Well done Tony Abbott.
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Much to the disappointment of the ABC, Fairfax press. the Greens and Tanya Plibersek it's now only a matter of time before normal relations with Indonesia are resumed thanks to Abbott's diplomacy. Those wishing for ructions with the Nationals over disruption to the live cattle trade will also have to pin their hopes on other things.
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Hmmm, I would use the word "despite' rather than "thanks to".
Earlier, Labor frontbencher Brendan O'Connor, an immigration minister under Julia Gillard, said the Abbott government "failed to fully appreciate" the gravity of the scandal.
"The fact that it's taken so long for Indonesia to respond (to the Abbott letter) is of some concern," Mr O'Connor told Sky News. "Clearly they are disappointed with the government's response."
His remarks followed similar criticism by Labor's foreign affairs spokeswoman Tanya Plibersek, who on Sunday accused the government of "missteps" in handling of the affair.
Well done Tony Abbott.
Forget the patronising tone, Whiskers. Further, my view of the Labor Party's behaviour throughout this mess is beyond comment. Just woeful.
My view has not changed since we first learned of this situation so I am not 'coming around' at all.
I would expect the Foreign Minister to now visit Indonesia to have a heartfelt discussion and get us back on track. I think it may be a bit tough for the economy this time next year and we really don't need this.
It's perhaps your glasses that need changing.I give up. You can't even admit you were wrong you partisan hack.
Coming back to your original question:
"Did Labor advise they had stripped Gonski funding from those states prior to the election ?"
The answer is yes and you would have known that if you actually had a clue what you were talkign about.
The Better Schools ”” treatment of payments for non-participating States and Territories
measure was published in the Economic Statement with the funding not for
publication (nfp) as negotiations were continuing at the time of publication. The
funding profile for this measure is $118.2 million in 2013-14, $222.9 million in 2014-15,
$352.0 in 2015-16 and $510.2 million in 2016-17.
It is understandable that our Abbott haters are very disappointed at Abbott's adroit handling of the Labor induced Indonesian "crisis". For some bizarre reason they want to see our foreign policies fail, the cattle trade to collapse and the people smugglers to succeed.:screwy:
Plibersek, a Labor greenhorn who is now an "expert" on DFAT matters is typical of these nasties. On the Insiders on Sunday she was critical of Abbott's "misteps" but when pressed on the matter it was obvious she didn't have a clue what she was on about.
Yeah, I've head this and more, including that they are considering withdrawing all trade with Aus including live cattle imports... subject to...
The Indonesian president called for calm on the issue, but said bilateral cooperation would not resume until the Australian Government signs up to behavioural protocols and a code of ethics.
Don't know the full detail of what they are demanding... but I suspect it's going to be a too bitter pill for Abbott to swallow at least very soon.
Also, as if there are not enough defections and dictatorial behaviour in coalition ranks around the states, the loss of trade with Indonesia will p!ss off Nationals, no end... that's before you even consider the economic impacts.
The government is encouraging local and foreign investors to invest in Indonesia’s cattle industry not only in livestock breeding but also in storage and transportation facilities to help cater to the growing demand for meat, a senior official has said.
In addition to breeding technology, Indonesia still needs more investment to provide modern meat storage and transportation facilities in order to cope with distribution bottlenecks in the vast archipelago, Deputy Trade Minister Bayu Krisnamurthi said in Jakarta on Thursday
Breeding cattle and providing meat as well as livestock transportation facilities offer promising business opportunities, because the demand for meat in Indonesia is growing rapidly, he said, adding that although the per capita consumption is still relatively low, it is increasing sharply due to the growing middle-class bracket, he said.
President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono has instructed Foreign Minister Marty Natalegawa to demand an explanation from the Singaporean and South Korean ambassadors over their alleged involvement in wiretapping operations.
JAKARTA (REUTERS) - His popularity is sliding in the polls. Accusations of graft are mounting against political allies. The once-powerful economy is limping.
As Indonesian President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono struggles in the twilight of his second term with elections looming next year, this week's diplomatic brawl with Australia offers an opportunity to stoke nationalist sentiment and rebuild support.
