Should Tony Abbott Be Forced To Resign?

[Scuba]

The weapons were planes and the terrorists were inside them.

Oh, and they made a pact over a few Birrels that no-one else was aware of? More diversion from another one of the reasons given for invasion...

 

[josh_in_a_box]

OT fact of the day: i went to the same school as Tony Abbott! many many years later thou.

forced to resign for swearing? your dreaming.
should politicans resign if they drink alcohol too?

 

[2020hindsight]

Clarke and Dawe: divine guidance

spiritual guidance on matters of this importance, and this sensitivity...
independence of thought for instance - how to eliminate that !!

 

[Rafa]

i voted no... he was having a real bad day... but having said that... much rather he get voted out

abott, downer, nelson, pyne, mcfarlane, hockey and Andrews signify everything wrong with the present govt.... simply incompetent... but looking at their attitude, you wouldn't know it.

it no wonder howard is still PM... their depth is amazingly shallow considering they are the incumbent... (you'd expect that with the opposition).

I can see why turnbull thinks he has a great chance of taking the leadership... once you go past howard and costello (and costello is not popular with the voters)... whose left?

 

[Brujo]

Can anyone seriously tell me they are willing to put up with Kath Day-Gillard and Sneering Swan for 3 years??? Just keeping them off TV screens should be plenty of incentive to keep Labor out.

 

[Scuba]

Can anyone seriously tell me they are willing to put up with Kath Day-Gillard and Sneering Swan for 3 years??? Just keeping them off TV screens should be plenty of incentive to keep Labor out.

More coalition name calling, fright inducement....
11 years is far too long, past the use-by date. Next please, just not the Abbot and Costello show, we don't want Australia to become more of a laughing stock than it is with the current "cream of the crop" the likes of Nelson. Did you watch 4 corners last night?

 

[2020hindsight]

Bernie Banton also scored over Hockey
- who also apologised.

Its just that

a) Bernie Banton was Aussie of the year
and
b) these comments by Abbott and Hockey etc (for which they have been forced to apologise) are - on first impression anyway - carefully thought out responses eg
"the man is note pure of heart" (Abbott)
"unions are not relevant" (Hockey)
etc .

They are not impulsive snipes under media duress....

http://castlehill.yourguide.com.au/...scores-point-as-hockey-backs-off/1073438.html
Banton scores point as Hockey backs off
By Col Allison
.....Meanwhile, Andrew West, writing in the SMH reported that as West Pennant Hills resident Bernie Banton was being wheeled into Concord Hospital last week to have his lungs drained, the mesothelioma sufferer who led the fight for compensation for victims of the James Hardie asbestos scandal had scathing words for the federal Workplace Relations Minister, Joe Hockey.

"What a grub," he said, after Mr Hockey said trade unions were irrelevant. "Where was Hockey during the James Hardie campaign? We didn't see him for dust."

Mr Banton said that without the support of unions - and especially the former ACTU secretary Greg Combet - up to 56,000 victims would not be entitled to the $1.4 billion in compensation from the corporation.

"It was their campaigning and negotiating skills that clinched that deal," he said.

Later, Mr Hockey conceded that Mr Banton had a point. "When unions go into bat for people like Bernie Banton they are relevant," he said.

 

[arminius]

how long have we had this government?

20 odd days before an election they realise that 'hey, we dont have enough doctors or nurses! we better train some!'

give me a effin break. these blokes are incompetent.

all of the rubbish the libs put out there, scaremongering etc, is to stir debate in that area so the electorate (thats us) dont sit back and reflect on things a bit.

after everything that has happened, some of us cant get passed 17% rates in the height of a global recession.

their tactic has worked a treat.

 

[moXJO]

how long have we had this government?

20 odd days before an election they realise that 'hey, we dont have enough doctors or nurses! we better train some!'

give me a effin break. these blokes are incompetent.

all of the rubbish the libs put out there, scaremongering etc, is to stir debate in that area so the electorate (thats us) dont sit back and reflect on things a bit.

after everything that has happened, some of us cant get passed 17% rates in the height of a global recession.

their tactic has worked a treat.

Labor looking over libs shoulder and copying all their policies is the real worry. For small business it’s the unfair dismissal laws and unions, the list goes on. Its real concerns for most not your simplified version. I like Rudd but there’s not much substance in their policies atm they keep changing to what the libs were suggesting months ago (think land release).

As for Tony Abbott looked liked the mother of all bad days.

 

[Scuba]

Labor looking over libs shoulder and copying all their policies is the real worry. For small business it’s the unfair dismissal laws and unions, the list goes on. Its real concerns for most not your simplified version. I like Rudd but there’s not much substance in their policies atm they keep changing to what the libs were suggesting months ago (think land release).

As for Tony Abbott looked liked the mother of all bad days.

Like the defence policy, climate change, Kyoto, I.R., out of pocket schooling rebates?
It is a bit Vanilla, but the coalition's hip pocket buy the voter tactics may have worked before so why remove %90 of the difference in the tax area? Then voting will be based on other issues, not just the extra money voters who "have never been better off" are really in need of...

