Storm Financial Group

[Garpal Gumnut]

Don't be silly and get us into your sick little games , you know exactly what it is.

Arachnid-Moolah Spondoolies ,commonly known as the money spider

OK mate, its a moneyspider.

gg

 

[Harleyquin]

GG why didn't you start this thread twelve months earlier and saved all our lives. We can blame you for this can we!!???

and it looks more like an ant than a spider...and a busy little ant he is too....and doing a great job.

 

[Garpal Gumnut]

GG why didn't you start this thread twelve months earlier and saved all our lives. We can blame you for this can we!!???

and it looks more like an ant than a spider...and a busy little ant he is too....and doing a great job.

lol mate.

And I do agree with you, but the great job being done has an elephant in the room, or should I call it a mannyphant in the room.

And more muppets will fall for similar scams in the future, I guarantee.

Your site is derelict in

1. Supporting the Storm model
2. In not reporting adverse reporting of the Cassimatises testimony recently.

And because of this you have through your understandable need to extract recompense from big pockets, ignored the children and grandchildren of the muppets, who will follow another Storm and another Manny, like the Pied Piper of Hamelin.

gg

 

[specialed]

Why is it that you two continue to avoid answering my questions, instead choosing the easy option of attacking SICAG. GG, you stated SICAG are influencing the way in which punishments will be handed out to Manny...can you please elaborate.... And what of Financial advisors contributing to this forum...are they doing it in a paid or unpaid capacity i.e as you feel Big Max was ? If you are prepared to make these statements please justify

 

[Julia]

The apology was sarcastic .What happened to sarcasm

Perhaps, like much on the anonymous internet, it went the way of honesty.

So easy, isn't it, Darkside, to misrepresent who and what we are, and in so doing, take advantage of genuine people.

Imo it's a pretty pathetic, attention seeking individual who feels the need to stoop to such a level.

Such a person, however, should understand that many ASF members are now aware of his opportunistic behaviour.

 

[Solly]

gg,

The new Kurilpa Bridge was opened by the Premier on Sunday 4th October 2009. It's just outside Harry's place. It might be good to have a bit of a jog or brisk walk before proceedings or during recesses to clear and focus the mind. I reckon there will be a lot to absorb and consider. What do you think ?

 

[maccka]

OK mate, its a moneyspider.

gg

Even the average four year old knows that spiders have 8 legs while ants have six. Before you feel the need to say it the two appendages on the ant's head are obviously antennae.

The explanation for the ant and its significance to the MEMBERS of the group has been given many times on this forum.

GG - stop stirring please.

Cheers
Maccka

 

[Garpal Gumnut]

Why is it that you two continue to avoid answering my questions, instead choosing the easy option of attacking SICAG. GG, you stated SICAG are influencing the way in which punishments will be handed out to Manny...can you please elaborate.... And what of Financial advisors contributing to this forum...are they doing it in a paid or unpaid capacity i.e as you feel Big Max was ? If you are prepared to make these statements please justify

lol mate.

And I do agree with you, but the great job being done has an elephant in the room, or should I call it a mannyphant in the room.

And more muppets will fall for similar scams in the future, I guarantee.

Your site is derelict in

1. Supporting the Storm model
2. In not reporting adverse reporting of the Cassimatises testimony recently.

And because of this you have through your understandable need to extract recompense from big pockets, ignored the children and grandchildren of the muppets, who will follow another Storm and another Manny, like the Pied Piper of Hamelin.

gg

Perhaps, like much on the anonymous internet, it went the way of honesty.

So easy, isn't it, Darkside, to misrepresent who and what we are, and in so doing, take advantage of genuine people.

Imo it's a pretty pathetic, attention seeking individual who feels the need to stoop to such a level.

Such a person, however, should understand that many ASF members are now aware of his opportunistic behaviour.

Read the posts mate.

Read the posts.

All 3925 0f them from when I became concerned about Storm , 2 months before it went **** up.

Then post mate.

Where ignorance is bliss tis folly to be wise.

gg

 

[specialed]

Specialed

Please re read my post , mainly the quoted part from big max,

Originally Posted by Big Max
Hey Darkside, when you're proven to be wrong, it's polite to apologise and important that you correct the record. I'll say it again . . . not only am I not a former Storm employee, I am not a former Storm client! I am a paid consultant to SICAG. Do the right thing.

