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Note the divergence between the ASX versus the US markets. Things aren't going too well for Australia at the moment....
That would be your biggest understatement yet.IMO
Meanwhile everyone is poking their tonques out at Abbott and calling him names, while the house burns down.lol,lol,lol
You're ignoring what I wrote or you're irrational once the word Labor is mentioned. I mentioned a downward trend which is impacting both sides in the last few years. Things are softer and softening more than the govt is prepared to acknowledge.
Where is the $122 billion deficit figure from? I'm having trouble finding it. Are you having issues like Joyce with deficit and debt distinctions?
As for ABC - Abbott wasted PR in having ministers try to spin the cuts over the last half week or more. It reduces public trust that coalition members are trying to twist and turn rhetoric about ABC cuts then the PM eventually decides to fess up. Seems their default position is to pull the wool over the eyes of the public instead of being a man (it is a dig at Cormann's comment).
I don't understand why you're spending time trying to defend the Coalition for mistakes and PR spin. All the excuse finding and spin is wasting time and effort. Instead they could talk about the actual issues and then they can better sell cuts and changes. Abbott and co. need to focus on the job and develop policy instead of being stuck in the politics hence why Abbott looks like he is stuck in opposition mode.
We have PR losing trust and has issues with voter satisfacton then taking actions that do not help himself, his part or nation. What a waste of effort.
Agree and to boofhead's preceding post.+1
They need to move on from the rhetoric and get on with doing the job.
They just need to man up and say it needs doing, get over it. They're not winning any hearts dribbling on and trying to work with a hostile senate.
Lay out the tax and spending plan, sell it to the general public, then the Senate have no option.
The way it is going, is death by indecision.
Agree and to boofhead's preceding post.
Tony Abbott's lack of gumption was really brought home to me when, flicking through the radio dial a few days ago, I heard the awful Alan Jones berating him over something. Abbott ummed and ahed, became stutteringly defensive and essentially cowered in the face of the attack.
That is absolutely the last thing he should be doing. The Prime Minister being talked down to and mocked by a shock jock? Why does he allow this? Way past time to start demonstrating some strength of character, telling the electorate clearly why we need to make cuts etc.
Agree and to boofhead's preceding post.
Tony Abbott's lack of gumption was really brought home to me when, flicking through the radio dial a few days ago, I heard the awful Alan Jones berating him over something. Abbott ummed and ahed, became stutteringly defensive and essentially cowered in the face of the attack.
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Aspergers?
There is a little bit of a nasty streak in you, isn't there.
It's not like Abbott is managing very well either, but the truth is he probably receives far more than $800k as a package... just his charity work alone must bring in a modest income for the groceries and bills
Note the divergence between the ASX versus the US markets. Things aren't going too well for Australia at the moment....
Perhaps this link might help you to understand about the $123 billion deficit...I was close with $122 billion.
http://www.financeminister.gov.au/media/2014/0925-final-budget-outcome.html
2013-14 Final Budget Outcome
The Final Budget Outcome (FBO) for the 2013-14 financial year is a budget report card on the previous Government’s irresponsible fiscal and economic management.
Despite Labor initially forecasting a surplus of $5.4 billion for the 2013-14 financial year, and keeping this forecast surplus for eight successive budget updates, today’s FBO confirms a $48.5 billion deficit.
This is more than a $30 billion deterioration in the year since former Treasurer Wayne Swan delivered his final Budget.
This deterioration consisted of a write-down in total revenue of more than $18 billion, and policy decisions of just over $11 billion.
This FBO confirms Labor delivered six successive deficits totalling $240 billion with many more to come. Including 2013-14, Labor left the Government with future deficits of $123 billion over the forward estimates to 30 June 2017.
If no policy action was taken to repair the budget position the Government inherited, gross debt would have spiralled to $667 billion over the medium term and continued to grow. It is the equivalent of $25,000 for every Australian. This is Labor’s legacy of debt for all Australians.
In the 2013-14 Budget, Labor finally gave up on their farce of ‘delivering a budget surplus in 2012-13’. At that time they wrote down receipts by $17 billion for the 2013-14 financial year alone, and more than $60 billion over the forward estimates.
On the eve of the 2013 Federal Election, then Treasurer Chris Bowen had to go even further in his 2013 Economic Statement, by writing down receipts a further $7.8 billion for 2013-14 and over $33 billion across the forward estimates.
Making it worse, we have to see Peter Costello brushing them aside, in the Senate and on BoltAgree and to boofhead's preceding post.
Tony Abbott's lack of gumption was really brought home to me when, flicking through the radio dial a few days ago, I heard the awful Alan Jones berating him over something. Abbott ummed and ahed, became stutteringly defensive and essentially cowered in the face of the attack.
That is absolutely the last thing he should be doing. The Prime Minister being talked down to and mocked by a shock jock? Why does he allow this? Way past time to start demonstrating some strength of character, telling the electorate clearly why we need to make cuts etc.
Yes. I thought his comment on another thread was gratuitous and nasty.
. And is that that Turnbull, on the grass, licking his bollocks, Pyne chasing his tail 'almost got it, almost got it'
Have you noticed that Newscorp are starting to turn against the Prime Minister?
He has been effectively given a deadline in August next year to turn around the polls otherwise Newscorp (Rupert?) will actively work to change the leader.
His papers are also advocating against the Treasurer (as posted by Noco). I predict Joe will lose treasury after Christmas in the silly season.
Also today in the Age it was revealed by a retired Treasury whistleblower that the taxation department has effectively quartered the staff looking at the behaviour of large companies and it is a free for all now for avoiding taxes with all the large accounting consulting companies arranging tax havens.
Do you feel that maybe the big end of town is calling the shots in the Abbott government? I do, and I think that Abbott is being forced to do things he doesn't agree with, hence Sir Rumpole's comment above.
I think you are showing your indefatigable loyalty to a party, est-ce pas?
Au contraire, my comment was made in regard to your inference that Abbott took kickbacks from charities.
https://independentaustralia.net/po...costly-indigenous-community-volunteering,5628
I love it when pollies get a serve for distortion of truth (lying)
Is that all! Well it's well documented he has taken payment for "charity work" and excuses it as him being the drawcard for sponsorship at such events. see Tim Mathieson and his (Abbott's) indigenous volunteer work articles
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-lover-living-caravan-bush.html#ixzz3K7xLcIeNFriends have told Australia's Woman's Day magazine that they have known for months that the couple's relationship was in trouble - and it didn't help matters when it was recently revealed that Miss Gillard has personally repaid $A4243 (£2,500) to the Department of Finance because Mr Mathieson was said to have misused her taxpayer-funded car when she was Prime Minister
I love it when pollies get a serve for distortion of truth (lying)
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