Labor gave them the opportunity with their budgetary gymnastics and I'm glad they took it. The Gonski deals negotiated with individual states were almost as badly compromised relative to each other as where Labor stood on border protection.Back Flip with triple pike, The Liberals Education Lie.
Did Labor advise they had stripped Gonski funding from those states prior to the election ?Did they or did they not know prior to the election that WA, NT and Qld hadn't signed up?
Did Labor advise they had stripped Gonski funding from those states prior to the election ?
That's the real question.
Link ?Again you are making plain you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about as if you'd followed this issue at all you'd know the answer to your question is "yes". The fact that they had removed the $1.2 billion due to WA not signing up was in their pre election budget statement which was released publicly.
Link ?
I don't think SBY had any reason to feel embarrassed. It is Australia who obviously feels embarrassed about Snowden's revelations, courtesy the ABC and The Guardian.Do you think SBY was embarrassed. I think he was. I think Abbott said something along the lines of he regretted the embarrassment cause. Maybe he could have said he regretted the distress it caused.
Yes, you're right. Whatever Mr Abbott might have done there will be room for criticism. It needs to have been what least exacerbates the situation imo.It is not a perfect policy as their are downsides and risks. However I don't see a perfect risk free policy.
SBY has backed us then we get busted (publicly) tapping his and his wife's phone.
If he is our friend then Abbott needed to give him a face saving message immediately proving he is a friend this is not just for SBY but for future Indonesian leaders believing Australian politicians wont hang them out to dry.
But as you say we don't know what else is going to pop up from Snowden.
The issue is Abbotts dismissive and lack of urgency to respond.
I agree with IF on this. Initially, SBY made it clear he didn't regard the issue as one which would cause a total breakdown in the relationship as long as Mr Abbott gave him some sort of neutralising response. This probably needed to be only something as simple as "As we were not in government at the time, we'll need to review what the intelligence practices were at that time".Camel Dung. The Abbott response has been correct. The only response that has been inappropriate is the leftists zeal to hang it off Abbott.
That's just media speculation on the pre-election economic and fiscal outlook.Here you go:
Indonesia's public banging on about this issue I'd suggest is for domestic political consumption. The issue was never going to be settled in the public domain. There, both leaders catered for their domestic audiences and that aspect I suspect isn't over yet.Now, we await SBY's response to Mr Abbott's letter. Hopefully the tone of the letter will have mollified some of the hurt feelings which, yes, are over the top, but unless Australia is happy to see thousands per week of boat people arriving here, we just have to accept in this instance imo.
That's just media speculation on the pre-election economic and fiscal outlook.
What did it actually show ?
Not for publication.
Not for publication.
We can now see why.
And it goes to SBY's standing internationally. A friend in Canada tells me the squabble has been quite widely covered there.Indonesia's public banging on about this issue I'd suggest is for domestic political consumption.
Which makes Mr Abbott's failure to quickly and personally contact SBY less than helpful.The issue was never going to be settled in the public domain.
You need to get more sleep Whiskers. The tip on Andrew Bolt's blog was spot on.
The latest Essential Report (26/11/2013) has the Coalition at 53% 2PP.
http://essentialvision.com.au/category/essentialreport
Which makes Mr Abbott's failure to quickly and personally contact SBY less than helpful.
Forget the patronising tone, Whiskers. Further, my view of the Labor Party's behaviour throughout this mess is beyond comment. Just woeful.Good to see you coming around, Julia.
Indonesian president Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono has spoken about the Australian spying scandal three days after recieving a letter from Australian Prime Minister Tony Abbott.
Speaking at a meeting convened to discuss the subject, Mr Yudhoyono said in the letter Mr Abbott had committed not to take any action in the future to damage relations between the two countries.
The Indonesian president called for calm on the issue, but said bilateral cooperation would not resume until the Australian Government signs up to behavioural protocols and a code of ethics.
Former Army chief Peter Leahy hand-delivered the letter on Saturday, a move the Government labelled a sign of respect, and a presidential spokesman earlier today said the letter was "in accordance to our expectations".
The president's comments are likely to be welcomed by the Abbott Government, which has come under increasing criticism over its handling of the situation.
The diplomatic rift erupted following revelations that in 2009 Australian spies tapped Mr Yudhoyono's phone and the phones of those in his inner circle, including his wife's.
An angry Mr Yudhoyono last week said all military and intelligence cooperation with Australia was on hold until he received a proper explanation.
The comments are the first positive indications for a way forward on the issue, which has also begun to impact on Australian commercial interests in the country.
Just appearing on the ABC website is the first sign of a possible decrease in the hostility:
Just appearing on the ABC website is the first sign of a possible decrease in the hostility:
'Good to see the above. I would expect the Foreign Minister to now visit Indonesia to have a heartfelt discussion and get us back on track. I think it may be a bit tough for the economy this time next year and we really don't need this.
- See more at: http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...y-fn59nm2j-1226769119408#sthash.cviAXWdj.dpufHowever, Mr Gita made clear Indonesia was not considering any reimposition of quotas on Australian live cattle, citing "the need to maintain stability of prices". Indonesia has issued permits for an additional 120,000 head of Australian cattle to be imported during the current quarter, as the government battles to drive down market prices for beef from near-record levels.
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