….and where in this quote does he say his contributions to this forum are on behalf of, or as an employee of SICAG...All I read is someone attempting to correct yet another one of the inaccuracies placed on this forum for nothing other than malicious intent…I wait for the next chapter in conspiracy 911...the half truths placed hear are priceless. Like all conspiracies, they don’t bear scrutiny, the authors will attack those who question their so-called facts rather then offer proof of their claims….and in time those making the ridiculous claims get seen for what they are, and their true motives are revealed. In the meantime we all get a good laugh out of the conspiracy theory…

 

[Solly]

Even the average four year old knows that spiders have 8 legs while ants have six. Before you feel the need to say it the two appendages on the ant's head are obviously antennae.

The explanation for the ant and its significance to the MEMBERS of the group has been given many times on this forum.

GG - stop stirring please.

Cheers
Maccka

Hey Maccka

Here's one for gg, but I'm sure he wont use it .....:

 

[specialed]

Just hang in there , the end is in sight. Scattini and the lawyers have done a good deal with CBA and I expect BOQ to come to the party.

Don't wait however for the Cassimatises to get their "just deserts" as described above.

Through a number of factors, mostly lack of street smarts and blind allegiance to a failed model, SICAG have set a scenario for them to get off with very little penalty, possibly a suspended sentence or a few months in a low security facility.

My reasons for saying this are.

1. SICAG is based in Redcliffe or the Sunshine Coast with the fewest investors affected, rather than in Townsville where the most information about the scam is available, and the most victims live.

2. The Committee is tainted by the presence of a former Storm executive and a former Storm Advisers relative. This is a conflict of interest and has governance implications.

3. SICAG consistently state that members have connections with the Cassimatises but that this in no way affects their decisions or web page. Why then have no adverse public appearance by Julie or Manny in inquiries and court not been reported by SICAG.

4. The SICAG website consistently advises victims to avoid advisers who charge by the hour "unlike Storm". The charge by the hour model is the preferred model of interaction between client and adviser, promoted by all experts in the area.

gg

I wonder what I will see first....an answer by GG as to how SICAG have set a scenario for the Cassimatises to get off lightly as proclaimed OR Manny in Jail....I think unfortunately I may be waiting a LONG time for either...

 

[Garpal Gumnut]

….and where in this quote does he say his contributions to this forum are on behalf of, or as an employee of SICAG...All I read is someone attempting to correct yet another one of the inaccuracies placed on this forum for nothing other than malicious intent…I wait for the next chapter in conspiracy 911...the half truths placed hear are priceless. Like all conspiracies, they don’t bear scrutiny, the authors will attack those who question their so-called facts rather then offer proof of their claims….and in time those making the ridiculous claims get seen for what they are, and their true motives are revealed. In the meantime we all get a good laugh out of the conspiracy theory…

specialed , you are stirring darkside and being picky. The name specialed signifies your intent IMO , you have benn specialed to annoy genuine posters who are trying to find a way through this for Storm victims.

If you feel so strongly why don't you post on sicag, and leave genuine posters like darkside alone.

gg

 

[Soft Dough]

Not too sure of this, but I'm sure that if I am wrong, that you, gg, will be the best person to put me right. Spiders 'stalk' their prey. Ants just 'run around madly' looking for anything they can prey on.

I think they are ants, and are being used in a context fitting to SICAG's approach :

Ants will also attack my legs if my children jump on the nest next to me, doesn't mean that they are going after the little tyrants who were actually responsible for the damage.

I have to say too, that if it were not for the six guys who are the SICAG committee then we storm clients would just have 'disappeared' way back in January of this year.

The lawyers smelt the $100 bills from a thousand miles away, they were always going to "come to the rescue"

SICAG, although probably of benefit, have not been necessary to the cause.

 

[Harleyquin]

GG why is it necessary for the SICAG site to criticise the storm model or to berate the Cassimatis'.

The storm model and the Cassimatis' are being dealt with in the courts.

The SICAG site was set up to help storm clients to help each other and once again - it's working brilliantly.

 

[Mindstorm]

The lawyers smelt the $100 bills from a thousand miles away, they were always going to "come to the rescue"

Apologies in advance if I am misreading your statement, but do you mean 'smelt' as in "use a very high temperature to melt down before moulding", or 'smelled' as in the use of the nasal ability to 'smell an odour'?

It's just that I thought that $any bill, be it $5, $10, $20, $50, $100 bill would be printed rather than moulded.

SICAG, although probably of benefit, have not been necessary to the cause.

I have to ask here, and will probably regret it...... but no matter, in for a penny in for a pound, are you a SICAG member? If you are, do you think that you have been 'shortchanged' by the SICAG committee in some way?

