maybe in your case a taser would be a good idea
presumably your preference would be a bullet in the leg or something
??Originally Posted by Garpal Gumnut ...
A bit of Tasering and a rough up never did any harm.
I think you are focusing on the wrong thing.the guy was a twat. why do people always arc up at the cops? is it retardation? instead of walking off quietly and with dignity, he has to showboat and jump up and down and resist and make some stupid pointless political statement and embarass himself.
like others on this thread i've seen other videos of this nature and just about every single time the person being tasered is acting like a dick.
from some random article -
it took a shock but i think he finally learnt an important life lesson - you are not a beautiful and unique snowflake. "freedom of speech" does not mean "freedom to act like an idiot".
Looks like a situation where a small amount of simple diplomacy could easily have cooled the situation. And if that didn't work, one cop, on one arm, briskly escorting him out of the place would have sufficed.
Is speaking too long at a microphone a criminal offence in America? Its not like this guy was shouting obscenities or making threats.
Ummm... so why are Wilson Tuckey and Bill Heffernan still alive?it took a shock but i think he finally learnt an important life lesson - you are not a beautiful and unique snowflake. "freedom of speech" does not mean "freedom to act like an idiot".
Garpal, when you were a demonstrator , were you ugly? or good looking in those days .... whatever - lot of water appears to have flowed under the bridge since .My point is that I find ugly demonstrators as nauseating as ugly police.
pffftt lol - ripperUmmm... so why are Wilson Tuckey and Bill Heffernan still alive?
the guy was a twat. why do people always arc up at the cops? is it retardation? instead of walking off quietly and with dignity, he has to showboat and jump up and down and resist and make some stupid pointless political statement and embarass himself.
like others on this thread i've seen other videos of this nature and just about every single time the person being tasered is acting like a dick.
from some random article -
it took a shock but i think he finally learnt an important life lesson - you are not a beautiful and unique snowflake. "freedom of speech" does not mean "freedom to act like an idiot".
You know what the saddest thing is? John Kerry probably had the power to come down there and tell everyone to take a breather, but he didn't, because he's a typical, manipulative, scummy US politician.
I don't get what people mean when they say "get on with it"? Garpal if I tasered your wife and locked her up in Guantanamo for oh, say a decade, and tell you to "get on with it" would it be really that easy?
Are you simply just gonna watch something that cruel, something which can be done WAY more peacefully, and just say "get on with it"? Who the hell "gets on with it" after getting electricuted, or beaten up?
Investors who lost their fortunes in Northern Rock should really just "get on with it", stuff trying to make a more secure British banking system JUST GET ON WITH IT LOL.
Zimbabweian women need to stop whinging about genital mutilation and JUST GET ON WITH IT!!!
US people should just accept their police not trying to do things peacefully, get tasered, and JUST GET ON WITH IT, they stuffed up the middle east oh well JUST GET ON WITH IT hey! The US devoured the worlds banking system through its progrilific ways, JUST GET ON WITH IT!
the guy was a twat. why do people always arc up at the cops? is it retardation? instead of walking off quietly and with dignity, he has to showboat and jump up and down and resist and make some stupid pointless political statement and embarass himself.
like others on this thread i've seen other videos of this nature and just about every single time the person being tasered is acting like a dick.
from some random article -
it took a shock but i think he finally learnt an important life lesson - you are not a beautiful and unique snowflake. "freedom of speech" does not mean "freedom to act like an idiot".
??
My point is that the bludy things are potentially lethal.
police response ? ....... TASER!!Kerry is heard to say "hey officers... can we.....
hey folks ....
hey folks...
I think if everybody just ....
calms down.."
The 1 i used to have you would need to hold it to a persons neck for 30seconds before they ended up in a coma (not dead). 30 seconds is a long time in a scuffle, (mine was a high voltage 1 also). Its like saying i dont support police having batons/ guns etc.. yes they might have over reacted but at the end of the day at least he knows in the future whos boss. These days police are treated like scum and are walked all over.
Spot on. I agree Wayne that the cops may have jumped the gun a little but this guy is being a complete asshole and whinging like a baby. Personally I would have liked to have given him more than a tazering.