A storm of resentment against Australia has blown up after reports emerged that Canberra spied on top Indonesians including, most sensitive of all, Mr Yudhoyono's wife.
But the indignation underscores an uncomfortable truth for the president: his administration is growing increasingly irrelevant and the nationalist fervour is unlikely to provide enough momentum to revive his lame-duck presidency.
"You can see the people who are out there supporting us in the streets ... I think our ratings in opinion polls will definitely go up because everyone is uniting behind the president and behind the Democratic Party because our response has been very firm."
No wonder anyone with a remotely non-partisan, moderate view just gives up and leaves this forum. You regard anyone who doesn't share your uncritical conviction that Mr Abbott can do no wrong as an "Abbott Hater".Of course you would. You obviously share the Plibersek attitude that Abbott can do nothing right.
No wonder anyone with a remotely non-partisan, moderate view just gives up and leaves this forum.You regard anyone who doesn't share your uncritical conviction that Mr Abbott can do no wrong as an "Abbott Hater".
Considering this, along with the relentless repetition of spurious advice to everyone from Whiskers who is apparently permitted to harass others with impunity, there's little reason to attempt to contribute.
I clearly defined the Abbott haters as those who "for some bizarre reason they want to see our foreign policies fail, the cattle trade to collapse and the people smugglers to succeed."
If you or any others with a non-partisan moderate view consider that this somehow includes you then I humbly apologise. It wasn't intended.
Incidently, I don't have an "uncritical conviction that Mr Abbott can do no wrong". To the contrary, but on the Indo situation I can't fault him.
+1 Calliope. The left wing socialist don't like any Abbott success...they want him to FAIL...FAIL....FAIL.
What a grubby lot they are.
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You are still going to maintain your bull**** position that the Coalition didn't know about the $1.2 billion prior to the election?
You were prolific on ASF, preaching for the failure of both the Rudd and Gillard governments.
What does that make you then, Noco?
I clearly defined the Abbott haters as those who "for some bizarre reason they want to see our foreign policies fail, the cattle trade to collapse and the people smugglers to succeed."
If you or any others with a non-partisan moderate view consider that this somehow includes you then I humbly apologise. It wasn't intended.
Incidently, I don't have an "uncritical conviction that Mr Abbott can do no wrong". To the contrary, but on the Indo situation I can't fault him.
No one I know wants Australia hurt so Abbott can fail certainly no one here on ASF.
Either Dr was / is drunk or messing with your head the funding issue has been well enough covered to show Coalition claims as straight out lying.
I clearly defined the Abbott haters as those who "for some bizarre reason they want to see our foreign policies fail, the cattle trade to collapse and the people smugglers to succeed."
If you or any others with a non-partisan moderate view consider that this somehow includes you then I humbly apologise. It wasn't intended.
Incidently, I don't have an "uncritical conviction that Mr Abbott can do no wrong". To the contrary, but on the Indo situation I can't fault him.
+1 Calliope. The left wing socialist don't like any Abbott success...they want him to FAIL...FAIL....FAIL.
What a grubby lot they are.
Although he had indicated that his Australian counterpart had not fully responded to his demand for a full answer concerning wiretapping allegations, as conveyed in his letter to the Australian leader last week, overall President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono felt encouraged by Tony Abbott’s promise that such a practice would not happen in the future.
Surprisingly, apart from talking about Australia, Yudhoyono also said he had ordered Foreign Minister Marty Natalegawa to summon the ambassadors of Singapore and South Korea over media reports that their governments had also engaged in wiretapping here.
The President also implied that Abbott did not apologize for the bugging of telephone conversations of several top Indonesian officials, including spying on the President himself and First Lady Ani Yudhoyono. Many Indonesians have insisted that Australia apologize for the blatant violation of Indonesia’s trust.
The President also pointed out that he would send a special envoy to settle all problems caused by the espionage conducted by the Australian intelligence agency, and that further discussions between the two countries were still important to restore the relations between the two members of the G20.
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