 

[greggy]

You can also view a video of the slur via the link above.

Well, the question is simple. Should Tony Abbott be forced to resign as minister for Health and Ageing, if the Coalition do or do not win office again?

On what has been a disastrous day for him, albeit self inflicted, Abbott managed to cap it off with a totally inappropriate and abusive comment towards his counterpart.

This follows recent admissions, and evidence of his total incompetence as a minister. These include admitting that federal funding of the health system to be decreasing in comparison to the states over the last 11 years. More recently, the fiasco with the Tasmanian hospital takeover; slanderous remarks towards Bernie Banton, the asbestosis campaigner. And of course, nearly not turning up to the Health debate.

This especially, demonstrates the total contempt with which Abbott treats the voting public, and of course the seriousness (or lack thereof) in which he regards his job. All from a good Christian man... apparently.

So is it time for him to go?

I'd say with the total inappropriateness of his actions, behaviour of the lowest order, especially as a minister, plus his attitude towards his role, the answer should be a resounding yes.

Tony Abbott has definitely had a few bad days. He constantly refers to his strong religious faith, but looks to have clearly lost the plot. Offensive remarks and being late to a debate doesn't go down well in the eyes of voters. If Howard somehow wins the election, I would remove him as the Health Minister and let someone else have a go at fixing the problems within his portfolio.

 

[Prospector]

What for? Actually, he seems like one of the most normal people in politics. Not that that means anything.

Let me say I admire Mr Banton and feel desperate for his, and other asbestosis sufferers' plight.

I understood that Mr Banton did not have an appointment with Abbott; his office found out about him coming in on the Friday before. Was it reasonable to expect Abbott to change other appointments in what must be his busiest period to accommodate someone who was arriving without one? And the media was there ready and waiting knowing there wasn't a confirmed appointment. OK, Abbott went too far with his accusations, but the timing was rather coincidental to the campaign.

As for being late for the debate, well, big deal, who cares. Maybe the media just get antsy when others dont give them the number one priority.

 

[Brujo]

More coalition name calling, fright inducement....
11 years is far too long, past the use-by date. Next please, just not the Abbot and Costello show, we don't want Australia to become more of a laughing stock than it is with the current "cream of the crop" the likes of Nelson. Did you watch 4 corners last night?

Laughing stock to who?

The scare campaign is well-warranted. Can you honestly tell me having someone like Wayne Swan in charge of the economy is not scary? The guy's solution to rising grocery prices is to advise people to "shop around" and "look for the specials". And Gillard is a mirror-image to Rudd.....so wrapped up in their own pious-ness and good-ness that nothing solid comes out of their mouths but utter crap.

And someone like Bill Shorten getting into Parliament? Took full advantage of two guys trapped in a dreadful situation, and people don't see this guy for the cheap opportunist that he is?

Rudd, the liar, the finger pointer, the champion of "working families". Looking for his $4m holiday house on the Gold Coast. How would he know what "working families" are up against?

God help us.

These guys don't have any answers. We'll stumble along okay for a few months until the first international or financial crisis, but after that?

Jesus, we're made to get licences to drive a car or own a dog but any dill over 18 has to vote.....(tongue in cheek!).........

 

[adobee]

After watching Rudds recent public gaff (and he is supposed to be our next PM), it seems interesting you focus on something like this.

Rudd without a scripted cheat sheet is lost and he has publicly demonstrated this. A leader he is not.

I DONT KNOW WHAT GAFF YOUR REFERRING TO EITHER ??



However I dont think swearing etc at the opposition party constitutes being a sackable offence.. maybe if it was to another president or the like ..

I think there is a huge chance of an Abott / Turnbull to be the next replacements for Howard / Costello ..

 

[chops_a_must]

Get real Chops !!!!

Well... I got in before Tony Jones suggested it last night.

 

[Julia]

I think there is a huge chance of an Abott / Turnbull to be the next replacements for Howard / Costello ..

Oh God, no.

 

[Brujo]

Well... I got in before Tony Jones suggested it last night.

Tony Jones is normally about the most biased interviewer around......he was actually half-moderate last night.

Wait for him next campaign to run for a spot with Labor.

There is one guy who is smug in the knowledge that he can ask all the questions in the world without having to answer any himself.

 

[nioka]

Jesus, we're made to get licences to drive a car or own a dog but any dill over 18 has to vote.....(tongue in cheek!).........

People living in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. We are all a dill in someone elses eyes.

 

[weird]

He more than likely did call his wife and say that he felt really hung-over, vaguely recalled being in a strip club and went off to church directly after the call and said 25 Hail Marys!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Rudd

"Although raised a Catholic, Rudd began attending Anglican services in the 1980s with his wife.[4] Like John Howard, Rudd has addressed congregations of the Hillsong Church."

Don't think Rudd said any hail marys ... from this report he is more influenced by his wife's beliefs ...

 

[weird]

As expected this thread turned abit political ...