The Albanese government

[frugal.rock]

Jobs and skills summit.
Let's open the doors to "skilled migrants", meanwhile, apparently too many Australians go to University. ?

You don't even have to run that past the pub test...

 

[Knobby22]

Jobs and skills summit.
Let's open the doors to "skilled migrants", meanwhile, apparently too many Australians go to University. ?

You don't even have to run that past the pub test...

It's a conference. Different interests are pushing Different agendas. Let's see what decisions are made before passing judgement.

I actually think it's good that there are discussions going on between different groups who normally never meet.

There have been some good ideas with regard wage bargaining with companies wanting to be able to negotiate together in a sector for instance.

Some powerful groups, usually foreign owned, have been getting a free run with the ordinary Aussie missing out. A reset is due.

 

[PZ99]

The Jobs and skills summit is simply a re-run of the Morrison Govts failed IR omnibus bill from 2 years ago with the biggest difference being an adjustment to the BOOT as opposed to just suspending it altogether.

The Coalition simply can't be trusted with IR because they are paid to hate workers' penalty rates and unfair dismissal.

 

[Knobby22]

The Jobs and skills summit is simply a re-run of the Morrison Govts failed IR omnibus bill from 2 years ago with the biggest difference being an adjustment to the BOOT as opposed to just suspending it altogether.

The Coalition simply can't be trusted with IR because they are paid to hate workers' penalty rates and unfair dismissal.

BOOT?

 

[InsvestoBoy]

This government is like a bad shopping trolley; you use it if it's all you got.

Greens and union's appear to be ruling the roost.

Am actually missing Scomo and Fries&burger a little...

I follow one of the Greens, David Shoebridge, who has done a stellar job in NSW of fighting corruption in the state before moving to Federal politics. He is one of a few greats, like Andrew Wilkie and Rex Patrick that work on transparency.

It's highly amusing to read dumb comments like these versus what Shoebridge has been documenting as their accomplishments trying to convince Labor to do anything they want: nothing so far.

How exactly are they ruling the roost, then?

Don't you feel like a giant buffoon when you open your mouth and Sky News comes out?

 

[PZ99]

BOOT?

Better Off Overall Test.

 

[wayneL]

I follow... the Greens

This actually explains a lot.

Treat with ignore, gents.

 

[InsvestoBoy]

This actually explains a lot.

Treat with ignore, gents.

Yeah, ignore someone because they follow someone you disagree with on social media. Wow you have got it figured out!

 

[wayneL]

Yeah, ignore someone because they follow someone you disagree with on social media. Wow you have got it figured out!

It's not that, Brx. it's how you name call ALL the time. It's what all Greens do, in the absence of a reasonable point.

 

[InsvestoBoy]

It's not that, Brx. it's how you name call ALL the time. It's what all Greens do, in the absence of a reasonable point.

Just to make sure I understand this correctly.

I said I follow a politician who happens to be a Green because of their anti-corruption work, you misquote me to say "I follow the Greens", and claim the reason I keep calling you a rabid idiot makes sense now, because I am a Green?

What a moron. I'm a Stalinist.

 

[wayneL]

I rest my case, Komrade.

 

[sptrawler]

There have been some good ideas with regard wage bargaining with companies wanting to be able to negotiate together in a sector for instance.

That works extremely well, it actually lifts the minimum wage is a sector, so say for example the CFMEU feels that the construction industry is falling behind, they strike on the big projects to get the minimum construction wage or sit allowance increased.
Then even those who work for the smaller contractors get it, the good thing is it gets rid of the marginal smaller companies out of the mix, as they struggle to compete and make a profit.
Same happens in all sectors, the bigger and more politically/financially sensitive projects cop the industrial action and the increases flow down. It works well for the workers.
The EBA model was introduced to make payrises coincide with workplace changes at the specific location and was usually an above award payment.
I guess we will see in three years how it pans out.
I do think the EBA model had run out of steam, mainly due to the fact you can only increase productivity so much, then the gains start being harder and harder to find, so the pay rises become harder and harder to justify.
Bringing in a truck load of skilled migrants will help keep a lid on wages, as they will be gagging for work and trying to get on the Melbourne/Sydney housing ponzi scheme.
So if the industry wide strikes start, there will be plenty of people willing to take the jobs, that the disgruntled workers leave.
Just my thoughts.

 

[frugal.rock]

I follow one of the Greens, David Shoebridge, who has done a stellar job in NSW of fighting corruption in the state before moving to Federal politics. He is one of a few greats, like Andrew Wilkie and Rex Patrick that work on transparency.

It's highly amusing to read dumb comments like these versus what Shoebridge has been documenting as their accomplishments trying to convince Labor to do anything they want: nothing so far.

