain time, otherwise it is just a tax rort. It could be they say, you can negative gear for 5 years and if you hold the property for 10 you get the 50% CGT reduction.
Like Singapore did, put a 60% foreign buyers tax on properties, to stop rich overseas people forcing prices up.
That is all just thinking out loud, there would be hundreds of ways of addressing the issue, if they really wanted to.
There is a reason ex high profile politicians who start from nothing, end up overlooking Sydney Harbour and it ain't the $400k a year salary. ?
 
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