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btw - on one of those youtubes on the U of F incident, - and as one of those US news reporters alludes to - he is almost cuffed when they taser him.
btw - on one of those youtubes on the U of F incident, - and as one of those US news reporters alludes to - he is almost cuffed when they taser him.James Borden was arrested in November 2003 and died shortly after the administration of the last of six electro-shocks, delivered while his hands were cuffed behind his back. The medical examiner released a statement listing cause of death as a heart attack, drug intoxication and electrical shock.
One of the officers involved reportedly said: etc
kennas,Anyone considered this guy set it up?
Well I've explained my reasons as to why I believe the initial restraint was without cause, you haven't, you've just stated that you disagree. Thus far after several pages I still can't see any explanation as to why the initial restraint occurred - what law was broken that required him to be arrested in the first place?
they forget to mention it was with 50K volts - 200 times more voltage than house single phase voltage
If you studied electricity you would know it is not volts that kill, it is amps. Static electricity is 100,000s of volts, electric fences about 50000, etc.
As a matter of fact, yes, and it extends as far as my medical regulatory background on design and review of self powered electronic circuits and testing, and implantable heart pacemakers and implantable defibs, as well as self powered devices such as cochlear implants.It is not volts that kill?
you don't get one without the other btwsheesh now you're an expert on electricity are you dmrb lol
I'll be back in the US in a few weeks, picking up a car at JFK then driving to New Jersey for meetings, then on to Raleigh NC. I'll be there more than 2 weeks again, I imagine that it wil be unchanged from 10 days ago when I was in PA, or 4 weeks ago when I was in SC. Free and safe! Take care and over and out!!
gee you're the expert we've been looking for ...As a matter of fact, yes, and it extends as far as my medical regulatory background on design and review of self powered electronic circuits and testing, and implantable heart pacemakers and implantable defibs, as well as self powered devices such as cochlear implants.
Its Joules/sec that's important, not just voltage or amperage. Look it up on google!!!
I have family who live there. (just a bit of trivia)I somehow don't think that area has a high taser usage. Unless it is females using them to get away from the Duke LaCrosse team. Lol!
Lovely part of the world in that NC region. Would really love to visit there sometime soon, especially Chapel Hill.
In Chapel Hill? Or somewhere else in NC? Quite the young person's hub.I have family who live there. (just a bit of trivia)
All around the Chapel Hill - Raleigh - Durham area/suburbs. I'll write about it later when I have some time.In Chapel Hill? Or somewhere else in NC? Quite the young person's hub.
If you studied electricity you would know it is not volts that kill, it is amps. Static electricity is 100,000s of volts, electric fences about 50000, etc.
down under we call tasers “lightning bolts”Its Joules/sec that's important, not just voltage or amperage. Look it up on google!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkHi...round-check-comes-in-metallic-pink-227117.php
i like x26 taser it is better than c2 taser i draw it so quicky if someone tired swing a stick or a knife or beer bottle i carry it on my bolt if u drop ur c2 in pocket or bag .u cant find so quicky
Brent376 (1 month ago)
Yes my wife and I just bought one at Academy Sporting goods store. Had to buy it in the gun department and do a background check in order to activate the C2. I really like this model because it does not look like a gun. I can carry it in a parking lot without attracting attention to my self. I was very impressed with Taser International's training DVD and manuel. I carry my c2 everywhere. So small I just drop it in my pocket.
dogmusher (2 months ago)
i alredy have 2 X26 TASER here one in my truck other one on my belt i carry my taser on me all time.
sabrecs10 (7 months ago)
Pepper spray is an effective tool. It is hard to chase someone if you cant see or breathe. I have a S&W .38 Spech and my pepper spray for self defense. Pepper Spray has been proven to be 80-90% effective. While it does not stop everyone it is better than nothing and it can keep your gun from being taken away from you. Get one with OC with at least 1% Capsaicin content like Sabre Red. Dont get one with CS or CN Tear Gas.
unsobill (7 months ago)
pepper spray just stimulates attacker - get a Glock with pepper instead.
cjnewbs (8 months ago)
I wish stun gun/tasers were legal in the UK. Damn Firearms Act.
