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No Ordinary Duck
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Firstly IM A DUCK!
Secondly Im not trading TGA and WOULDNT UNLESS it traded over $1.50.
A fall below the Control bar zone on a gap or volume will be very bad news for TGA.
A break above the zone with a gap or strong volume would be seen as great news.
This is a time to wait for TGA in a technical opinion.
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It's has been said that "if you were to put 1 billion monkeys in front of a computer keyboard they'd eventually type out the works of Shakespeare. But with the advent of the internet, we now know that that is not true".
Similar reasoning applies to traders staring at charts.
This thread is not going the way of the fundy/tech argument so lets get back on topic.
Thanks for your chart Daffy.
CanOz
What is the possible range of EPS to be released this week? Management said the result would be a substantial increase on previous.
At the risk of stating the obvious, should TGA merely come in bang on on analyst's forecasts, it will constitute one of the few bright spots relative to the dark cloud hanging over the rest of the market. In that context, it will be interesting to see what affect, if any, that has on the mood of Mr Market.
No surprises, really. Came in bang on on analysts' forecasts. But I found the following interesting (and promising):
"Thorn has been investigating the potential for a Rent Try Buy! ® type product in the used car market and is now sufficiently confident in the concept that it has approved the commencement of a trial in the second half of FY13".
I had earlier flagged the prospect of TGA initiating further rental lines, notably cars. MMS leases cars as well and it has turned out very well (although on FBT terms, so the market is slightly different).
The remarks on TGA's outlook may dampen any buoyancy that we had hoped that the share price might receive following today's announcement:
"Thorn's rate of growth over the past years has been substantial but market factors may slow this rate in FY13. Among these factors are the subdued economy, poor retail conditions and changing consumer preferences with products such as furniture taking over as the growth drivers from the likes of flat panel TVs and personal computers. There will also be costs associated with continued investment in additional Radio Rentals outlets.
Additionally the Rent Drive Buy! ® trial will have a short term cost impact, however the board feels it is an important strategic opportunity that should not be delayed".
This outlook accords with Macquarie Bank's recent analysis.
The Macquarie report shows no growth for the next FY - IMO it's not quite the same msg as TGA management are trying to get across.
If one simply doubled the EPS for H1, one would get an EPS for the year of 19.5c. If you increased this by 2.5% to equate to an annual growth of 5%, you will get 20c. A glance at the Westpac estimates gives the following:
I performed a crude calculation and arrived at 20.3c. My logic to calculate for H2 was to start with the H1 net profit of $14.307M, and adjust it for:
a) the on-off NCML acquisition-related impairment expense of $630K;
b) the higher interest paid in H1 that would have been reduced by reducing debt by $25 million;
c) taking out the contribution to EBIT by the subsequently-lost ATO business;
d) uplifting the residual by 5% to account for growth (annual rate 10%); and then
e) adjusting for 30% tax.
Being a tad lazy, I guesstimated the interest differential by simply deducting what was paid in H1 relative to the previous H1 – that is $1135K less $278K = $857K. The end result is as follows: $14.307M plus (($.630M + $.857M - $800) x 1.05 x .7 = $.46309M), which is $14.770M. Divide the two half years' net profit by 146606000 shares and one gets ($14.307M + $14.770M)/146606000 = 20.324 cents.
This is not a company experiencing the final flare-up just before its last match is snuffed out for the want of fuel
No, definitely not - and no-one's saying that!
What I want to determine is whether TGA warrants any more of my hard-earned, and if so, whether it ranks ahead of any other candidates for investment. Still an open question at this stage, for me.
Well, the EPS came in 1 cent below what I expected. This is substantially because an additional $1,130K was written off NCML-customer relationships (goodwill) in H2. I had thought this might happen, and in an earlier post I wrote: "If there is a negative to detract from the rosy picture, it will spring from the NCML acquisition, in my opinion - e.g., impairment of goodwill." An analyst later took this up with John Hughes, and his response led me to think that the $630K impairment in H1 sufficed.
Total impairment was $1,760K, so I presume a further $1,130K was impaired in H2. Things like provisions and amortisations are not an exact science, and management of companies will often tweak them to suit their purpose. If one uses EPS numbers to guesstimate future years EPS metrics, these one-off expenses are usually ignored, and hence the "normalised" EPS would be about 8 cents higher, or 20.1c.
I have not gone through the interim annual report carefully, but it looks positive from the long-term perspective. This is not a company experiencing the final flare-up just before its last match is snuffed out for the want of fuel.
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