How exactly are they ruling the roost, then?

Don't you feel like a giant buffoon when you open your mouth and Sky News comes out?

I only expressed broad and general throw away opinions. I can't stand politics in general.
Back in the day of frequenting "the local pub", the social rule was; no discussion of politics, religion and death.

Thanks for the information on Shoebridge, as I had never heard of him, and, glad your amused with my "dumb comments", which weren't then a complete waste of time.

As for ruling the roost, when little old ladies get stuck at say, Bundanoon train station, because a train never arrived due to "industrial action", I get annoyed.
Union actions seems to have increased in NSW recently from what I have noticed, but again, that's a generalisation of observations from various sources, and only NSW.
Further, it's not really a point I wish to debate or argue.

I don't watch Sky News, but sometimes I feel like a giant buffoon anyway, because
I'm human, I make mistakes.
I own my mistakes. I try to learn from them, but often find I'm inadvertently making the same mistake again.

If someone starts using derogatory debasing language in regards to correcting what is perceived to be others "mistakes", the intended lesson isn't learnt, but another unintended lesson is.
Chin up, carry on.

 

[sptrawler]

Well the change of Government and some thumbs up and backslapping over a beer with China, doesn't seem to have changed China's opinion of us.
The Chinese tariffs on Australian goods are set to remain, who do we blame now?
Best we just keep looking for new markets for our produce and new suppliers for our imports IMO.

Wong hoses down hopes on China tariffs​

The Foreign Minister has poured cold water on hopes for an end to the tariffs as a reset in the relationship with Beijing appears to fade.

 

[SirRumpole]

Well the change of Government and some thumbs up and backslapping over a beer with China, doesn't seem to have changed China's opinion of us.
The Chinese tariffs on Australian goods are set to remain, who do we blame now?
Best we just keep looking for new markets for our produce and new suppliers for our imports IMO.

Wong hoses down hopes on China tariffs​

The Foreign Minister has poured cold water on hopes for an end to the tariffs as a reset in the relationship with Beijing appears to fade.

At least we should have a token increase in tariffs on Chinese goods, and give it as a bonus to pensioners and the low paid.

 

[wayneL]

Well the change of Government and some thumbs up and backslapping over a beer with China, doesn't seem to have changed China's opinion of us.
The Chinese tariffs on Australian goods are set to remain, who do we blame now?
Best we just keep looking for new markets for our produce and new suppliers for our imports IMO.

Wong hoses down hopes on China tariffs​

The Foreign Minister has poured cold water on hopes for an end to the tariffs as a reset in the relationship with Beijing appears to fade.

They'll never respect us while the Baizuo are in charge.

 

[The Triangle]

Government asks Optus to pay for new passports for customers caught up in data breach

Foreign Affairs Minister Penny Wong asks Optus to cover the passport application fees for anyone affected by last week's massive data breach.

www.abc.net.au

God help me... I agree with Penny Wong.

Foreign Affairs Minister Penny Wong has asked Optus to cover passport application fees for anyone caught up in last week's massive data breach, which affected millions of Australians....The opposition has previously suggested the government should waive the fees. However, Prime Minister Anthony Albanese said Optus must cover the cost.

Not surprising to see the Liberals wanting the taxpayer to foot the bill rather than their corporate mates Optus who were responsible for this breach (Optus which is a foreign government-controlled company that likes to employ former Australian Liberal leaders).

These labor guys aren't too bad after all. Keeping my tax cuts, franking credits, and sticking it to corporations... Looking good.

 

[basilio]

Just to make sure I understand this correctly.

I said I follow a politician who happens to be a Green because of their anti-corruption work, you misquote me to say "I follow the Greens", and claim the reason I keep calling you a rabid idiot makes sense now, because I am a Green?

What a moron. I'm a Stalinist.

You dared to openly support a Green politician( for very defined reasons) get deliberately and mischievously misquoted and then attempt to have a rational discussion with Wayne ?
Take the ignore option from Wayne and move on Investo.

 

[InsvestoBoy]

You dared to openly support a Green politician( for very defined reasons) get deliberately and mischievously misquoted and then attempt to have a rational discussion with Wayne ?
Take the ignore option from Wayne and move on Investo.

Boomer snowflakes don't realise that following someone on facebook doesn't mean you vote for them or subscribe to their policies.

Shoebridge and his greenie buddies aren't left enough for the likes of me, I am waiting for the Stalinist purge.

 

[wayneL]

You dared to openly support a Green politician( for very defined reasons) get deliberately and mischievously misquoted and then attempt to have a rational discussion with Wayne ?
Take the ignore option from Wayne and move on Investo.

We thought you had died, Bas.

Nice to see you back, so the rest of us look sane