AgeoThe 1 i used to have you would need to hold it to a persons neck for 30seconds before they ended up in a coma (not dead). 30 seconds is a long time in a scuffle, (mine was a high voltage 1 also). Its like saying i dont support police having batons/ guns etc.. yes they might have over reacted but at the end of the day at least he knows in the future whos boss. These days police are treated like scum and are walked all over.
BUT THAT's not how the cops use it !!!NB "If you have someone who has a knife, who is threatening other people but isn't quite at the level where you'd use lethal force, you'd pre-empt with the TASER, get them safely under control before it escalates."
When CBS News Correspondent Wyatt Andews first started looking into police use of the TASER stun gun a year ago, the weapon had been connected to more than 40 deaths. The company that makes the weapon insisted that none of the deaths was the TASER's fault.
So, says Andrews, "We began asking, simply, how could that be? What was the real safety record of this weapon?"
"Today, in what clearly is a law-enforcement revolution, tens of thousands of police officers see the TASER as a godsend.
"The gun shoots two barbed fish hooks into the body, bringing 50 thousand volts. Most of the time, the suspect goes down--and the cop's revolver stays put."
"You can use it before you would have to use the revolver," asserts Rick Smith, CEO of TASER International. "If you have someone who has a knife, who is threatening other people but isn't quite at the level where you'd use lethal force, you'd pre-empt with the TASER, get them safely under control before it escalates."
But, Andrews points out, using the TASER to bring down a threatening suspect isn't always the way the gun is used.
In Glendale, Colo., Glen Leyba was on his apartment floor, thrashing violently. A police officer, hoping to control him, stunned him three times, before he died. While the coroner blamed a drug overdose, the family blames multiple, unnecessary electric shocks, Andrews reports.
Shelly Leyba, Glen's sister, says, "Glen was in a medical emergency, down on the ground, no threat."
In Indiana, inmate James Borden was stunned six times by an officer, then died on the jailhouse floor. Borden was also high on drugs, and again his family blames overuse of the TASER. "They juiced him to death," charges Steve Borden, James' brother.
On Long Island, David Glowczenski was suffering a mental breakdown, so his family called police for help.
His sister, Jean Griffin, says, "We called them for safety because he was disoriented. …And an hour later he was dead."
Glowzenski died after a confrontation in which an officer stunned him nine times with a TASER, and he wasn't on drugs or alcohol, Andrews notes. "He committed no crime; he didn't do anything wrong," Griffin says.
TASER Intenational is adamant the weapon simply lacks the power to kill or injure, Andrews says. [ BULLSH1T]! CEO Smith said TASER tested dogs and pigs and determined the TASER's shock can not injure the heart: "If we knew there was a problem, we would certainly want to disclose that. We've researched it and have not found it."
Technically, stresses Andrews, when the company says the TASER has never caused a death, it is right. However, since 2000, five different medical examiners have listed the stun gun or the TASER specifically as a factor in someone's death.
Dr. Roland Kohr, Indiana regional medical examiner, called a death in his state "the straw that broke the camel's back."
In the Indiana case of James Borden, Dr. Roland Kohr says TASER is overlooking the stress that muliple shots from the weapon can cause, especially to someone high on drugs. Kohr ruled TASER a factor in Borden's death.
"The application of the TASER was the trigger factor or the stressful event that caused the elevation of blood pressure, the elevation of heart rate which stressed an already damaged heart to the point that it went into cartiac arrest," Kohn says.
Smith says he does not accept that finding. "I rely on the advice of medical experts who have told me that there is absolutely no basis to conclude the TASER contributed to this death."
But Borden's mother, Dorothy, says flatly, "I believe it killed my son."
Today, by the count of CBS News, 70 people have died after being TASERed, including 10 in August alone, Andrews observes. And while the company asserts every one of these victims died of something else, many critics believe the company has not done enough research to know that with certainty, Andrews adds.
Ageo
This is an important one in my books.
Aus seriously doesn't need these things.
As I posted back there ... (incidentally an article posted today !!
Obviously this is getting publicity in the USA as well . (thanks God)
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/10/12/earlyshow/main648859.shtml
Many of the quoted cases were overweight, unfit, on substances or being subdued or assaulting others forcibly. Thus the evidence for implicating tasers is weak, very weak.
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