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Joe Blow · 29 October 2015

I understand the desire of some to chat amongst like-minded people about a particular topic without having to interact with those who don't think along similar lines. There has been support for this idea in the past by ASF members who have expressed a desire to be able to have more control over the participation in particular threads due to conflict between members and the disruption to the thread that was created as a result.

Ideally, a website like ASF should cater to its users as much as possible and to provide those users with as many options as possible.

I'm a big advocate of more discussion and participation, and whether that happens in the open forum or in smaller groups in a more private setting seems to me to be largely unimportant. In the end, ASF is an online community, and I think that communities interact in a variety of ways in a variety of settings. As ASF, and online communities in general, evolve I think that it is inevitable that the ways in which people interact with others will become more and varied.

craft · 29 October 2015

Ves said:
Sounds worthwhile, if it is indeed possible. By making it private I assume you would be intending to keep some of the content confidential between group members?

Yep confidential is a factor. Group benefits from group efforts.

skc said:
It would benefit ASF by developing the knowledge of members, who can then make more valuable contributions outside the private group setting. It will develop closer bonds between like-minded members, who are also more likely to interact outside of the group.

Also, members outside the private group have some incentives to post high quality contents so they'd receive an invitation to join Craft's awesome private group. It'd be a badge of honour that every member will be fighting for. Indeed, I can already see a special avatar that is issued only by Craft to a small selection of members whom shall be known as the Fellowship of the Craft.

The part of administrating the group I struggle with – I would like to be involved but not have the right to choose who is invited or ejected. The group I would like to be part of would be one of equals a democracy on who joins or doesn’t. Anything that undermines that wouldn't be for me.

Can a group be administrated by equal vote?

Joe Blow said:
I understand the desire of some to chat amongst like-minded people about a particular topic without having to interact with those who don't think along similar lines. There has been support for this idea in the past by ASF members who have expressed a desire to be able to have more control over the participation in particular threads due to conflict between members and the disruption to the thread that was created as a result.

I don’t know about like minded – but knowing what you say doesn’t matter because everybody seeing your thinking both good and dumb is an independent thinker and has a foundation to interpret what could otherwise easily be misunderstood. That would be nice.

Joe Blow said:
Ideally, a website like ASF should cater to its users as much as possible and to provide those users with as many options as possible.

I'm a big advocate of more discussion and participation, and whether that happens in the open forum or in smaller groups in a more private setting seems to me to be largely unimportant. In the end, ASF is an online community, and I think that communities interact in a variety of ways in a variety of settings. As ASF, and online communities in general, evolve I think that it is inevitable that the ways in which people interact with others will become more and varied.

Very insightful

CanOz · 29 October 2015

Joe Blow said:
I understand the desire of some to chat amongst like-minded people about a particular topic without having to interact with those who don't think along similar lines. There has been support for this idea in the past by ASF members who have expressed a desire to be able to have more control over the participation in particular threads due to conflict between members and the disruption to the thread that was created as a result.

Ideally, a website like ASF should cater to its users as much as possible and to provide those users with as many options as possible.

I'm a big advocate of more discussion and participation, and whether that happens in the open forum or in smaller groups in a more private setting seems to me to be largely unimportant. In the end, ASF is an online community, and I think that communities interact in a variety of ways in a variety of settings. As ASF, and online communities in general, evolve I think that it is inevitable that the ways in which people interact with others will become more and varied.

I think one way around some of this might be that the invite groups could be 'read only'. That way other members can still learn from the more experienced members, but the threads can be kept clean and on topic, etc.

Just an idea.

Modest · 29 October 2015

One of the forums I run has an inner sanctum which is very popular and it's completely driven by democracy - those in the sanctum cast votes once a year for new blood.

I find it keeps the highly knowledgeable members visiting my forum - and because they're visiting the site daily to interact with the people in the private section and every now and then they see something of interest outside of the sanctum and surprise everyone with amazing posts.

I would actually recommend a private sub forum rather then social group cos the social group takes members away from the forum cos of the nonexistent connection between forum and social groups on vbulletin.

sinner · 3 November 2015

Please enable HTTPS. Notice you're using CloudFlare, they support it from their endpoint.

https://www.cloudflare.com/ssl/

Joe Blow · 3 November 2015

sinner said:
Please enable HTTPS. Notice you're using CloudFlare, they support it from their endpoint.

https://www.cloudflare.com/ssl/

It says "SSL: Full", but I'm not sure anything has changed.

VSntchr · 3 November 2015

Modest said:
One of the forums I run has an inner sanctum which is very popular and it's completely driven by democracy - those in the sanctum cast votes once a year for new blood.

