At least you're honest enough to admit this is why Stormers (and the lawyers) are so fervently pursuing the banks, whilst essentially ignoring the role of the author of the whole failed proposition, Cassimatis. The fairness or otherwise of such a strategy seems to be entirely irrelevant.However, Personally I don’t believe all the blame has been directed towards them, merely they are the only ones left standing with the money.
That's a very realistic assessment. I can only slightly imagine the mental and psychological exhaustion some Storm investors will be feeling, even to the point that they no longer have the energy to be part of making any decisions.There appears to be two distinct groups; Firstly, those who have had no choice but to accept the offer, and whilst you cannot say they have been coerced, they are certainly in no position, either financially or mentally to do anything but to accept.
Well, I guess if people are so determined to maintain their stress levels through anger and the need for vengeance (and unable to exact revenge from the actual perpetrator in the form of Cassimatis) a wealthy bank will do just fine.There are some who will pursue the CBA through the courts now if for no other reason to ensure the CBA are dragged through the process irrespective of the outcome. Sooner or later Ralph Norris will realise this and again step in.
Well, I guess if people are so determined to maintain their stress levels through anger and the need for vengeance (and unable to exact revenge from the actual perpetrator in the form of Cassimatis) a wealthy bank will do just fine.
To hell with the shareholders or any actual sense of the real weighting of blame.
I dont know if peoples stress levels and anger is being maintained through a need for vengeance or more the fact that they have lost everything, and many now have no way to fund their future. I'm sure many actually fell a real sense of frustration with not being able to go after manny however lets face it, no Lawyer is going to chase him for them pro bono, with little chance of any gain. This job is left to ASIC to decide whether or not to prosecute. I'm not actually sure what some expect the Stormers to do with respect to Manny other then to publicly shame / blame him etc. Surely this will also "maintain their stress levels through anger and the need for vengeance". As you mention many have little fight left in them let alone trying to fight two battles. I may be wrong but I dont believe civil actions can lead to criminal convictions ?
Can anyone tell me what actually become of the Worrels inquiry. My understanding is that this was funded to the tune of some 500 million by ASIC (public money) and was running alongside the ASIC inquiry. Yet there has been no public report has there or did I miss it ?
Solly
What do you mean by change in mood........ It has been a rollercoaster...... now there is much more anger and resolve.... We won't go down without a fight... that has never changed !!!!:nono::nono:
Solly
What do you mean by change in mood........ It has been a rollercoaster...... now there is much more anger and resolve.... We won't go down without a fight... that has never changed !!!!:nono::nono:
Mash
What exactly do you Stormers want?
Justice?
Money - irrespective of justice?
Or something else?
You tell me.
Think very carefully before you answer - we've seen too many emotional, angry, rude and ill-considered outbursts from you already.
I've asked you fair questions and I've asked them courteously. I expect you to answer in the same manner - otherwise don't bother answering at all.
"Retirees to gain $50,000 in post-Storm collapse reforms"
"Townsville retiree Helen Rubin said the changes would make a "great difference". Ms Rubin, who cannot discuss her personal Storm losses because of legal action, said the recommendations went further than last year's federal parliamentary inquiry into the collapse."
More by Stefanie Balogh in The Courier Mail here;
http://www.couriermail.com.au/business/retirees-to-gain-50000-in-post-storm-collapse-reforms/story-e6freqmx-1225858099042
Amazing, isn't it! Obviously it's idealistic to suggest that this should go without saying, and certainly not require legislation.This from the same article:
"The Rudd Government will also change the law to force financial advisers to always act in the best interests of their clients."
Ummm.. Does this mean advisors don't have to act in the best interest of their clients at the moment?
The article doesn't make clear how 'retirees are going to gain $50.000'."Retirees to gain $50,000 in post-Storm collapse reforms"
"Townsville retiree Helen Rubin said the changes would make a "great difference". Ms Rubin, who cannot discuss her personal Storm losses because of legal action, said the recommendations went further than last year's federal parliamentary inquiry into the collapse."
More by Stefanie Balogh in The Courier Mail here;
"I welcome expanding the availability of low-cost basic advice, which is so important, especially advice through superannuation funds," she said.
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