If you are not a SICAG member, what right do you believe you have to decide whether SICAG has been of any probable benefit, whether it was necessary to the cause or otherwise?

I apologise if I cause any offence, that is not my intention.

 

[Soft Dough]

Apologies in advance if I am misreading your statement, but do you mean 'smelt' as in "use a very high temperature to melt down before moulding", or 'smelled' as in the use of the nasal ability to 'smell an odour'?

It's just that I thought that $any bill, be it $5, $10, $20, $50, $100 bill would be printed rather than moulded.

I have to ask here, and will probably regret it...... but no matter, in for a penny in for a pound, are you a SICAG member? If you are, do you think that you have been 'shortchanged' by the SICAG committee in some way?

If you are not a SICAG member, what right do you believe you have to decide whether SICAG has been of any probable benefit, whether it was necessary to the cause or otherwise?

I apologise if I cause any offence, that is not my intention.

1. No I meant smelt as in olfactory, perhaps if I use it again it may help you : "the retort smelt of disregard of the english language "

2. No I am not a member of SICAG. I am not a member of many instutions, but have formed reasonable opinions of them, just as I guess you have probably done yourself.

Would you prefer me to request a moderator to edit my post to read : SICAG, although probably of no benefit, have not been necessary to the cause? As you can see my post actually stated that I believe that SICAG has probably assisted clients, however without SICAG they still would have recieved assistance.

I hope you are not trying to suggest that without SICAG there would have been no compensation for storm victims, because that is just insulting to anyone with any understanding of how lawyers work.

I guess SICAG is directing Slater in Gordon in all its current class actions as well as it has helped S&G in directing all previous class actions?

 

[bunyip]

You are obviously a very clever man gg. I, on the other hand, am and have been a very stupid one.

Stupid or not? I have never tried to gain 'kudos' or 'points' by deriding another person, their beliefs, or their actions.

Really?
I seem to recall that you made a rather forceful and aggressive effort to deride me in Post No. 3200 on Page 160, because I expressed my views about the foolishness of a small minority of Stormers who went to Storm despite having already accumulated substantial wealth that had set them up for life.

Not that I hold any grudge against you for that.....you were emotional and upset and probably would have lashed out at someone else if you hadn't lashed out at me.

While I'm on the subject of derision and lashing out.......I suggest you stop deriding and lashing out at yourself for the mistakes you made. There's nothing to be gained by referring to yourself as a 'pleb' or 'a very stupid man'. Your best shot at getting over this is to accept that you made an error of judgement, just like most people make errors of judgement at different times in their lives.
Realise that although you mistakes took away your money, they didn't take away your potential.
Milk that potential for all it's worth. Be thankful that you still have twenty or so years of work left in you before retirement. Play your cards right, and you can do very well in that 20 years. You may yet get that comfortable retirement you've dreamed of.

As for GG, I think you need to put his SICAG-related remarks in perspective.
Sure he's been critical of them for their endorsement of the Storm fees model, for the fact that they avoid laying any blame on Storm, and for the conflict of interest in having a committee with a number of ex Storm advisers, and a relative of an ex Storm adviser. Those are completely fair and reasonable criticisms in my opinion.
To be fair to Garpal, he's also acknowledged the good work that SICAG has done in bringing the CBA to the negotiating table.

Any discussion on GG's attitude towards SICAG should at least be balanced by mentioning that he's spoken for them as well as against them.

 

[Solly]

"NSW link to Storm Financial fiasco"

"THE Australia and New Zealand banking group disciplined a lender at its Nambour branch about two years ago after an internal investigation found the staff member was not following procedures in dealings with Storm Financial."

More by Tony Raggatt in the Townsville Bulletin;

http://www.townsvillebulletin.com.au/article/2009/10/16/86911_news.html

 

[Solly]

"Failed Storm owners 'naive'"

The co-founders of failed advisory firm Storm Financial, Emmanuel and Julie Cassimatis, were considered a risk by the financial adviser's accountants because they were naive, entrepreneurial and did not listen to advice.


"Storm owners took $2m 'dividend' as company sank"

"Employees of the failed financial adviser have been giving damaging testimony in court."

Read more by Michelle Singer in The Australian Financial Review of October 17 2009.

 

[Garpal Gumnut]

gg,

The new Kurilpa Bridge was opened by the Premier on Sunday 4th October 2009. It's just outside Harry's place. It might be good to have a bit of a jog or brisk walk before proceedings or during recesses to clear and focus the mind. I reckon there will be a lot to absorb and consider. What do you think ?

Great pics mate.
A brisk walk would be fine.
gg