Couldn't help but think of this

sinner · 3 November 2015

Joe Blow said:
It says "SSL: Full", but I'm not sure anything has changed.

View attachment 64886

Hmm, the HTTPS connection does work but I see this

https://www.aussiestockforums.com

Welcome to aussiestockforums.com
To change this page, upload a new index.html to your private_html folder

I guess from the CloudFlare page, what's happening is it's trying to make a HTTPS connection to aussiestockforums.com (which isn't setup to receive it), try "Flexible"

Joe Blow · 3 November 2015

sinner said:
I guess from the CloudFlare page, what's happening is it's trying to make a HTTPS connection to aussiestockforums.com (which isn't setup to receive it), try "Flexible"

Done. I hope that is working better.

Gringotts Bank · 3 November 2015

VSntchr said:
Couldn't help but think of this
View attachment 64888

'The Stonecutters', lol. Good episode that.

I was complaining about this segregation earlier but this is the way Australia is going, and it's pointess resisting it. Very strict segregation of cultures and classes, so that there's no mixing at all. Apartheid by a different name. The potential advantage is that it preserves status and wealth within one culture. The bad thing is that it reinforces dividing lines even futher. More fracturing of society.

The rich keep demanding a 'big Australia'...hmm, why is that I wonder, when they go out of their way to avoid newcomers?! The governmnets obey. They do what they're told.

The bleeding heart middle class love to call Australia a multi-cultrual success story, whilst they themselves mix only ever with the same race and class. Take the whole and divide it into parts. Make sure the parts don't communicate.

sinner · 3 November 2015

Joe Blow said:
Done. I hope that is working better.

View attachment 64889

Not quite, get a page now but looks like all the links are pointing to http:// so it's missing the stylesheet and the links all go to the insecure site.

Looks like it might be a little bit more difficult than I thought

In the short term, not a big deal. But ASF is one of the few sites I visit that has not got HTTPS enabled. I do know that enabling HTTPS also increases the Google PageRank

http://googlewebmastercentral.blogspot.com.au/2014/08/https-as-ranking-signal.html

Joe Blow · 3 November 2015

sinner said:
In the short term, not a big deal. But ASF is one of the few sites I visit that has not got HTTPS enabled. I do know that enabling HTTPS also increases the Google PageRank

I've turned it off for now, just to avoid any issues.

ASF will be migrating to a new platform within the next few months, so that might be the best time to do a full HTTPS switch.

MrBurns · 3 November 2015

I'm on a motoring forum which has a private area called carbon, not sure how it works but it's only accessible by invitation and not visible to the public.

Modest · 4 November 2015

It wont let me set my avatar

Joe Blow · 4 November 2015

Modest said:
It wont let me set my avatar

Hi Modest, please try again now and let me know if it works.

Modest · 4 November 2015

Thanks boss

mcgrath111 · 13 July 2018

Hi Joe,

(Please ignore if previously covered in other suggestions)

A suggestion that I think could add value/ traffic to the site is the use of a chat box. Something similar along the lines of
'The age' markets live, yet perhaps more of an instant message function. I feel this could be a great function, particularly Monday-Friday during trading hours.

I suppose this could bring in the pain of moderating what is said etc. However if this was spread out amongst a variety of respected/trusted community members it may drive up some traffic. Also, maybe a chat type function could be shut off on weekends to minimise the amount of content to be moderated (Swearing, Pumping etc.)

Thanks,

MrBurns · 13 July 2018

Might be an idea to put the latest posts on the homepage like Hotcopper with posts about particular stocks first and general chat at the foot. At first glance ASF seems more about the general topic of the stock market rather then specific stocks which might be more interesting and more food for Google.

barney · 13 July 2018

MrBurns said:
Might be an idea to put the latest posts on the homepage like Hotcopper with posts about particular stocks first and general chat at the foot. At first glance ASF seems more about the general topic of the stock market rather then specific stocks which might be more interesting and more food for Google.

Not a bad idea @MrBurns …. more emphasis on the Stocks …..

@Joe Blow ……..

Along the same line of thought …… but totally different …. Would it be possible when for example the Recent Posts page is brought up, that instead of only the last 20 entries, we could minimise the size of the display to fit at least 40 entries (or even more if the display was more of a listing style?)

I appreciate the format of the programme probably determines a lot of that stuff, but would that be possible without too much work, or a logistical nightmare Cheers.

Gringotts Bank · 13 July 2018

At one point ASF was going to have a top threads thread, wasn't it? Joe, that would attract plenty of clicks & revenue.

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