skc
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Trade #5
Long 11,764 APN @ $0.85. Dividend 3.5c, 100% franked. Gross = 5.0c (5.88%)
Short 625 NWS @ $16.02
Trade #3
Long 1587 IFL @ $6.30. Dividend 22c, 100% franked. Gross = 31.43c (4.99%)
Short 2532 PTm @ $3.95.
Trade #4
Long 4340 TTS @ $2.31. Dividend 11c, 100% franked. Gross = 15.71c (6.8%)
Short 1200 CWN @ $8.31.
Trade #5
Long 11,764 @ $0.85. Dividend 3.5c, 100% franked. Gross = 5.0c (5.88%)
Short 625 NWS @ $16.02
Capital used = $60k
Trade #6
Long 3333 IAG @ $3. Dividend 7c, 100% franked. Gross = 10c (3.33%)
Short 1236 SUN @ $8.09.
Capital used = $80k
Trade #4
Long 4340 TTS @ $2.31. Dividend 11c, 100% franked. Gross = 15.71c (6.8%)
Short 1200 CWN @ $8.31.
P&L Summary
Trade #3 +$213.21. FC = $149.6
Trade #4 +$204.60. FC = $204.6
Trade #5 +176.5. FC = $176.5
Trade #6 +228.03. FC = $99.99
Total Franking credits collected so far $759.25.
Total P&L = $1005.
P&L Summary
Trade #3 +$213.21. FC = $149.6
Trade #4 +$64.9. FC = $204.6
Trade #5 +347.29. FC = $176.5
Trade #6 +228.03. FC = $99.99
Total Franking credits collected so far $759.25.
Total P&L (All 6 trades) = $1005.
SKC
Where did you buy your calculator?
I wouldn’t mind buying one myself
Oops.. I went cross-eyed on Excel and read the wrong column.
Lol. The magic calculator which turns all your trade into profits is available at Diagon Alley.
Or am I missing something?
You sure you are not at least still using a 'RM' calculator.
Trade 3 as an example
Loss on Long $126.96 [1587*(6.22-6.30]
Loss on Short $126.60 [2532*(8.31-8.40)
Gain on Div $349.14 [1587*.22]
Total Gain $95.58 less commissions. (Franking Credits $149.63)
Or am I missing something?
The P&L includes franking credits.
So $95.58 + $149.63 - $32 (commission) = $213.2
Total P&L = $1005, of which $759 is franking credits.
I did say margins are very thin.
This strategy will probably show better reward/risk on down days. At the moment all the hedges are simply costing me money.
Thanks for clarifying – as you will see above the penny dropped 1 minute before your post.
How much of the capital do you actually need to deploy to fund it?
I’m guessing your using IB. Do you need to fully fund the short positions? Do they net off transaction within T+3? Are they paying you any interest on the shorts?
The margin would be enhanced if the bulk of the capital backing the strategy stays in your own bank account attracting interest.
How many people do I know that haven’t utilised their $5000 franking exemption? Is the exemption applicable to kids?
As to kids and franking credits - best check with your accountant. I don't think the tax rules are as generous.
I think you have inspired me.
Fund the account, stand ready to insure against the tail risk, and supervise the trades. This looks like a good way to get the kids learning, with a good risk weighted reward outcome and a short enough duration to keep their attention.
Have to do some research to see how the unearned income rules for minors mess with the outcome and if the 45day exemption applies to minors.
Thanks
do you do this full time? or is it more of a mechanical filter to initiate trades?
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