sabrecs10 (8 months ago)
afstings
I noticed on the Taser website that it has a back up drive stun capability so I ordered one for my wife and one for myself. I like this product because it is instantly effective. No waiting for the pepper spray to work.
afstings (8 months ago)
Actually, even if you miss with the Taser (x26 is the model I carry), you can still disengage the cartrige and use it as a stun gun. Much more effective than pepper spray, OC, tear gas, etc. Ive sprayed subjects that were on drugs with OC with no effect. Hit the same subject with the x26, and they're down.
sabrecs10 (8 months ago)
I think I will stick with my pepper spray. The Taser gives you only one shot and in this video one of the darts missed the outline of the target. I think it is ok for Law Enforcement who have back up officers. A civilan in a sudden blitz attack would have a hard time using this product
Tuesday, November 30, 2004
Police are too quick to grab for Taser's power, say critics
Teens and pregnant women have felt jolt in King County
By PHUONG CAT LE AND HECTOR CASTRO
SEATTLE POST-INTELLIGENCER REPORTERS
When deputies pulled her over, Valinda Otis told them she was pregnant and needed to use the bathroom. When they wouldn't let her go to a nearby restroom, she walked toward it, anyway, she said, and was quickly handcuffed and placed in a patrol car. She screamed and kicked the car door.
That's when a deputy with the King County Sheriff's Office pulled out a Taser, pressed it against her thigh and jolted her with 50,000 volts of electricity.
"It was a sharp pain," said Otis, 24, who was three months pregnant at the time of the September incident. "I kept asking, 'Is it gonna mess up my baby?' "
Tasers have been used locally to end violent standoffs and subdue suicidal people, but a Seattle Post-Intelligencer review found they're also being used routinely in far less threatening situations -- including against juveniles, pregnant women and people who have already been handcuffed.
King County sheriff's deputies have fired Tasers at a teenager who ran after not paying a $1.25 bus fare, a 71-year-old man who was arrested for drunken driving and refused to get into a patrol car, and a partially deaf man who couldn't hear deputies ordering him to stop, reports show.
Some civil rights advocates argue Tasers are being drawn too quickly and in cases in which such extreme force isn't necessary. They worry about potential abuses as more officers rely on the tool to subdue people who they say pose no serious threat to themselves or others.
"We have a problem with the rush to tase and ask questions later," said Sheley Secrest, with the NAACP's Seattle chapter, who has fielded several complaints, including one from Otis. The NAACP wants stricter policies.
Amnesty International released a report today saying police nationwide are abusing the stun guns, and more than 70 deaths in Taser incidents raise questions about whether the devices are safe -- though the company that builds them insists they are.
From January 2003 to June 2004, Seattle police used Tasers in 269 incidents, while King County sheriff's deputies used them in 267 incidents, including 15 cases in which they were displayed as warnings, according to a P-I review of hundreds of use-of-force reports.
Tasers have defused many potentially deadly situations. The painful jolts stopped a man from leaping off Seattle's Aurora Bridge, subdued a man who grabbed an officer's gun and turned it on him, and stopped several knife-wielding people who might have been shot dead, records show.
But King County deputies have shocked at least 10 people who were handcuffed, while Seattle police used the devices on at least three handcuffed people. Such use is discouraged in Phoenix; Las Vegas; Austin, Texas; and other cities.
Nearly a third of those hit were jolted two or more times. King County and Seattle officials say they plan to review multiple shockings.
About three out of four of those shocked by Seattle police were unarmed. Five of six zapped by King County deputies didn't have weapons, though records didn't always note this.
Officials with the King County Sheriff's Office and the Seattle Police Department say Tasers are generally used the way they should be: to control suspects who are aggressive, fight back, actively resist or run away.
But the King County Sheriff's Office has recently tightened its policy after finding some uses "just weren't appropriate" even though they fell within department guidelines, said Chief Sue Rahr, who has been named to replace Sheriff Dave Reichert. The agency also will begin keeping a database of and requiring reports for all Taser incidents.
Rahr declined to comment about specific cases but said deputies are fighting public misperceptions about Tasers.
Pregnant women, the elderly, juveniles and those who are already handcuffed can be violent and threatening,she said. Still, deputies are trained to exhaust all their options "in a case like that because it just doesn't look pretty," she said. etc etc
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